Progressives were the counter weight to MAGA, and the DNC destroyed it.

[Mister Terrific]

You have to be more than socially progressive. You have to offer something economically, healthcare, electorial material changes as well. Just standing up for minorities rhetorically isn't enough.

ACA, lowering drug prices, home owner credit, more minority judges confirmed than any administration ever. Student loan forgiveness in the thousands. Not to mention the Supreme Court

Nah. Latinos didnt break for Trump because Kamala wasn’t leftist enough.


This country is Right Wing. They want lower taxes (no matter what that means) and deportation. After that punish women for abortion and crack down on LGBT people.


That’s it.


Ask yourself who would Hungary or Belorussia elect? That’s your answer. That’s who we are culturally now. Stop complicating it.


Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro are the most popular celebs amongst voting males. You think we can push free healthcare in this environment?

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Some of the talking heads are blaming thr progressives for this lost.

Same as 2016. No lessons were learned
Moderates snuffed out progressives and ran the same centrist playbook three election cycles in a row. Biden barely won in 2020 and his win was probably contributed to Trump mishandling COVID.

The progressives that won elections and got people excited ran on economic issues. Moderates used social issues and treated them as if the are embracing progressivism to the masses. They are quiet on the economic stuff because they don't want another progressive movement that can make them lose their positions

 

[AnonymityX1000]

ACA, lowering drug prices, home owner credit, more minority judges confirmed than any administration ever. Student loan forgiveness in the thousands. Not to mention the Supreme Court

Nah. Latinos didnt break for Trump because Kamala wasn’t leftist enough.


This country is Right Wing. They want lower taxes (no matter what that means) and deportation. After that punish women for abortion and crack down on LGBT people.


That’s it.


Ask yourself who would Hungary or Belorussia elect? That’s your answer. That’s who we are culturally now. Stop complicating it.


Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro are the most popular celebs amongst voting males. You think we can push free healthcare in this environment?

No public option so the ACA is just an insurance give away.
Student loan forgiveness only for those who still have dept of education loans and none for anyone who consolidated or have bank loans.
They showed they can fumble the SC even in power (replacing Scalia).

All the people sitting on the sidelines want something from the government. You can't with a straight face say free healthcare is a pipe dream when even 2nd world nations have it.
You see a lot of ballot measures that lean progressive passed. So no we aren't completely right wing.
Maybe if pod save America pushed for more Progressive policy they could be more popular. And if Sam Seder didn't shut on the Dems only to tell you you have to vote for them he would be more mainstream.
You can't be Republican light and expect to beat actual Republicans.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Same as 2016. No lessons were learned
Moderates snuffed out progressives and ran the same centrist playbook three election cycles in a row. Biden barely won in 2020 and his win was probably contributed to Trump mishandling COVID.

The progressives that won elections and got people excited ran on economic issues. Moderates used social issues and treated them as if the are embracing progressivism to the masses. They are quiet on the economic stuff because they don't want another progressive movement that can make them lose their positions

Dems take a lot of corporate cash. Corporations don't want the government giving away free stuff they want to charge us for it.

 

[jilla82]

Policy wise you may be correct OP...
but progressives lost the election for Democrats on a cultural level

Dems have a complex problem

 

[AnonymityX1000]

The problem with progressives is that they want the world in one fell swoop. That’s not how US politics work. Like The Rolling Stones said, you can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometime, you might find you get what you need. They’re accelerationists and now they and all of us will get NOTHING.

They don't, they just want it on the platform and real effort shown to get it. If they did that they would keep support.
Dems refuse to even run on giving Americans free healthcare. Fukkin' Russia has free healthcare. It's a fukkin' travesty. Run on it and be ten toes down on it like Rs are for killing abortion rights. They are not ten toes down on any issue. Everything is negotiable, they need conviction on something.

 

[Seoul Gleou]

Policy wise you may be correct OP...
but progressives lost the election for Democrats on a cultural level

Dems have a complex problem

clearly people don't give a shyt about culture and identity politics

tell people you'll give them affordable healthcare, housing, and a safer country and they'll vote for you

no one gives a fukk about trans rights and all the shyt democrats were fear mongering on

 

[L@CaT]

Democrats were fukin retarded for thinking Kamala had even the slightest chance. They couldn't even get white ass Hillary and her legacy politics a victory but had the audacity to think they could win with Kamala who was already unpopular.

Democrats were really deaf, dumb, and blind when it came to the most important issues the American people cared about which was the Economy, Illegal Immigration and Trans issue. Two out of the three they basically ignored because their base includes a lot of these people.

Democrats always knew Kamala was a terrible candidate but the Symbol of Kamala becoming not only the first Woman President but also the first Woman President of Color was too powerful a symbol for them to ignore.

They should have been aware Americans don't give a fukk about None of that

 

[Marc Spector]

Dems take a lot of corporate cash. Corporations don't want the government giving away free stuff they want to charge us for it.

the answer is somewhere in the middle. If Dems indeed pushed for Quality of Life initiatives, they would mobilize some couch sitters.

However, @Mister Terrific is spot on. the right wing of America have radicalized and now have a second wind of Gen Z'ers who have been poison pilled by ALt Right New Media into hating the federal govt and leftist initiatives that would uplift people. What used to be only boomers is now 24 year old cacs who work at AutoZone and dont see why "DayURR TAx DOlLARRS" should go to paying for some woman's "liberal arts degree".

 

[tremonthustler1]

The lines between liberal and progressive have been distorted so much, the average person doesn’t know the difference.

Of course after they nuked the movement, they tried to half heartedly co-op it, to get supporters, but again.. it was mostly progressives protesting Israel, and the party shytted on them. A lot of Democrats turned on Talib. They let Bush and Bowman lose their seats. Helped even.

Bowman lost his seat because he's a goofy in addition to Israel being such a sticking point in Westchester.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

the answer is somewhere in the middle. If Dems indeed pushed for Quality of Life initiatives, they would mobilize some couch sitters.

However, @Mister Terrific is spot on. the right wing of America have radicalized and now have a second wind of Gen Z'ers who have been poison pilled by ALt Right New Media into hating the federal govt and leftist initiatives that would uplift people. What used to be only boomers is now 24 year old cacs who work at AutoZone and dont see why "DayURR TAx DOlLARRS" should go to paying for some woman's "liberal arts degree".

That's why they needed to give them something to. Higher minimum wage, free healthcare. If they got free shyt to they wouldn't complain. Dems refused now they are radicalized. Whoops.

 

[jilla82]

clearly people don't give a shyt about culture and identity politics

tell people you'll give them affordable healthcare, housing, and a safer country and they'll vote for you

no one gives a fukk about trans rights and all the shyt democrats were fear mongering on

they def care about culture and identity politics...
not sure how you can TALK to people and believe different

how have progressives helped with the bolded?

especially seeing how most people dont believe gov is the answer for these issues...
theres a clear argument for saying gov intervention has made them worse

healthcare cost have increased for the middle class and higher...
people dont feel safe
housing prices have gone up

all under Obama/Biden

 

[tremonthustler1]

That's why they needed to give them something to. Higher minimum wage, free healthcare. If they got free shyt to they wouldn't complain. Dems refused now they are radicalized. Whoops.

and the shyt they swore they could deliver they claimed the house and senate were blocking them (Student loans), so if you can't deliver on that stuff, yet a Republican can carry out whatever, that looks like an appealing avenue to get something done.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

and the shyt they swore they could deliver they claimed the house and senate were blocking them (Student loans), so if you can't deliver on that stuff, yet a Republican can carry out whatever, that looks like an appealing avenue to get something done.

Georgia gave them 50% of the senate in 2016. Biden promised he would wipe out student loan debt. Never happened. Voting rights act, never passed.

 

[Millan]

That's why they needed to give them something to. Higher minimum wage, free healthcare. If they got free shyt to they wouldn't complain. Dems refused now they are radicalized. Whoops.

Hate to break it to you, but nothing is free in life.