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Admired, past tense. Carson fukked up all of his good will with the black community by building his political capital through attacking the first black president. Carson isn't the same respected figure he used to be in the black community.
The Haitian immigrant population is about 600,000 in total which makes them a tiny enough voting bloc that no one will pay any attention to them. Plus most American black people aren't woke towards the plight of Hatians like that.
And there is more than enough actual Trump racism towards black people over the past 40 years that will keep black voters from fukking with him.
Well, Cornell West attacked Obama too. Still, he's respected a lot. Not defending Trump, but he hasn't put loads of Blacks in prison and not rehabilitate them. Hate to say this, but I'm thinking less of two evil term. Clinton is more hawkish than Trump. I'm trying to vote wisely. Like I said, if Clinton was honest and took accountability for her actions, then she would get my support in November. Only thing she cares about is power and a vote.
 

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As far as Rubio is concerned, Trump's going down in flames while he'll get to run again for the Republican nomination in 2020. That's part of the reason I picked Webb: the more attractive VP candidates like Nikki Haley and Susana Martinez don't want anything to do with Trump.
If he doesn't make it this time Trump should NEVER run again.
 

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I think the Black vote could split if Trump really goes in on Clinton. Also, the Cubans may vote for Trump if he gets Rubio as VP (Hope he picks Carson though).
it wont split at all. Blacks are Clinton Loyalist.

This won't change ever. Its sad. Bernie had the most pro-black record and countless speeches predicting the fukking over of blacks and still the blacks didn't flip.

Men (45% of the vote): Clinton 43% Trump 52% Stein 5%
Women (55%): Clinton 50% Trump 35% Stein 15%
White (72%): Clinton 45% Trump 52%
African-American (13%): Clinton 90% Trump 8%
Hispanic (10%): Clinton 86% Trump 10%
Asian (3%): Clinton 80% Trump 16%

This is assuming Hlllary does not pick Bernie as her VP. If she does, the numbers will be in more in her favor. In fact, it will be the biggest spread in american history.
 

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it wont split at all. Blacks are Clinton Loyalist.

This won't change ever. Its sad. Bernie had the most pro-black record and countless speeches predicting the fukking over of blacks and still the blacks didn't flip.

Men (45% of the vote): Clinton 43% Trump 52% Stein 5%
Women (55%): Clinton 50% Trump 35% Stein 15%
White (72%): Clinton 45% Trump 52%
African-American (13%): Clinton 90% Trump 8%
Hispanic (10%): Clinton 86% Trump 10%
Asian (3%): Clinton 80% Trump 16%

This is assuming Hlllary does not pick Bernie as her VP. If she does, the numbers will be in more in her favor. In fact, it will be the biggest spread in american history.
Speaking of Stein, do you think she can get over 5% of the vote?

I HATE to say this as a progressive, but if I was Clinton I would make Sanders my VP.
 

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I think he'll win the Asian vote, and maybe lose the black vote, there really is no reason he shouldn't win those 2 votes, only demographics that have reasons to not vote trump are women and latinos.
Trump will win the Asian vote? :mjlol:

Trump MAYBE will lose the black vote?

People just randomly throwing out baseless prognostications totally divorced from reality. When HL get so garbage?
 
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Speaking of Stein, do you think she can get over 5% of the vote?

I HATE to say this as a progressive, but if I was Clinton I would make Sanders my VP.

Yes she can IF bernie doesnt get the nod as VP. She is the candidate most like Bernie AND the bernie voters are already putting her in full circulation as an alternative to Hillary. Additionally, over 40% of bernie supporters are #neverhillary
 

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Yes she can IF bernie doesnt get the nod as VP. She is the candidate most like Bernie AND the bernie voters are already putting her in full circulation as an alternative to Hillary. Additionally, over 40% of bernie supporters are #neverhillary
Interesting:ehh: That can be a good thing for us in the long run.
 

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I think the Black vote could split if Trump really goes in on Clinton. Also, the Cubans may vote for Trump if he gets Rubio as VP (Hope he picks Carson though).
stop it. the black vote aint splitting for trump period. stop the lies.

here's the only 3 options for black voters.
#1 vote for shillary
#2 vote for green party(or write in)
#3 dont show up to the polls.

there is no 4th option that says vote trump. unless you're a ben carson type of black person which there are a very very very very small population of those types of black folks.
 

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Speaking of Stein, do you think she can get over 5% of the vote?

I HATE to say this as a progressive, but if I was Clinton I would make Sanders my VP.
bernie supporters wont care if hillary made bernie her VP. everyone knows VP's have zero power unless the president dies all of a sudden.

VP's for the most part are not known to affect change in some great way. and remember we know there's no way she would allow him to affect his kind of change to begin with. she is a war hawk, she is down with wallstreet and big money(if nothing else she owes them some favors for giving her so much campaign money, super pac money and being overpaid for speeches. they paid her for favors like everyone does politicians. she will have to pay them back. thats how it works. whoever pays you thats who your constituent is. so there's no room for bernie to do anything real.
 

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stop it. the black vote aint splitting for trump period. stop the lies.

here's the only 3 options for black voters.
#1 vote for shillary
#2 vote for green party(or write in)
#3 dont show up to the polls.

there is no 4th option that says vote trump. unless you're a ben carson type of black person which there are a very very very very small population of those types of black folks.
I said "THINK" thinking isn't a lie dude because I didn't state it as fact.

bernie supporters wont care if hillary made bernie her VP. everyone knows VP's have zero power unless the president dies all of a sudden.

VP's for the most part are not known to affect change in some great way. and remember we know there's no way she would allow him to affect his kind of change to begin with. she is a war hawk, she is down with wallstreet and big money(if nothing else she owes them some favors for giving her so much campaign money, super pac money and being overpaid for speeches. they paid her for favors like everyone does politicians. she will have to pay them back. thats how it works. whoever pays you thats who your constituent is. so there's no room for bernie to do anything real.
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The Republican primary is probably 90% non-Hispanic white voters. Minority vote is locked in just off party ID alone. The rhetoric of Trump is couched in America first terms but the subtext of that is always associated with white supremacist exclusionary rhetoric. This entire cycle demographics have been a strong predictor of the vote even in the face of media driven stuff like momentum etc. State by state is interesting but the Democrats start with a big advantage there, while trade might be an issue in some rustbelt states I don't think it will play out in Ohio the way people are expecting it to. Hillary should have lost by bigger margins in PA,OH,MI if those trade issues played to that electorate the way the media expected them. I think she will get most of what Obama got in 2012 and can still win without Florida.
 

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Yes she can IF bernie doesnt get the nod as VP. She is the candidate most like Bernie AND the bernie voters are already putting her in full circulation as an alternative to Hillary. Additionally, over 40% of bernie supporters are #neverhillary

:duck:Link to 40% stat
 

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Well, Cornell West attacked Obama too. Still, he's respected a lot. Not defending Trump, but he hasn't put loads of Blacks in prison and not rehabilitate them. Hate to say this, but I'm thinking less of two evil term. Clinton is more hawkish than Trump. I'm trying to vote wisely. Like I said, if Clinton was honest and took accountability for her actions, then she would get my support in November. Only thing she cares about is power and a vote.
Cornell West has lost some of his standing among black folks too but unlike Carson he didn't join the Republicans in attacking Obama.

Clinton hasn't put loads of blacks in prison either so I am a bit confused by what you are even talking about right there. If you are talking about the 94 Crime Bill then that is something you will need to take up with Bill Clinton,Joe Biden, the majority of the Congressional Black Caucus and maybe even Bernie Sanders since he actually voted for it.
The one thing Trump has done is lead a public campaign to get 5 young black men put on death row based on sketchy evidence and before a trial was even started and has consistently refused to admit he was wrong when those 5 young black men were exonerated. People really need to start looking at Trump's past a bit more closely.

Trump has said he wants to blow up family members of suspected terrorists, made not so veiled threats to America friends and enemies alike in that retarded foreign policy speech he gave last week and he is all for everyone on the planet having nukes. Just because he claims he was against the Iraq War doesn't make him not be a hawk.

And based on your posts it looks more like you are less concerned with voting wisely and just digging in your heels on a "Never Hillary" stance. So you are willing to see silver linings in anyone that is not her even a total assclown like Donald Trump.
 
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