Pippen's passing and footwork were underrated

[Chrishaune]

On a nightly basis

Player A gave you 30 6 and 6

Player B gave you 18 7 and 7.

In what universe is that considered almost equal

include the shot attempts with those #s


Jordan got #1 shot attempts - 23.3

Pippen got less - 14.5



So it averages out to about 1.29 points per attempt for Jordan and 1.24 points per attempt for Pippen.

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

I don't agree but I respect it personally I'd even take a heathy penny over pip

With all due respect, I never understand when people say .."ill take a healthy..." you cant X health out of the equation. The old saying goes, the best ability is availability and if you always hurt, how are you helping your team

 

[NigerianDonDada]

 

[Techniec]

He wasn't better than Pierce. FOH

 

[fifth column]

Pippen was no where as good as MJ at anything. If Pippen had to shoulder MJ's scoring load he wouldn't be as good defensively and still MJ was has good defensively. Pippen lacked the intangibles that made MJ so great

 

[Hey_zeus]

Best perimeter defender of all time.
Most underrated player of his era.
My personal GOAT

 

[CJ14]

Everybody has their opinion......Nobody can prove anything when talking hypothetically. If we could have seen Jordan and Pippen face off 1-on-1 in their prime we could talk something. But we didn't and can't, so opinions it is.

I agree about having different opinions but calling them almost equal is pretty far out there... Now has there been games or a playoff series where Scottie was on equal footing (or even better) than Jordan? Ofcourse... but looking at a full season or a full playoff run, In my mind, it's ridiculous to call them even close to equal... To me (and almost all other basketball heads from the 80s and 90's) MJ was head and shoulders above Scottie and that's not to shlt on him, It's just Jordan was just on another level compared to the rest of the league...

Listen, I like Pippen, it does bother me when people shlt on him and underrate him and i think he was one of the most complete players of all time but if you look at his stats from 94 and 95 you'll see that they didn't change much from the earlier or later seasons when jordan was there... and i'm not just talking about points here; assists, rebounds, etc... He is an amazing player who benefited greatly from playing with MJ and while most people argue that it's because of MJ that he often gets overlooked and underrated, i would say that without Jordan, he would have actually been less famous and even more underrated and would've been seen as just another pretty good player in the 90s... (which isn't true and i don't agree with btw)...

 

[Swagnificent]

On a nightly basis

Player A gave you 30 6 and 6

Player B gave you 18 7 and 7.

In what universe is that considered almost equal

In this universe where we watched them play night in and night out. Pippen did a lot of shyt that never showed up in the stat sheet. He also did most of the dirty work Jordan didn't wanna do cause he wanted the glory.

Also you are mixing up the 1st three-peat vs the 2nd three-peat. Jordan was clearly better during the 1st three-peat cause he was at his absolute prime. During the 2nd three-peat he was more mortal which is when Pippen was neck and neck with him. Pippen was in his prime during that 94-97 stretch while Jordan was leaving his prime.

 

[Swagnificent]

Let's not go to far breh.

Pippen at no point in his career was going to put up 30+/6+/6+ for entire seasons. The sheer scoring prowess is something that pulls MJ way over the top.

I will agree that during the mid-90's, the only player seeing Pippen as an all-around player was Grant Hill.

So what? Pippen would give you 23/8/7 with all-time great defense. He would also give you a more versatile game that could compliment other dominant players.

You guys care too much about stats. The game is a lot deeper than that. Pippen's game did not require him to score a lot. He was more like LeBron without the bulldozing tactics to the rim.

 

[Swagnificent]

Terrible analogy. Pierce can do more than just score. Pierce was one of the most complete players ever. Pippen was better denfensively.. that's it.

I would suggest you shut the fukk up right now cause this is not even worthy of discussion.

Pippen is light years ahead of that fat fukk Paul Pierce at every facet of basketball outside of scoring.

 

[Swagnificent]

How high do you rank the glove during that time I personally think he was the best pg of the 90's

2nd best PG of the 90s. I gotta go with Penny at the #1 spot. Penny's reign was short but IMO he's clearly better than Payton so I gotta give him the nod. Stockton was mad overrated so I got GP clearly ahead of him. Kidd was a lil too young to get consideration back then.

 

[bucks3115]

And we like to talk about players who have styles of play that are "easy on the eyes". Well, the top 4 small forwards I've seen in my lifetime that fit that criteria are Pippen, Bird, Durant, and Worthy

Even though lebron n durant are better than pippen

But pippen footwork was on another level

 

[bucks3115]

I would suggest you shut the fukk up right now cause this is not even worthy of discussion.

Pippen is light years ahead of that fat fukk Paul Pierce at every facet of basketball outside of scoring.

Correct
Pippen way better than pierce

 

[MoneyTron]

So what? Pippen would give you 23/8/7 with all-time great defense. He would also give you a more versatile game that could compliment other dominant players.

You guys care too much about stats. The game is a lot deeper than that. Pippen's game did not require him to score a lot. He was more like LeBron without the bulldozing tactics to the rim.

What do you mean so what? I know Pippen could do you dolt.

He said he was equal to Jordan. He wasn't. Period.

 

[Swagnificent]

What do you mean so what? I know Pippen could do you dolt.

He said he was equal to Jordan. He wasn't. Period.

During the 2nd three-peat they essentially were. Jordan was still better but not by much.