Politico: Democrats Underperforming W/ Black Voters

[Professor Emeritus]

Obama promised universal health care, did stuff for HBCUs, and basically a whole bunch of stuff that sounded good, but didn't really change anything. All the stuff you mentioned isn't specific to black people, and we've heard it all before. Maybe a couple of new things this time, but still not reparations, and black people are past impatient with the Democrats.

Wait, your knock on unkept promises is Obama promising a universal health care bill that he literally delivered on and which only had a diluted impact because conservatives blocked everything they could at every possible level and the courts ruled that red states didn't have to go along if they didn't want to?

And that Obama "did stuff you HBCUs"....how is that a knock on him?

What do you want at that point? Like what the fukk do you want if you consider someone delivering on his exact fukking promise, and only being blocked by racist state-level governments he has no control over, as some sort of "unkept promise"?



And those two moves by Obama (good but not nearly enough) are nowhere near comparable to what Bernie is running on. Bernie Sanders literally considered running a primary challenge on Obama cause he was concerned Obama wasn't doing enough for low-income folk.

You didn't answer the questions at all. Why is the Democrat Party going crazy trying to stop Bernie and talking like his programs will usher in an apocalypse if free tuition at HBCUs, increased funding for HBCUs, Medicare For All, a living wage, a Federal Jobs Guarantee, ending redlining and discrimination in banking, ending environmental racism, H.R. 40, and all the other shyt he's promising is meaningless and won't help nobody?

Why are Republicans AND Establishment Democrats talking like this is a game-changer and shook as fukk?

 

[Wild self]

Don't let the agents in this thread fool you. We gonna be out there to vote, and Trumps ass is history. This is not a discussion in the black community at ALL.

There is no discussion here. Trump is going down period.

Republicans and p*ssy ass cacs been saying "Blacks are gonna go Republican this time!" for fukking decades. Them mfers lightspeed stupid.


Black voters still unsure about Obama
FEBRUARY 8, 2007 / 12:36 PM / 13 YEARS AGO
Black voters still unsure about Obama



Beating their chest about Obama not getting them black votes before the election. Then, what happens after the election?



Exit polls: How Obama won
11/05/2008 12:27 AM EST


https://www.politico.com/story/2008/11/exit-polls-how-obama-won-015297





So let these cacs and agents flex. They still wishing upon a fukking star that we will ever fukk with them. FOH.

History repeats itself

 

[bzb]

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/ado...ations-bill-has-been-revealed-ab-3121.763239/

If you're supporting candidates that have explicitly said no to reparations, then you're against reparations. It came straight from the horse's mouth. Some of us don't want to lend support to candidates that can't support us in return. How hard is this?

but only one of the choices for potus has said he won't sign such a bill. yet a bunch of people are struggle posting about basically keeping chump in office. makes total sense.

 

[Wild self]

HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW OR ACKNOWLEDGE THIS shyt?!

Cause They truly are pacified. They dont care about the black community at large. Ask them what was the last black owned business they supported, and they will give you the run around. Ask them what programs that they assisted towards young black children, and they make excuses. But you trust them on every black person's destiny.

 

[TNOT]

Don't let the agents in this thread fool you. We gonna be out there to vote, and Trumps ass is history. This is not a discussion in the black community at ALL.

There is no discussion here. Trump is going down period.

Republicans and p*ssy ass cacs been saying "Blacks are gonna go Republican this time!" for fukking decades. Them mfers lightspeed stupid.


Black voters still unsure about Obama
FEBRUARY 8, 2007 / 12:36 PM / 13 YEARS AGO
Black voters still unsure about Obama



Beating their chest about Obama not getting them black votes before the election. Then, what happens after the election?



Exit polls: How Obama won
11/05/2008 12:27 AM EST


https://www.politico.com/story/2008/11/exit-polls-how-obama-won-015297





So let these cacs and agents flex. They still wishing upon a fukking star that we will ever fukk with them. FOH.

It’s getting spooky out here Breh.


I would never vote for Trump.


But I believe his campaign is going to target black males to try and get a certain percentage of black male vote. His team will do the same thing in the Hispanic community.

you already see it with the topics popping up on Fox News about “Dems Pandering for Boack votes”. His team isn’t sophisticated, and they don’t really care about the black vote, they just want to pick off numbers from a Dem candidate.

By the time Summer gets here the rhetoric from Trump, exclusively aimed at black men will pick up. They either want to steal votes or for you to stay home

 

[Zero]

I'm just here to watch TLR cannibalize itself while continuing to be indecisive on which Dem to run behind whole swearing up and down Trump must be stopped at all costs

 

[Cobalt Sire]

Wait, your knock on unkept promises is Obama promising a universal health care bill that he literally delivered on and which only had a diluted impact because conservatives blocked everything they could at every possible level and the courts ruled that red states didn't have to go along if they didn't want to?

And that Obama "did stuff you HBCUs"....how is that a knock on him?

What do you want at that point? Like what the fukk do you want if you consider someone delivering on his exact fukking promise, and only being blocked by racist state-level governments he has no control over, as some sort of "unkept promise"?



And those two moves by Obama (good but not nearly enough) are nowhere near comparable to what Bernie is running on. Bernie Sanders literally considered running a primary challenge on Obama cause he was concerned Obama wasn't doing enough for low-income folk.

You didn't answer the questions at all. Why is the Democrat Party going crazy trying to stop Bernie and talking like his programs will usher in an apocalypse if free tuition at HBCUs, increased funding for HBCUs, Medicare For All, a living wage, a Federal Jobs Guarantee, ending redlining and discrimination in banking, ending environmental racism, H.R. 40, and all the other shyt he's promising is meaningless and won't help nobody?

Why are Republicans AND Establishment Democrats talking like this is a game-changer and shook as fukk?

Understand something. This is a negotiation between voters and candidates trying to get our votes. My goal is to bridge the wealth gap. I don't have faith that Bernie's policies are going to do that. Perhaps it's a better package than democrats have put together in the past, but I'm not convinced that he's going to get half of his policies off the ground. Even if he does, no one has convinced me that it is going to bridge the wealth gap. Overall, It just doesn't compare to reparations. Now one could make the argument that reparations aren't feasible, but if they do happen, it WILL bridge the wealth gap, no question, and it will be maintained with smart financial decisions.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

I'm just here to watch TLR cannibalize itself while continuing to be indecisive on which Dem to run behind whole swearing up and down Trump must be stopped at all costs

i'm confused by this as well...Trump is hitler, david duke, satan, and nino brown all rolled in one according to everybody for the past 3 years

now we must stop bernie and biden to save all of humanity, and there are democrats that are just as if not more racist than trump running...stupid, yet entertaining at the same time

 

[EndDomination]

There’s literally no Democrat running that is someone majority of people want to rally behind. Republicans already have their base that will vote for them no matter what. Democrats have too many fickle voters to be this all over the place.

That's what happens when you shift the entire US political system to the right over the course of 40 years.
The "Democrats" literally cover everything from Democratic Socialists and the Left that believes in electoral systems all the way to moderate conservatives - all while still being funded by corporations. Republicans are just a far-right coalition.

They must be new posters... admittedly I haven't been in HL for years but the last non liberal I remember was DEAD7, who seems like less of an actual libertarian and more of a liberal caricature of a libertarian. Who are HL's libertarians and conservatives?



Neoliberalism has undermined black interests too

Dems have been out-politicked by the GOP for decades, which is ground zero in fighting back against conservatism and racist Republican policy. They failed to anticipate and counterattack Trump's ascendancy. Like I asked @Mephistopheles - do the Dems have anything to offer their constituents besides not being Republicans? Because all rewarding their impotence does is delay the GOP's advances- not actually counter or stop them. Every election is life or death because the Democrats have no strategy. They are reacting to the GOP instead of executing their own game plan.

They pop up pretty frequently in the threads - all libertarians are caricatures I'd imagine.

The Republican strategy is voter suppression and dog-whistling. There isn't a "liberal" form of that - and the broad coalition makes building a consensus strategy more difficult. The vast majority of the money is still on the Republican side - and they independently run pro-Republican campaigns.

And I said "neoliberalism" - its not the opposite of "neoconservatism" they are often one and the same.

 

[Goon for hire]

I’m for Bernie regardless



Y’all can say whatever y’all want about Democrats but I rather have them in office than trump who galvanizes racist cacs and refers to them as gentlemen

 

[TNOT]

It’s getting spooky out here Breh.


I would never vote for Trump.


But I believe his campaign is going to target black males to try and get a certain percentage of black male vote. His team will do the same thing in the Hispanic community.

you already see it with the topics popping up on Fox News about “Dems Pandering for Boack votes”. His team isn’t sophisticated, and they don’t really care about the black vote, they just want to pick off numbers from a Dem candidate.

By the time Summer gets here the rhetoric from Trump, exclusively aimed at black men will pick up. They either want to steal votes or for you to stay home

NPR Choice page

nikkas gonna be taking selfies with them black Trump hats.

 

[Dr. Claw]

Wait, your knock on unkept promises is Obama promising a universal health care bill that he literally delivered on and which only had a diluted impact because conservatives blocked everything they could at every possible level and the courts ruled that red states didn't have to go along if they didn't want to?

And that Obama "did stuff you HBCUs"....how is that a knock on him?

What do you want at that point? Like what the fukk do you want if you consider someone delivering on his exact fukking promise, and only being blocked by racist state-level governments he has no control over, as some sort of "unkept promise"?



And those two moves by Obama (good but not nearly enough) are nowhere near comparable to what Bernie is running on. Bernie Sanders literally considered running a primary challenge on Obama cause he was concerned Obama wasn't doing enough for low-income folk.

You didn't answer the questions at all. Why is the Democrat Party going crazy trying to stop Bernie and talking like his programs will usher in an apocalypse if free tuition at HBCUs, increased funding for HBCUs, Medicare For All, a living wage, a Federal Jobs Guarantee, ending redlining and discrimination in banking, ending environmental racism, H.R. 40, and all the other shyt he's promising is meaningless and won't help nobody?

Why are Republicans AND Establishment Democrats talking like this is a game-changer and shook as fukk?

Right on.
Motherfukkers are mad because their bullshyt messaging don't work anymore. And everytime I see this concern trolling over Bernie's policy ideas, I have to ask "what are they protecting, what interest do they have in this shytty state of affairs".
Them nikkas let BLOOMBERG in. A REPUBLICAN, George W. Bush-supporting REPUBLICAN.

Worst part of this is watching black pundits/writers basically be the "white moderates" of which MLK spoke in blackface. Need to queue up that O'Bryan "c00n Train" song