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POLITICIAN 'Don't vote for the ching-chong!'
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It is time for blacks to wisen the fukk up. We are everybody’s friend but ain’t no one is our friend. And the resources are political power, money, minerals, living space/property, etc. Society is a crashing plane and we got to make sure our mask is on before we start worrying about others
I reall have nothing against anyone as an individual. Im sure, Ms Chang is right as rain and a great politician. But when I was reading this story, I felt the subtext was about black and Asian relations and I refuse for people to distort the truth about black mistreatment to feed a pop-liberalist agenda of “people of color” collectivism. I know many dope Asians and have enjoyed the company of many different cultures but I am also a realist. Scott shouldn’t have said what she said but non-blacks need to start getting checked for their distaste of blacks more often
There are all sorts of Asian people I can't stand either. But what does that have to do with Stephanie Chang?
Like half the people in the world are Asian. How many of them "stay doing vile shyt to blacks"? A lot of them, for sure. But not most - hell, most of them don't even know Black people, and some of them that do get along with the Black community just fine.
You gotta give out some incentive man. You want Asian people to "see us as people." But when one of them like Stephanie Chang DOES align with the Black community, you treat her like she a dog.
How is that going to help? If you racist against all of them, why will any of them feel like they should stop being racist against you? If you throw the ones who are acting just fine under the bus along with the ones who act racist, then what incentive does anyone have not to be racist?
Where you get "love Asians" from? We only talking about one person and I don't even love Stephanie Chang, I don't know her. I just don't see why she should get racial hate tossed out at her JUST because she got an Asian background. I ain't seen nothing that suggests that she ain't down with the Black community, and I won't judge her based off of someone else's actions.
Stephanie Chang is not Peter Liang. I looked it up right now and Stephanie Chang straight up said at an ASIAN AMERICAN STUDIES event at MSU that Akai Gurley should receive justice. Actually broke into tears while she was talking about it, and that wasn't in front of her Black constituents, that was in front of ASIAN folk.
I ain't confused. I just ain't no racist, against anyone. I ain't one of those fake coli militants who forget that W.E.B. DuBois and Marcus Garvey worked together with Gandhi, that MLK Jr. took White and Asian people into the movement so long as they stayed in their place, that even Malcolm X realized he had allies on the other side by the end of his life. It's just stupid to take that SAME racist bs that they created and then pretend like it's righteous.
"other races and and ethnicities" don't feel anything about you. How can a "race" feel something? PEOPLE feel something. And people are different. I ain't NEVER defended Asians as a "whole race." I came in and defended one Asian person. If you love people as much as they love you, then why the hate for Stephanie Chang, who married a Black man, represents a Black community, and ain't never done nothing to bring on hate?I seriously dont hate anyone but I am very aware of how other races and ethnicities feel about black people. For all of you in here scrambling to defend Asians as a whole race. Go to Asian forums and websites and see how they talk about us. Stop being obtuse or at the very least stop being dishonest about some we are the world shyt. I love people only as much as they love me
Do you actually know how "they" talk about Black people? All sorts of ways. I've met racist ones, I've met ones who were down, I've met ones who were naive or ignorant and I've met ones who I had some hope for. Hell, I know one racist Korean store owner in L.A. whose own DAUGHTER was down with the Black community and called out her own mom for being a racist. You can't never use one person's sins to tell you what's in another person's heart, you gotta see their heart for itself.
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Treat her like a dog? Saying some “mean” things is racist? Breh are you asian? You’re reaction to this isn’t typical lol. I’m about me and mines first. If that bothers you, that isn’t my problem.
Also Gandhi referred to blacks as Kaffirs on several occasions if I recall. Fukk him too. He was an opportunist.
And I’m not a militant. I’ve intermingled with Asians and quite a few are cool, but a lot are on some other shyt. If we’re going to excuse the “good” Asians, Arabs or Etc. Why don’t we excuse the good white people and throw out the idea of white privilege and only deal with racism on an individual level? Why not just totally Discard the way we’ve dealt with racism to make the “good” Asians, whites or Arabs to feel better? Your ideas actually appeal to me on an emotional level. But I view racism in a very cold, purely cerebral way. It (racism) will only end for blacks once they become as cut throat and black and white as other groups
And frankly breh, my distaste with this article is the way it framed black and Asian relations. It’s not a problem of both sides disliking each other mutually. It has been a long and one sided issue, that few will address because of the need to preserve a long dead culture of “people of color” collectivism. Asians generally hate blacks and one black person speakig on them negatively isn’t a problem of “racism”. Its her personal issue but when Asians dog on blacks we must Cape for them and be on some, “not all Asians are like that” shyt.
I hate no one and you can’t fix hate with hate but I’m a realist. You support those who supported you and you detach from those who’ve detached from you. I’m sure Stephanie is a dope person. But don’t frame this as a problem of “racism” and blacks disliking Asians. This is Scott’s problem. Black people need to wisen up and put themselves first.
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This was a good post. It's a shame that you're talking to a wall, though.
I’m not a Wall breh. Address me directly, if you’ve got issue with me. I’ve said my piece. Feel free to say yours or say nothing at all
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I ain't typical in my opinions, that's for sure. Damn proud of that too.
Gandhi WAS racist in his early life, up until about 1906 or so. What would you expect different from someone raised up in racist British schools in the 1800s? He was TAUGHT to think less of Black people. You want him to ingest some magic good-person pill where he understood that racism was wrong just naturally in the 1880s? He was more progressive than other Indians and certainly more than White people at the time but he was still ignorant regarding the folly of his own racism.
It took time and effort for Gandhi to stop being racist. He didn't really stop being racist until he saw the nobility and bravery of the Zulu people in war, read a book called Race Prejudice that was one of the early anti-racist books and convinced him that racism was wrong, and befriended Black South African freedom fighters like John Dube. By 1908 he was regularly corresponding with W.E.B. DuBois and Marcus Garvey, by 1911 he was setting up anti-racism conferences with DuBois, by the 1920s he was writing for African-American newsletters encouraging their freedom fight and telling his Indian audiences that he would refuse to ever partner with White Britain unless they supported freedom for their African colonies too. He straight up said that if Indians were to gain an advantage and get their rights in South Africa, but it came at the expense of Black people's rights, then Indians should give up that advantage. At the moment of his death every damn freedom fighter in Africa was calling him a hero and a role model to Black people, and they knew a LOT more regarding Gandhi's views towards Black people than you or I ever will.
Gandhi was anti-racist for the last 40 years of his life. People can change. And that's the whole point. Do you want people to change to become anti-racist like you, or do you think that we should change to become racist like them?
You gonna have to explain this better because it makes no sense to me.
What do you mean by "excuse" the "good" Asians/Arabs/etc. Excuse them for what? How you gonna excuse someone who ain't done nothing wrong?
And no, I am NOT talking about only dealing with racism on an individual level. If you ever seen any of my posts on here you know that I'm deep in the struggle and I'm certain the evil of White Supremacy is large and structural. But you don't fight evil by acting evil. How you gonna solve racism on the structural level by acting racist on the individual level?
Exactly! You support those who support you! So if she's supporting the Black community, then why not support her?
Hate on racist Asians all you want. But don't hate on some random Asian just because other Asians are racist. That's basically
for racism itself, saying that it's valid to judge their whole race by the actions of some of them just like the racist ones of them judge everyone else by the actions of a few. If it's wrong when they do it, why do you think it'll become a force for good when you do it?
As a politician she shouldn’t be saying this. You can be critical without resorting to slurs esp as a public figure and professional
If we call them Ching Chong what will they say next.
If we call them Ching Chong what will they say next.
I wasn’t able to rep this post but the bit on Gandhi is very interesting. I only ever read about how racist Gandhi isI ain't typical in my opinions, that's for sure. Damn proud of that too.
Gandhi WAS racist in his early life, up until about 1906 or so. What would you expect different from someone raised up in racist British schools in the 1800s? He was TAUGHT to think less of Black people. You want him to ingest some magic good-person pill where he understood that racism was wrong just naturally in the 1880s? He was more progressive than other Indians and certainly more than White people at the time but he was still ignorant regarding the folly of his own racism.
It took time and effort for Gandhi to stop being racist. He didn't really stop being racist until he saw the nobility and bravery of the Zulu people in war, read a book called Race Prejudice that was one of the early anti-racist books and convinced him that racism was wrong, and befriended Black South African freedom fighters like John Dube. By 1908 he was regularly corresponding with W.E.B. DuBois and Marcus Garvey, by 1911 he was setting up anti-racism conferences with DuBois, by the 1920s he was writing for African-American newsletters encouraging their freedom fight and telling his Indian audiences that he would refuse to ever partner with White Britain unless they supported freedom for their African colonies too. He straight up said that if Indians were to gain an advantage and get their rights in South Africa, but it came at the expense of Black people's rights, then Indians should give up that advantage. At the moment of his death every damn freedom fighter in Africa was calling him a hero and a role model to Black people, and they knew a LOT more regarding Gandhi's views towards Black people than you or I ever will.
Gandhi was anti-racist for the last 40 years of his life. People can change. And that's the whole point. Do you want people to change to become anti-racist like you, or do you think that we should change to become racist like them?
You gonna have to explain this better because it makes no sense to me.
What do you mean by "excuse" the "good" Asians/Arabs/etc. Excuse them for what? How you gonna excuse someone who ain't done nothing wrong?
And no, I am NOT talking about only dealing with racism on an individual level. If you ever seen any of my posts on here you know that I'm deep in the struggle and I'm certain the evil of White Supremacy is large and structural. But you don't fight evil by acting evil. How you gonna solve racism on the structural level by acting racist on the individual level?
Exactly! You support those who support you! So if she's supporting the Black community, then why not support her?
Hate on racist Asians all you want. But don't hate on some random Asian just because other Asians are racist. That's basically
shyt really is black st0rmfr0nt
I ain't typical in my opinions, that's for sure. Damn proud of that too.
Gandhi WAS racist in his early life, up until about 1906 or so. What would you expect different from someone raised up in racist British schools in the 1800s? He was TAUGHT to think less of Black people. You want him to ingest some magic good-person pill where he understood that racism was wrong just naturally in the 1880s? He was more progressive than other Indians and certainly more than White people at the time but he was still ignorant regarding the folly of his own racism.
It took time and effort for Gandhi to stop being racist. He didn't really stop being racist until he saw the nobility and bravery of the Zulu people in war, read a book called Race Prejudice that was one of the early anti-racist books and convinced him that racism was wrong, and befriended Black South African freedom fighters like John Dube. By 1908 he was regularly corresponding with W.E.B. DuBois and Marcus Garvey, by 1911 he was setting up anti-racism conferences with DuBois, by the 1920s he was writing for African-American newsletters encouraging their freedom fight and telling his Indian audiences that he would refuse to ever partner with White Britain unless they supported freedom for their African colonies too. He straight up said that if Indians were to gain an advantage and get their rights in South Africa, but it came at the expense of Black people's rights, then Indians should give up that advantage. At the moment of his death every damn freedom fighter in Africa was calling him a hero and a role model to Black people, and they knew a LOT more regarding Gandhi's views towards Black people than you or I ever will.
Gandhi was anti-racist for the last 40 years of his life. People can change. And that's the whole point. Do you want people to change to become anti-racist like you, or do you think that we should change to become racist like them?
You gonna have to explain this better because it makes no sense to me.
What do you mean by "excuse" the "good" Asians/Arabs/etc. Excuse them for what? How you gonna excuse someone who ain't done nothing wrong?
And no, I am NOT talking about only dealing with racism on an individual level. If you ever seen any of my posts on here you know that I'm deep in the struggle and I'm certain the evil of White Supremacy is large and structural. But you don't fight evil by acting evil. How you gonna solve racism on the structural level by acting racist on the individual level?
Exactly! You support those who support you! So if she's supporting the Black community, then why not support her?
Hate on racist Asians all you want. But don't hate on some random Asian just because other Asians are racist. That's basically
Like I said breh. Your ideas appeal to me on an emotional level. But it’s not practical to black empowerment to be on some bleeding heart shyt. And I read the post about Gandhi. That’s hienstly cool about him but Do racists get a pass because they are taught certain ideals? It’s not there fault after all, it’s their society’s fault. So they are excused? South Africans love Gandhi but in other parts of Africa, he has has statues taken down. I have a zero tolerance policy for anti black racism and so should all black people. Imagine if a black man had a statue built in India but it came out that once upon a time he had a low opinion of Indians. That statue would be pulled down with the quickness. Indians don’t play when it comes to their dignity but black people do. He changed and I get that. It’s great actually. Thanks for the new knowledge but I maintain that blacks should be as cut throat and selfish as other races.
Blacks will not win trying to play the role of morally righteous saints, that they have played for all too long. There was a breh here talking about how blacks should be socialists and Marxists before in the Root. That is frankly foolish. Everyone else is a staunch, blood thirsty capitalist who is looking out for themselves but blacks must be the kind humanitarians of the human race? This is a foolish ideology and purely performative in nature for blacks to promote. We must play the game of the conquerer to defeat the conquerer. It’s like when Michelle said when they go low, we go high. That is an emotionalism platitude that only works in movies. Blacks must be what they claim to hate, to create a better future for ourselves. It sucks but life sucks in general. We must play the game of the conquerer to beat the conquerer.
And you are doing too much breh. Talking about me treating Chang like a dog and telling me I’m caping for racism. I really don’t hate Asians. I don’t care about them and they don’t care about me. It’s deeper than a dislike of Asians. It’s a Look at how blacks must interact with non-blacks. We gain nothing from being unnecessarily nice. As stated previously, Chang is probably a dope person. Idc about her or how good of a person she is, this about the framing of Scott’s words as some issue in the relationship between blacks and Asians. And there is an issue between blacks and Asians and the issue isn’t black people. Again, your words appeal to me on an emotional level but the world works differently
