Pressure the gov. of the Dominican Republic to stop its planned "cleaning" of 250k black Dominicans

[OfTheCross]

How many people have been deported so far? Any vids of the mass deportations?

Estimates are over 12,000 ppl have left on their own accord.

The DR hasn't done any mass deportations, but I'm sure they've sent a few hundred people as well.

 

[bouncy]

shyt is fukked up!

 

[Arianne Martell]

Juxtaposition

shyt is fukked up!

I hope you are ALL equally outraged

DHS Secretary: Detention of Immigrant Families, Children Should End
by Suzanne Gamboa

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said Wednesday that detention of immigrant families, once they have established eligibility for asylum, should end.

In an announcement that came after several Democrats visited family detention centers in Texas, Johnson said long-term detention of families with legitimate asylum claims is an inefficient use of resources.

"I have reached the conclusion that we must make substantial changes in our detention practices with respect to families with children," Johnson said in a statement. "In short, once a family has established eligibility for asylum or other relief under our laws, long-term detention is an inefficient use of our resources and should be discontinued."

The administration has been under heavy criticism for detaining families, mostly mothers and children, that fled Central America and Mexico amid violence in those countries and arrived by the tens of thousands on the U.S. border last summer.

The administration began detaining the families in an effort to curb the numerous arrivals that had overwhelmed Border Patrol facilities, forced openings of emergency shelters and led President Barack Obama to declare the arrivals a humanitarian situation.


Several Democratic House members had visited the family detention facilities in Texas on Monday and Tuesday and held a news conference Wednesday on Capitol Hill. House and Senate Democrats also had signed a letter calling for an end to the detentions and criticizing the administration the use of detention for the families.

The detention of families has emerged as an issue in the 2016 presidential campaign. All three Democratic candidates have criticized the administration's practice of detaining families and children.

Legal battles over longstanding court orders on conditions for housing children, as well as on the administration's use of detention to deter other immigrants from attempting to come to the U.S. also have been ongoing and likely played a role in Wednesday's announcement.

A plan drafted by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Director Sarah Saldaña and approved by Johnson calls for granting release on bond to families that have shown they have a reasonable fear of persecution in their home countries. Also ICE plans to set realistic bond amounts "taking into account ability to pay," risk of flight and public safety, Johnson said.

Johnson said he also has directed U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service to conduct timely interviews of immigrants on their fears of persecution, which would cut down on detention time. ongoing Immigrants will be told their rights and responsibilities and filled in about hearing schedules.


Despite those changes, Johnson said family detention centers will continue to be used for families that without a legitimate asylum claim or other legal relief to remain in the U.S.


"Our larger hope is that Central American families will heed our repeated calls to find a safet and lawful path for the migration of children to the United States ... I have personally seen enough to know that the path of illegal migration from Central America to our southern border is a dangerous path and it is not for children," Johnson said.

 

[NATU]

This bytch is a big fat liar and the poor people she interviewed were probably paid to lie to the cameras. The people she interviewed don't even speak spanish.. They speak with a HORRIBLE accent and she makes them say that they were born in DR. Yeah fukking right, like a person born and raised for 20 years in DR is gonna speak with a really bad accent.

Of course you guys are going to believe this bullshyt because it's convenient for you. You prefer to believe these lies.

 

[bouncy]

@Arianne Martell I don't care who says what, when you have people being rounded up, or told they have to leave because of some bullshyt law, even though they have birth certificates proving they were born in D.R., I think it's wrong. These people know nothing but D.R., yet because of some bullshyt law, they are now stateless. I know you could care less, but I'm sad to write, some of those people will be sold into slavery.

At the very least D.R. could have helped the people who were born there, to find some type of way to prevent them from being stateless. Once you have no nation to cling to, foul people can do Anything to you. That is what I'm mad about. It has nothing to do with hating people because they are Dominican or Hatian, its because right is right, and wrong, is wrong!

 

[NATU]

Ohh another huge lie she said in that video.. Dominican Republic hasn't deported 1 human being yet.. Deportations have not started. The people who are returning to Haiti are doing it voluntarily and the DR is offering free transportation without criminal records back to their come country.. Around 13 to 14 thousand immigrants have already returned to their country voluntarily.

 

[bouncy]

This bytch is a big fat liar and the poor people she interviewed were probably paid to lie to the cameras. The people she interviewed don't even speak spanish.. They speak with a HORRIBLE accent and she makes them say that they were born in DR. Yeah fukking right, like a person born and raised for 20 years in DR is gonna speak with a really bad accent.

Of course you guys are going to believe this bullshyt because it's convenient for you. You prefer to believe these lies.

Like Dominicans who live in the U.S. with a HORRIBLE accent?

Chances are if you are around people who are just like you, you will sound like them. I know latins, and west Indians, who were born, and raised here, but because they just hang around other latins, or west Indians, they still have the accents of the families country.

You are an idiot, because some of the stuff you write is straight asinine. I can't believe I gave you some type of respect.

 

[606onit]

This bytch is a big fat liar and the poor people she interviewed were probably paid to lie to the cameras. The people she interviewed don't even speak spanish.. They speak with a HORRIBLE accent and she makes them say that they were born in DR. Yeah fukking right, like a person born and raised for 20 years in DR is gonna speak with a really bad accent.

Of course you guys are going to believe this bullshyt because it's convenient for you. You prefer to believe these lies.

I will say that their Spanish was deplorable but they were probably born on the OUTSKIRTS of DR. Just like anyone raised in the backwoods/ghettos of Florida will speak horrible English, but theyre still a Floridian.

 

[bouncy]

Ohh another huge lie she said in that video.. Dominican Republic hasn't deported 1 human being yet.. Deportations have not started. The people who are returning to Haiti are doing it voluntarily and the DR is offering free transportation without criminal records back to their come country.. Around 13 to 14 thousand immigrants have already returned to their country voluntarily.

So you are a journalist? You are interviewing people, and going around to see what's what? We both know the answer. I would believe her before I believe you because you have shown how extremely biased you are.

You sound just like white people who really believed the U.S. wasn't racists, until TV started exposing shyt, in the 60's.

 

[NATU]

Originally written by "Carolina Santana Sabbagh"

Something has to be said.

Dominican Republic is not a racist country and there is no systematic violence against black people or Haitians or Dominicans of Haitian ascendance. Take this from someone who has observed this process closely, who has disagreed with many decisions of Dominican authorities, but who is also not willing to lie in favor of her expressed positions.

If you have said that Dominican Republic is a racist, xenophobe, systematically violent country against the aforementioned groups, you are either mistaken or lying.

Let’s stick to the facts:

Ruling 168-13 has been highly questioned due to its consequences on the right to citizenship. In short, many have argued that the ruling has retroactive effects and is therefore unfair. The defenders of this idea state that it is not until 2010 that restrictions on ‘jus solis’ (right to citizenship by place of birth) have been imposed, and that the Constitutional Court has ruled that these norms be aplicable to all who have been born on or after 1929, presumably causing that many who have the right to Dominican citizenship, would not have access to it.

On the other hand, those in favor of the ruling have indicated that citizenship regulation has been present since immigration laws were enacted in 1929. Hence, the ruling is not solely legal, but the only viable decision in accordance with the Law.

As to this matter, this is it. Period.

Chapter Number 2: Dominican Government starts a “Regularization Plan”

So, after the ruling, the Dominican Government started a Regularization Plan, (adopting the less severe of all possible measures that would result in accordance to the constitutional interpretation), which basically means that everyone who thought or felt he or she had been left out due to the ruling, and was now facing the possibility of repatriation, could now present him or herself, with the proper documentation at hand, to national authorities without any fear of repatriation, and apply for citizenship, when applicable, or for what would be an equivalent of a “green card”. Meanwhile, all repatriations were officially suspended in order to grant immigrants a period of tranquility that would allow them to work their way through the process without too much to worry about. Thousands of people attended and they have now regularized their status.

Some others did not attend and, in order to help them through this process, the Dominican Government generously extended the official deadline so that everyone who had not attended the process could do so. However, even that generous extension has now arrived to its final deadline.

Note: My mother is white, of Lebanese ascendance, born in DR after 1929, and has had to deal with some of the norms that apply to everyone with her reality. This has also happened to American friends and friends of friends in similar situations. It has nothing to do with race or country of origin. These are just DR's autonomous rules. (Thanks Alicia Butler for the reminder!)

Chapter Number 3: (After a Regularization Plan, The Official Suspension of All repatriations, and A Generous Extension of The Deadlines) Pacific and Regular Immigrant Control Processes Are In Order

Anyone would expect that after all of the above mentioned, the Government of the Dominican Republic would, at some point, start executing the policies that any and all countries apply on immigration-related affairs. Right?

Well, apparently and for some strange reason, that is not what everyone was expecting, but that is exactly what the Dominican Republic has rightfully started doing, humanly, patiently, and peacefully. However, thousands of people, most of them living in other countries and therefore just repeating each other without seeing anything with their own eyes, have denounced that there is a systematically violent approach to the problem, that the rights of people of color and Haitians have been severely affected through acts of violence and discrimination.

This is not true. Please note that there is not one single piece of real evidence that would indicate this.

Scenes from movies have been taken out of context and have been pointed out as real events of tragic violence in Dominican Republic against Haitian families (see picture below), pictures from other countries and other circumstances have been used as “proof” of the discrimination against black people in DR, while white, black, asian, arab… people live peacefully, all together, in every corner of this country. It is a lie, folks, a lucrative lie, that favors powerful interest groups.

I am writing from Santo Domingo; I have family members living in the eastern (Higuey) and central (Ocoa) parts of the island and some others on the western provinces (Barahona) of the country, near the border with Haiti. Please listen to me when I say: There is no chaos in Dominican Republic, nor violence against immigrants. While some have been peacefully repatriated, many have even returned voluntarily, and those who have needed help have been aided by the government in order to make their journey possible, while granting them the opportunity of not facing any sanctions due to illegal immigration, offering them an unprecedented clean slate (see http://www.elcaribe.com.do/2015/06/23/migracion-dice-mas-12-mil-personas-han-retornado-voluntariamente).

PLUS -LAST MINUTE UPDATE-: The administrative process of repatriation is subject to judicial control, which means that judges and courts could evaluate if each deportation was necessary and if it was completed in the correct manner. (Thanks Amaury Reyes for the reminder!)

After the social media came along, we, ordinary people, have been given the opportunity to speak louder and to a larger number of people than ever before. But “with great power, comes great responsibility”. We should always remember that we can be manipulated into communicating lies and have the moral obligation of answering to those intents with honorable doses of courageous truth.

Dominican Republic is a peaceful, beautiful, melting pot; it is a poor country that is finding its way through its social realities and challenges with both a human approach and an orderly point of view. Let us not hurt it unfairly.

(NOTE: IF YOU WILL BE SHARING THIS POST, PLEASE WRITE SOMETHING INDICATING THAT THE PICTURE DOES NOT PORTRAY WHAT IS GOING ON AND HAS BEEN EXTRACTED FROM A MOVIE SCENE, AND THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN YOUR CONTACTS READING ITS CAPTION. DUE TO THE SHARING FORMAT ON FACEBOOK, THE PICTURE WILL HAVE MORE PROMINENCE THAN THE TEXT IF YOU DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING ON IT, MAINLY COMMUNICATING EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN HERE.)

Disponible en español en: http://thesocialsciencepost.com/es/...inicana-es-un-pais-racista-pues-le-mintieron/

Available in English at: http://thesocialsciencepost.com/en/...can-republic-is-racist-you-have-been-lied-to/

 

[Arianne Martell]

@Arianne Martell I don't care who says what, when you have people being rounded up, or just to let they have to leave because of some bullshyt law, even though they have birth certificates proving they were born in D.R., I think it's wrong. These people know nothing but D.R., yet because of some bullshyt law, they are now stateless. I know you could care less, but I'm sad to write, some of those people will be sold into slavery.

At the very least D.R. could have helped the people who were born there, to find some type of way to prevent them from being stateless. Once you have no nation to cling to, foul people can do Anything to you. That is what I'm mad about. It has nothing to do with hating people because they are Dominican or Hatian, its because right is right, and wrong, is wrong!

They are not "stateless" the Haitian constitution gives them the right to their land and claim. Also, the Haitian descent can stay in the country by providing proof of identity, school, work, etc. DR has also a path to residency for those that are there illegally!! what other country does that? to break the law and then compensate you??

DR has helped more than enough and I am positive that we will continue to help Haiti BUT we have our poor to take care of. We have to put those people to work .

FYI - The person in charge of the border in DR was terminated.

Also, if by any chance we must take this surplus population, then Haiti should send some money to DR.

And about your last paragrahp...I'll ask you this,
Is it for DR a third world country, to take on and continue to maintain a surplus of undocumented people (there was a high surge after the earthquake) while taking away resources from its own poor population??

no country would go for that dumb strategy or even think about something like this.

The Haitian people need to rise up and CLAIM their land and demand accountability from the government and their leaders, for god's sake they have their OWN country...of course is not simple but they have to start somewhere.

and I appreciate your honesty and your pov is honorable...but world history doesn't agree with you.

 

[bouncy]

They are not "stateless" the Haitian constitution gives them the right to their land and claim. Also, the Haitian descent can stay in the country by providing proof of identity, school, work, etc. DR has also a path to residency for those that are there illegally!! what other country does that? to break the law and then compensate you??

DR has helped more than enough and I am positive that we will continue to help Haiti BUT we have our poor to take care of. We have to put those people to work .

FYI - The person in charge of the border in DR was terminated.

Also, if by any chance we must take this surplus population, then Haiti should send some money to DR.

And about your last paragrahp...I'll ask you this,
Is it for DR a third world country, to take on and continue to maintain a surplus of undocumented people (there was a high surge after the earthquake) while taking away resources from its own poor population??

no country would go for that dumb strategy or even think about something like this.

The Haitian people need to rise up and CLAIM their land and demand accountability from the government and their leaders, for god's sake they have their OWN country...of course is not simple but they have to start somewhere.

and I appreciate your honesty and your pov is honorable...but world history doesn't agree with you.

They are stateless. The Hatian government said they will deal with Hatian citizens, but people born in D.R., they can't deal with them, so they are stateless. It was in the article that @gonzo8402 linked, and it was dealt with in the video @606onit linked.

Again, if D.R. was doing this for good reasons, they would at least help those born in D.R. to find a proper solution. You, and Natu keep !mentioning the law, like that makes everything ok. Hitler had laws that hurt people, slavery had laws that hurt people, Jim Crow were laws that hurt people. An intelligent person knows!just because a law is written doesn't mean it's done for good reasons. Go find some other person to fool.

Man forget it, you are believing what you want. You are picking a side because you have a link to D.R., and could care less about others.

 

[Arianne Martell]

They are stateless. The Hatian government said they will deal with Hatian citizens, but people born in D.R., they can't deal with them, so they are stateless. It was in the article that @gonzo8402 linked, and it was dealt with in the video @606onit linked.

Man forget it, you are believing what you want. You are picking a side because you have a link to D.R., and could care less about others.

Then they are violating their own constitution

Pressure the Haitian government to follow what their constitution says and that those born in DR are also Haitian.

 

[bouncy]

Then they are violating their own constitution

Pressure the Haitian government to follow what their constitution says and that those born in DR are also Haitian.

Man you are foul. You see nothing wrong with a country that dumps its people who lived, and breathe, and added to the economy in different ways, to another country.

It's no reason to even keep going on with you. I'm realizing the older I get that, a smart person shouldn't argue with a fool because you will never get the fool to see how foolish they are, because they are FOOLS!

I'm just wasting my time.

 

[NATU]

Translated from spanish to english

Dominican government activates plan against smear campaign to the Dominican Republic

The government announced yesterday that it will launch an international strategic communications plan to counter what he called "unsubstantiated information" about the results of the National Plan of regularization of foreigners.

The announcement was made by Foreign Minister Andrés Navarro after concluding a meeting at the National Palace with President Danilo Medina and communication equipment from the government and other officials.

The meeting was addressed the issue of the attacks that have been doing against the country, claiming the facts are unfounded.

The campaign will target all the diplomacy to inform the international community with regard to the process of regularization of foreign and repatriation of foreigners residing in the country illegally.

Navarro said by Dominican embassies and consulates, the government will release actual results and the number of beneficiaries of immigration reform that has held the country.

In that regard, he called on society to join the defense of the country against this smear campaign.

"This ministry is preparing this program to counter unsubstantiated reports that have been circulating on the results of the National Plan for the Regularization just ended, the number of registered beneficiaries and immigration reform being conducted by the government," Navarro said.

The official spoke when interviewed by reporters as he left the office of President Danilo Medina, who met with the administrative Minister Jose Ramon Peralta, and presidential spokesman Roberto Rodriguez Marchena, among other area officials of the government communication. Navarro said that the authorities have to hand all the results that threw the implementation of the National Plan of regularization of foreigners, who said it was a success, where the number of registered foreigners is recorded and these figures show that there was a massive regularization .

The official said that the results have shown that Dominican Republic has respected the human rights of all foreigners and this is an operation on a larger scale than has ever done any country in the region.

The Chancellor said the country must show these achievements to the world, to the Dominican Republic accredited diplomatic and other nations, so they know the truth of the facts, to thereby restrain the value judgments that have been spreading without offering real from what is happening data deeply he regrets what he said.

In that regard, he invited all organizations in the country to join this campaign to inform everything the government has done in terms of treatment of migrants, as it is a cause not only the government but also of the business and civil society organizations.

"Dominican society has witnessed what has President Danilo Medina on treatment of migrants, should be added to this because this cause is not a government, it is not a State, is a society together which is the Dominican.

So I is also the media, employers, organizations of civil society must join this strategy truth, "he said.

For New York mayor
Concerning the statements of the mayor of New York, Bill De Blasio, who have called for a boycott of tourism to the Dominican Republic to protest the repatriation of Haitians living illegally in the country and did not accept the National Reorganization Plan Foreign Navarro said that it is RD value judgments about a person issued by the Dominican reality unknown.

In that sense, the Dominican Foreign Minister considered that whoever issuing any judgment on the country, you must first come to know their reality, while he said that the interest of the authorities is that everyone knows what has been done on the subject migration in Dominican Republic.

Original Article
http://www.listindiario.com/la-repu...o-activa-plan-contra-campaa-de-descrdito-a-rd