POLL: Did Kamala LOSE, or did Trump WIN?

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  • Kamala Lost (bad candidate, bad policies, etc.)

    Votes: 53 48.6%
  • Trump Won (America shifting right, they like his messaging, etc.)

    Votes: 56 51.4%

  • Total voters
    109

RamsayBolton

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the american fukking people made their choice :snoop:but we if we're going to remain hopeful that the democratic institutions will survive (:sadcam: ) we also gotta look to the future after 4 years

which requires some diagnosis and adjustment

So

Did Kamala lose (bad candidate, bad policies, etc.) or did Trump win (america shifting right, they like his messaging, etc)?
 

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RamsayBolton

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nikka what?

:mjlol:

put another way:

if you think Biden or some other candidate after a primary like Newsome could have won the election in the same time frame with different approaches = you think Kamala LOST it for us

If you think Trump was likely to win regardless of who ran because apparently his message resonated more with shifting American sensibilities = you think Trump was going to WIN it regardless
 

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Both, yeah at this point it's clear to anyone MAGA is a literal cult.
Kamala should have faced a primary, she listened to her donors way too much, and should have been more of a populist. She should have contrasted her policies with Biden by being stronger on the Gaza conflict, and offering actual economic populist issues.
 

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Newsom would’ve won, but Kamala also could’ve won if she separated from Biden on key issues. :yeshrug:
Not necessarily, Newsom is a classical corporate democrat who has a slickness that could have turned off a lot of people to him.
But yeah, in terms of messaging and media, he would have done better than Kamala.
 
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