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How much echo chambering was on todays show? I’m tempted to download and write an email to the show. Figured they used morals/morality a ton but they turn blind to what they want to ignore. Ruiz’s favorite soccer squad has a Russian oligarch with ties to Putin. His baseball team along with other MLB squads exploit DR talent and pay bottom barrel prices for those guys services. They’re all huge wrestling and MMA fans and they both traffic heavily in sexual and racial tropes. His MLS team wants to pay little to no taxes on large publicly owned land. This whole “morality” thing they want in sports can reach out to all the shyt they love but they won’t utter a single word about it
 

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How much echo chambering was on todays show? I’m tempted to download and write an email to the show. Figured they used morals/morality a ton but they turn blind to what they want to ignore. Ruiz’s favorite soccer squad has a Russian oligarch with ties to Putin. His baseball team along with other MLB squads exploit DR talent and pay bottom barrel prices for those guys services. They’re all huge wrestling and MMA fans and they both traffic heavily in sexual and racial tropes. His MLS team wants to pay little to no taxes on large publicly owned land. This whole “morality” thing they want in sports can reach out to all the shyt they love but they won’t utter a single word about it

Mike mentioned the soccer thing today during the whole Watson talk & they've discussed it a bunch the last couple weeks.

The MLS stuff comes up all the time especially w/ Billy Corben, Dan is the first to point out wrestling trafficking in & profiting off stereotypes, and they've spoken on exploiting the international market for ballplayers many times, especially in Samson segments.

In today's discussion, they mainly kept their moralizing to similar accusations ie Big "also accused" Ben but to act like they're silent on the other issues you mentioned simply b/c some of them didn't come up in this specific discussion is extremely disingenuous and to state they don't 'utter a single word about them' is just wrong.
 

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The MLS stuff comes up all the time especially w/ Billy Corben, Dan is the first to point out wrestling trafficking in & profiting off stereotypes, and they've spoken on exploiting the international market for ballplayers many times, especially in Samson segments.
My whole reasoning for bringing it up is, if it bothers you that much, either stop giving it airtime/attention, your dollars OR do the former WHILE going balls to the wall in scrutinizing it. Yes, they've spoken on it but they haven't attached emotion on some "I'll never watch this again" shyt. Hell, if I wanna take it further than that, they should just stop talking sports in total. My issue with Ruiz is (and its a fault that everyone on that show has but him in this particular instance) is he goes scorched earth when the "antagonists" just so happens to be Black (and there are PLENTY of other examples). He totally dismissed Kaep's entire argument cause he wore pig socks and a Castro tee. He talks morals while also being cool w/ Masvidal and Will Cain. Giving the latter a platform on his way out the door because that was "my friend and I didn't know he was like that" after he said w/e BS it was he said when he made the move to Fox. His periphery can't be that bad when everyone has mentioned that Cain was about as alt-right as you could get in sports broadcasting. This is a hinderance in my own real life but I'm the type of person who feels if we gonna be one way about something or someone, it needs to be that way across the board. Don't be a la carte with this thing. If you're upset about how women are treated when it's a sports figure involved, I don't want to hear you talking about watching the national broadcast of the Heat game when Marv Albert was doing commentary. Racism and sexism bad? Don't wanna see you giving Tony Khan a national platform. You can separate the "art from the artists" all you want but credibility has to mean something and sports is the last place you should be looking for morality. Its damn near a microcosm of society itself
 
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My whole reasoning for bringing it up is, if it bothers you that much, either stop giving it airtime/attention, your dollars OR do the former WHILE going balls to the wall in scrutinizing it. Yes, they've spoken on it but they haven't attached emotion on some "I'll never watch this again" shyt. Hell, if I wanna take it further than that, they should just stop talking sports in total. My issue with Ruiz is (and its a fault that everyone on that show has but him in this particular instance) is he goes scorched earth when the "antagonists" just so happens to be Black (and there are PLENTY of other examples). He totally dismissed Kaep's entire argument cause he wore pig socks and a Castro tee. He talks morals while also being cool w/ Masvidal and Will Cain. Giving the latter a platform on his way out the door because that was "my friend and I didn't know he was like that" after he said w/e BS it was he said when he made the move to Fox. His periphery can't be that bad when everyone has mentioned that Cain was about as alt-right as you could get in sports broadcasting. This is a hinderance in my own real life but I'm the type of person who feels if we gonna be one way about something or someone, it needs to be that way across the board. Don't be a la carte with this thing. If you're upset about how women are treated when it's a sports figure involved, I don't want to hear you talking about watching the national broadcast of the Heat game when Marv Albert was doing commentary. Racism and sexism bad? Don't wanna see you giving Tony Khan a national platform. You can separate the "art from the artists" all you want but credibility has to mean something and sports is the last place you should be looking for morality. Its damn near a microcosm of society itself

So your first post you're complaining they're "silent" on these issues that they really do discuss, and now you're saying you want them to either be silent on them or go full out emotional "I quit this person/team/all sports" on it? Don't get it.

This one hit Mike different b/c it's his personal fandom being effected leading to him wanting to separate from that team. The show is discussing it through that prism and Mike gave plenty of caveats of maybe he'll feel different a year from now if the Browns win and doesn't judge those who still support the team and says this is just how he personally feels about it. Regardless what you feel about Mike in general, that's pretty much just an "IMO" rather than a "this is the only way to see this" take, and it's a fair angle for the show to investigate the topic from with plenty of avenues to take the conversation like they did today. In a world of takes this show plays in often, people sometimes miss that these discussions aren't determinations.

With Mike, although he might still have his blindsides & biases, he's also made some progressive steps these last few years and, while you're not wrong for knocking him on old wrongheaded takes, acting like he's still friendly today w/ Masvidal & Cain when he's said how he's distanced himself from them and specifically mentioned being wrong about Will is disingenuous on your part. You can still disagree, dislike him, think it's "alt-right Mike" underneath everything or whatever, but don't let calling out someone else's biases showcase your own.
 

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getting caught up on the shows this week and Amin was preaching on NBA media/reporting, but it's funny that he was an ardent Rachel Nichols supporter and she was everything he was saying NBA media should not.

Amin was low key spitting fire this week.

Part of the NBA's problem is just the nature of their schedule. 82 games is a lot, and realistically speaking, teams can go through absolutely abysmal stretches, and still be a potential playoff threat. But that's beside the point. He was absolutely spot on with the criticism of coverage of the NBA. The viewer has been conditioned to believe that none of these games really matter until March at the earliest.

Also, I was happy he was there to kill Dan trying to blame that Heat fight on player empowerment. That was really just two a$$holes being a$$holes to each other in the middle of a blowout, and Haslem doing what he's actually being paid for.
 

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Amin was low key spitting fire this week.

Part of the NBA's problem is just the nature of their schedule. 82 games is a lot, and realistically speaking, teams can go through absolutely abysmal stretches, and still be a potential playoff threat. But that's beside the point. He was absolutely spot on with the criticism of coverage of the NBA. The viewer has been conditioned to believe that none of these games really matter until March at the earliest.

Also, I was happy he was there to kill Dan trying to blame that Heat fight on player empowerment. That was really just two a$$holes being a$$holes to each other in the middle of a blowout, and Haslem doing what he's actually being paid for.
Dan gonna make sure he gets off a "player empowerment" or "evolution of the game" take no matter the topic
 
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