Pressure the gov. of the Dominican Republic to stop its planned "cleaning" of 250k black Dominicans

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aint nothing false about what i typed...i never met a jamaican who claimed he was black they all say they jamaican not black...and for my 2nd part yeah @Wild self is a low key sucker nikka...if im lying prove me wrong...
You sure you're talking about black Jamaicans?

Never met a black Jamaican who said they weren't black. :francis:
 

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Grant automatic citizenship to people born in the DR.

As for people seeking to become Dominican citizens, have them take Spanish literacy exams and Dominican history exams.

Moreover, the law doesn't have to stretch back to 1929. The government can use 2010 or so as a cut-off.


The law doesn't stretch back to 1929. That was the original Court ruling that drew international outcry and the Government passed amendments to make that better.

Your idea of amnesty would certainly be less restrictive to the immigrants, but it's probably politically impossible. The US is an example of how difficult it is to get the public behind the idea of amnesty.
 

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The law doesn't stretch back to 1929. That was the original Court ruling that drew international outcry and the Government passed amendments to make that better.

Your idea of amnesty would certainly be less restrictive to the immigrants, but it's probably politically impossible. The US is an example of how difficult it is to get the public behind the idea of amnesty.


How would my idea for amnesty be politically impossible? Similar ideas have worked in other countries (of different population sizes).

And the DR is mainly concerned with 250K Haitians/blacks; that's nowhere near the amount of immigrants the US has to account for in its logjam of immigration intake.
 

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Grant automatic citizenship to people born in the DR.

As for people seeking to become Dominican citizens, have them take Spanish literacy exams and Dominican history exams.

Moreover, the law doesn't have to stretch back to 1929. The government can use 2010 or so as a cut-off.

Haiti doesn't grant automatic citizenship to people born in Haiti, why would we do it?? See the hipocrasy in your comment??

This has absolutely nothing to do with race, its just that we have 2 million haitians living in our country using our resources and we have done nothing to address the issue. Now that we are taking interest in controlling the situation, you backstabbing a$$holes are spitting in our faces all over the world, spreading wrong information all around and accusing us of racism.

The only country that has helped Haiti is DR, not even USA. All they did was a big show like they always do.

You invaded us and slaughtered our people and now you say that you freed us from slavery. fukk off!! You're all worthless scum, who have always envied and hated DR. You guys want our country and our people to dissapear, thats the real haitian wet dream. And the harder you hate on us, the more miserable your country becomes, to the point where the haitian population has found itself drowning in a pile of shyt. Now that you can't invade us, what you do is make everybody feel sorry for you and spread disgusting bad publicity to make the world hate dominicans.
 

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aint nothing false about what i typed...i never met a jamaican who claimed he was black they all say they jamaican not black...and for my 2nd part yeah @Wild self is a low key sucker nikka...if im lying prove me wrong...

So Bob Marley said that he ain't blaxk? Marcus Garvey? Peter Tosh?
 

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aint nothing false about what i typed...i never met a jamaican who claimed he was black they all say they jamaican not black...and for my 2nd part yeah @Wild self is a low key sucker nikka...if im lying prove me wrong...
All black Jamaicans call themselves black and know and acknowledge their African roots we are not at all similar to Dominic00ns. Theres no evidence to suggest otherwise besides your fictional anecdotes
 

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We are not racist people, the thing is that we are just not interested in the black cause because it is controversial, full of resentment and closed within their own prejudices. We view black supremacy or afrocentrism as just as bad as white supremacy or eurocentrism.
 

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Haiti doesn't grant automatic citizenship to people born in Haiti, why would we do it?? See the hipocrasy in your comment??

This has absolutely nothing to do with race, its just that we have 2 million haitians living in our country using our resources and we have done nothing to address the issue. Now that we are taking interest in controlling the situation, you backstabbing a$$holes are spitting in our faces all over the world, spreading wrong information all around and accusing us of racism.

The only country that has helped Haiti is DR, not even USA. All they did was a big show like they always do.

You invaded us and slaughtered our people and now you say that you freed us from slavery. fukk off!! You're all worthless scum, who have always envied and hated DR. You guys want our country and our people to dissapear, thats the real haitian wet dream. And the harder you hate on us, the more miserable your country becomes, to the point where the haitian population has found itself drowning in a pile of shyt. Now that you can't invade us, what you do is make everybody feel sorry for you and spread disgusting bad publicity to make the world hate dominicans.
Haiti ended slavery in DR and yall ran back to the Spanish. Plus yall begged the US to take you over for years. Dominic00n Republic gotta be the only colony ever to want to go back to being a colony
 

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How would my idea for amnesty be politically impossible? Similar ideas have worked in other countries (of different population sizes).

And the DR is mainly concerned with 250K Haitians/blacks; that's nowhere near the amount of immigrants the US has to account for in its logjam of immigration intake.

Judging the current political climate in DR it seems a lot less receptive to Haitians than the US is to Mexicans. And as I stated, amnesty bills are pretty much DOA here.
 

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Haiti doesn't grant automatic citizenship to people born in Haiti, why would we do it?? See the hipocrasy in your comment??

I was just stating ONE alternative measure by which the DR could "protect its identity." I wasn't saying that the DR should. Calm your t*ts, boy.

This has absolutely nothing to do with race, its just that we have 2 million haitians living in our country using our resources and we have done nothing to address the issue. Now that we are taking interest in controlling the situation, you backstabbing a$$holes are spitting in our faces all over the world, spreading wrong information all around and accusing us of racism.

1. You fail to acknowledge that those Haitians are in fact Dominican citizens. Thus, they're entitled to Dominican resources.

2. DR is not "taking control of the situation" but is in fact engaging in a systematic practice of racism. DR is literally taking people off the streets and sending them to concentration camps for deportation based on the color of their skin and their Haitian heritage. This isn't taking control of the situation, this is concerted racism under the guise of "immigration control."

The only country that has helped Haiti is DR, not even USA. All they did was a big show like they always do.

Wrong. Canada, South Korea, Taiwan, China, Japan, Australia, Brazil, Israel, India, Sweden, Switzerland, Venezuela, and Cuba all helped Haiti during the earthquake situation alone. But kudos to DR for providing some aid to the country with which it shares an island.

You invaded us and slaughtered our people and now you say that you freed us from slavery. fukk off!! You're all worthless scum, who have always envied and hated DR. You guys want our country and our people to dissapear, thats the real haitian wet dream. And the harder you hate on us, the more miserable your country becomes, to the point where the haitian population has found itself drowning in a pile of shyt. Now that you can't invade us, what you do is make everybody feel sorry for you and spread disgusting bad publicity to make the world hate dominicans.

This is emotional drivel.

Act like Trujillo and Balaguer never ordered the mass genocides of Haitians and blacks, brehs.

:umad:
 

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Judging the current political climate in DR it seems a lot less receptive to Haitians than the US is to Mexicans. And as I stated, amnesty bills are pretty much DOA here.

:usure:

I'd say that Haitians and Mexicans are very similar, with the only difference being that there are MUCH fewer Haitians trying to get into DR than Mexicans trying to get into the US.
 

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We are not racist people, the thing is that we are just not interested in the black cause because it is controversial, full of resentment and closed within their own prejudices. We view black supremacy or afrocentrism as just as bad as white supremacy or eurocentrism.

Do y'all Dominican nikkas not understand that y'all are black? :dwillhuh:

And bullshyt on y'all viewing white supremacy/eurocentrism as bad. The DR celebrates Spain's colonization of your people while shytting on any and all afrocentrism.
 

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Haiti ended slavery in DR and yall ran back to the Spanish. Plus yall begged the US to take you over for years. Dominic00n Republic gotta be the only colony ever to want to go back to being a colony

Don't try and give me history classes about my country because you will end up losing.

First of all, slavery in DR wasn't as brutal, the french and the english were way more cruel to their slaves than the spanish, also the colony of Santo Domingo was very very very poor, to the point where white spanish masters were living in the same conditions as their black slaves.

Spain basically abandoned Santo Domingo, which is why José Núñez de Cáceres led an independant movement to expel the spanish crown out of the country, he called it "Spanish Haiti", but that only lasted a couple of months before Jean Pierre Boyer invaded "Spanish Haiti" (actual Dominican Republic) with his black supremacy ideology, and started slaughtering every dominican that did not have STRONG AFRICAN FEATURES.

It was a brutal and degrading regime, where haitians robbed, raped and killed many dominicans barbarically just because the mulatto dominican population reminded them of their french masters. They closed the only dominican university, broke relations with the catholic church and prohibited the spanish language. That is without mentioning the strong taxation that was imposed on the dominican population to help Haiti pay its compensation to France. It was fukked up. So don't talk to me about being thankful, Haiti should be thankful to us, because all we have done is help that God forsaken country.

Haitians are horrible backstabbing people who are not worth helping. The type of people that would chop the hand that feeds them with an electric chainsaw if they could.
 
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