POTUS or Prisoner; The '24 Trump Campaign Fvckery thread

[the cac mamba]

 

[88m3]

Desantis can still pull it off if he pivots all the way away from trying to run to the right of Trump on everything

He won't because he has incompetent people advising him but logically he could still fool big GOP donors into his spinelessness if he simply dropped the culture war nonsense entirely

he can get the money(big maybe at this point tbh) but he will never get the votes

also the general voting public isn't going to get behind him he's signed the laws it isn't just rhetoric in case, the w/s culture war shyt that he shovels is truly unpalatable to the majority


I still can't get over the fact the Republicans are still trying to relitigate gay rights and abortion. That ship has long since sailed

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Noticing a lot of right wing twitter figures playing a real lazy game on these (continued) Trump indictments. They want to appeal to logic when it comes to Trump stans, and slowly guide them to the better (in their mind) choice without actually endorsing him: DeSantis. So you'll see things like "if these charges are true" or "Trump will have to demonstrate clear evidence to disprove this" etc etc...but none of it is working. It's clear the Trump stans won't let him go unless he just dies. Nor is DeSantis compelling enough to win them over.

Maybe the national polling is wrong and isn't seeing momentum in local states for other candidates. But I see no reason to believe that when even the state polling also shows Trump up big.

It shows just how fractured the party is with the different sects but still trying to maintain their ability to pass the RINO purity test. It's a maddening run of both hypocrisy and delirium.

 

[Wepa Man]

Mr. Grifter

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Mr. Grifter

Trump is 6'3". Mufukka lies profusely. That thing shows him at 6'5"

 

[Silky Johnson]

Take the polls with big grains of salt and follow the money. The campaign is broke & the wire fraud indictment didn't even drop yet. Trump won't be the nominee.

 

[Robbie3000]

Take the polls with big grains of salt and follow the money. The campaign is broke & the wire fraud indictment didn't even drop yet. Trump won't be the nominee.

We are not talking about a couple of percentage point difference. We are talking about 40-50% difference in some polls and DeSantis won’t stop shooting himself in the foot.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[Reality Check]

Desantis can still pull it off if he pivots all the way away from trying to run to the right of Trump on everything

He won't because he has incompetent people advising him but logically he could still fool big GOP donors into his spinelessness if he simply dropped the culture war nonsense entirely

Only people who actually believe the bolded are DeSantis marks. There's no putting the toothpaste back in the bottle with DeSantis. Everyone now sees him for what he is: a socially awkward, charisma vacuum with a Napolean complex.

 

[Hood Critic]

Unless donors, not just big but small money donors, start contributing more to Meatball - he might end up getting himself out of there. His campaign is in similar financial jeopardy.

They're going to put a gun to Youngkin's head to force him to run because he's their most viable name recognition wise.

 

[Silky Johnson]

We are not talking about a couple of percentage point difference. We are talking about 40-50% difference in some polls and DeSantis won’t stop shooting himself in the foot.

Like I said, take the results from even the so-called quality polls with a grain of salt. Without the context of the total numbers, the percentages can seem sensational. Take the latest NYT/sienna poll as an example:

They called 1392 people. 492 more people prefer Trump over DeSantis doesn't hit the same as as a 37 percentage point lead. What's more, over 80 percent of those called voted for Trump in 2020. The headlines will run with the top line number but if you think about it, if you wanna play percentages the real story is 27 percent of Trump 2020 voters prefer somebody else.

That decline in support tracks with the abysmal fund raising numbers the "campaign" is posting. It's less about desantis or whoever and more about the fact that dude is losing a significant amount support and donors.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

Trump Can’t Win | National Review

Forget current polling and think about the onslaught that’s coming once the former president sews up the GOP nomination.

www.nationalreview.com

This guy is a committed right winger. Makes a lot of good points.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

Unless donors, not just big but small money donors, start contributing more to Meatball - he might end up getting himself out of there. His campaign is in similar financial jeopardy.

They're going to put a gun to Youngkin's head to force him to run because he's their most viable name recognition wise.

I don't see anyone of any real stature jumping in at the last second. This election is such a clusterfukk for the GOP. At this point I don't know if there is a republican alive that can unify the warring factions. They'll need need at least one election cycle to wash out the trump residue.

 

[Robbie3000]

Like I said, take the results from even the so-called quality polls with a grain of salt. Without the context of the total numbers, the percentages can seem sensational. Take the latest NYT/sienna poll as an example:

They called 1392 people. 492 more people prefer Trump over DeSantis doesn't hit the same as as a 37 percentage point lead. What's more, over 80 percent of those called voted for Trump in 2020. The headlines will run with the top line number but if you think about it, if you wanna play percentages the real story is 27 percent of Trump 2020 voters prefer somebody else.

That decline in support tracks with the abysmal fund raising numbers the "campaign" is posting. It's less about desantis or whoever and more about the fact that dude is losing a significant amount support and donors.

I don’t think you understand how polling works.

 

[Consigliere]

Take the polls with big grains of salt and follow the money. The campaign is broke & the wire fraud indictment didn't even drop yet. Trump won't be the nominee.

I don’t think Trump will be the nominee either.

Just a question of how and when it officially happens.

Either a brokered convention (likely) or Trump choosing not to run (unlikely) or a conviction that makes him ineligible (unlikely in this timeframe).