Poor Sam Bradford......Schotty

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He's worse than his pops. At least Marty Ball came when you had the lead. This fukk plays the shyt the whole game.
 

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Dude has a 6 year track record of mediocrity and you're bashing the players? Coaches are just as fallible as players are if not more. Sanchez has talent. That talent didn't disappear once he went to the NFL. That's the same with every player drafted. You're cool with bringing up the history and trends of Sanchez, but you're saying it might be Jeff Fisher's fault that they run the same exact play on 2 different teams in the same situation? Nope. It's the offensive coordinator. He worked under his dad where his pop's offenses were run in the same exact way. That's why they never won anything.

:childplease: under those 6 years who did he have at QB? A broken and noodle armed Pennington? Kellen Clemons? a hobbled and over done Favre? an over rated Sanchez? c'mon now, football teams LIVE and DIE by their QB's. The JEts haven't had any consistent QB play for as long as I can remember. YOu can't blame the OC for that.

I'm a Niners fan. I don't live in NY surrounded by nothing, but Jets and Giants. I watch every fukking game and if you read what I said I avoided these because I thought they were bullshyt until I paid attention so either you don't pay attention or you don't know what you're looking for.

The fukk you talking about? I saw two gifs and dismissed them because they were isolated calls that I've seen EVERY TEAM in the NFL minus the Patriots call. but since you seen it called by the same guy it means he's trying to make the team lose :roll eyes: c'mon man, how do we know that those calls weren't coming from the HC telling them to play conservative and wanted to rely on their DEFENSE that has gotten them that far??

Also, Brett Favre runs what he wants. He always has. Bringing him up is non-sense because he changed plays all the time. None of his coaches tripped about it except for Childress in Minnesota.

So what then? he runs his own plays....so what does that say for shotty? I don't get it.
 

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How about we end this argument like this.

This season will tell you who the problem was on that team. Or it will tell you that BOTH guys were the problem. I'm NOT saying Shotty is a great or even a Good OC. What I'm saying is that He is being used as a scapegoat for Sanchez and his poor QB play.

They are probably both equally at fault, but one shouldn't dismiss Sanchez's play as Shotty's fault, just because Sanchez was the one they kept.

Now I know Sanchez has the better team around him, and has better talent on offence but if Bradford shows some real progress over last year while Sanchez doesn't then I'm gonna have to say that Shotty wasn't the biggest problem.

BUT if Sanchez takes it to the next level and Bradford stagnates I will admit that I was wrong.

We will just have to let the season play itself out.
 

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Classic Schotty

See the problem here is that you can't just take one play and make a judgement on it without looking at the full context of the game.

IT looks like it was supposed to be a quick drop. The lions had what like 4-5 sacks in that game? and were putting a lot of pressure on Bradford the whole game. So they wanted to have a quick drop and a quick pass to avoid getting a sack, and giving away even better field position. and in fact it looks like if the pass was on time and in the right spot he might of had enough space to make it to the FD marker.

What did you expect them to do? take the risk and go for the long first down with the Lions PLAYING the pass AND the rams shaky Oline getting dominated by the front four of the LIons?

gonna lead to either a sack or an INT. They were winning at that point, AND the rams were playing really good against stafford on D.

I thought you knew football?? your blinding hatred for Shotty is making you irrational
 

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See the problem here is that you can't just take one play and make a judgement on it without looking at the full context of the game.

IT looks like it was supposed to be a quick drop. The lions had what like 4-5 sacks in that game? and were putting a lot of pressure on Bradford the whole game. So they wanted to have a quick drop and a quick pass to avoid getting a sack, and giving away even better field position. and in fact it looks like if the pass was on time and in the right spot he might of had enough space to make it to the FD marker.

What did you expect them to do? take the risk and go for the long first down with the Lions PLAYING the pass AND the rams shaky Oline getting dominated by the front four of the LIons?

gonna lead to either a sack or an INT. They were winning at that point, AND the rams were playing really good against stafford on D.

I thought you knew football?? your blinding hatred for Shotty is making you irrational
I don't know football now? :heh:

Like I said earlier when talking to former Cleveland Brown LeCharles Bentley, some of you watching tape think its a flaw when often times, players are coached those flaws.

The Rams weren't getting dominated by the Lions front four. If anything, there were times that Bradford was holding the ball too long and missed some big plays that game. The Rams had great field position most of the game due to their defense and couldn't punch it in. I didn't blame Schooty for that, but he shyt the bed that last drive with that bad play call sEe how he Rams were exploiting the middle of the field until that point. Bradford was consistenly finding openings between the hashes all game. And if there's one major flaw with Schotty is his inability to see what's going on on the field and taking advantage of it. He went into his short of the sticks shell calling some "safe" low risk out pattern instead staying with what worked.

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The Jets have scored TDs on 13.6 pct of drives, sixth-lowest in NFL. The worst? I'll give you 1 Schott to name it. :mjpls:
 

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And Bradford still outplaying Sanchez, Sanchez is actually worse without Schotty.

The personnel as a whole happened to get worse after Schotty.

I'll take the Rams offensive weapons over the Jets anytime.
 
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