Pippen just said he could average 40 in this era

[Houston911]

Pippen would have ZERO shot at averaging 40

Stop

 

[Pimp]

Pippen would need more FTs than that because he only shot 70% at the line to Harden's 89% this season. Also, FT% is a major predictor of 3pt% at high volume and being a 70% FT shooter (10% lower than Westbrook btw) isn't a good indicator for him shooting Harden's volume of contested threes.

Yea but maybe in this era he would work on that part of his game. FT% has nothing to do with 3 pt% Westbrook always sucked from 3 but he use to shoot like 84% from the line..

 

[DonKnock]

Yea but maybe in this era he would work on that part of his game. FT% has nothing to do with 3 pt% Westbrook always sucked from 3 but he use to shoot like 84% from the line..

Who’s the best 3 pt shooter you know that shoots below 80% FT

 

[Shadow King]

With the increased amount not possessions and a greenlight Pippen can hit 27-28 PPG. 40 is foolishness.

 

[SadimirPutin]

I dont blame him for believing that

He is just like most of the other delusional retired nba players who get on television and spit nonsense that is gobbled by suckers and nostalgic marks

What makes him saying this more outlandish than any of the other buffoonery that gets propagated

 

[rapbeats]

Pip is my favorite player of all time....but he clownin

He could do 26/8/7 type numbers....

he was averaging 22 or so when mike was playing baseball and doing so shooting 49% from the field and barely shooting any 3's. in the area of grab em, hold em defense. now teleport the same prime pip into this era where there is little to no holding and grabbing by most defenders. and throw in the fact that every single team in the nba is running pick and rolls all the time to free guys up so that no one can actually guard anyone 1 vs 1 anymore. Pip would be on the break like crazy, pip would be in the mid to low post(he had this game), pip would drive to to the paint, and he would slash without the ball. yes, prime pip could drop 30 in this era. 40? probably not because thats not in his nature to do that.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I dont blame him for believing that

He is just like most of the other delusional retired nba players who get on television and spit nonsense that is gobbled by suckers and nostalgic marks

What makes him saying this more outlandish than any of the other buffoonery that gets propagated

It's the problem with this board.

Genuine discourse around players from the past is interrupted by folks' mental recoil. It's hard for them to take what happened in the past, in its exact context, without magnifying their abilities. As I've said many a time, they treat the game as some comic-book shyt, where players from the past are these superheroes whose depictions are absent from anything that exists in reality. I mean, how are you supposed to make folks see sense when they don't acknowledge reality....

 

[Greenhornet]

easily if he was in hardens position ... anyone could drop 40 a game if they controlled the ball 70% of the game

Pippens top PPG was 22 ... so I could see him easily dropping 32-34 ppg in his prime on a team alone with no handchecking

40 would be pushing it, but like I said... Harden isnt really playing the game like 99% of everyone else. He can iso and do what he wants all game, for better or worse.

 

[010101]

easily if he was in hardens position ... anyone could drop 40 a game if they controlled the ball 70% of the game

Pippens top PPG was 22 ... so I could see him easily dropping 32-34 ppg in his prime on a team alone with no handchecking

40 would be pushing it, but like I said... Harden isnt really playing the game like 99% of everyone else. He can iso and do what he wants all game, for better or worse.

pip ain't getting 40 even controlling the offense

99.9% of everyone in the league can't create out isolation on that level

if it was that easy every team would just put the ball in their stars hands & rock out to a winning record ha

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[Greenhornet]

pip ain't getting 40 even controlling the offense

99.9% of everyone in the league can't create out isolation on that level

if it was that easy every team would just put the ball in their stars hands & rock out to a winning record ha

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if every team did that, how could every team have a winning record?
I'll say what you were too nice to say.... Pippen aint the greatest Iso player.

I'm a Nash fan, he's my favorite player. So ive witnessed D'antoni basketball forever... this isnt just a question for you but for everyone
If Melo was coached by D'antoni in his prime, could he average 40?

all this is loaded questions after you add circumstance... because if Nash could shoot at will... he could easily go off too.. but then people would say his percentage was trash and what not
Harden is without question in a position to do whatever he wants with the ball for the entire game... you cant really quantify his production compared to anyone else. Maybe just Kobe was on that level
Imagine Durant being able to Iso every play of every game and surrounded by shooters and centers who roll for him.

 

[FabTrey]

i dont see 40, but I see 30/10/8

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Because players actually close out and pressure jump shots now. I already pointed this out, with receipts - players were FAR more open in his era than they are today.

Another thing y'all keep ignoring is that PIppen had to play 38-39 minutes/ game to get those stats. In today's game they're going a lot harder and NO ONE plays those minutes. Y'all keep selectively ignoring that he would only play 34 minutes/game or so, which completely wipes out the pace difference.

so not only is this era producing the most free flowing and efficient offenses in league history, that has pudgy Slavic teenagers producing the most impressive offensive production EVER (with the rules and officiating tailored to that end)...but also simultaneously has henceforth unseen shot contest defense that would pretty much all but stifle an all time great’s game despite him being pretty much the prototype multi-tooled 6’8 2-way player that’d thrive in today’s postionless game ...all the variables that benefit scoring wouldn’t apply to him...and all the ones we can conjure up to hurt his scoring specifically, do?

the sweltering defense being played today and the fact that players just play really harder than they did in the mid 90s would make just negate any potential increase in production to be had from a dozen extra possessions and the red light to just monopolize every trip down the court? Mind he’d be all on ball and have a screen every possession, but that shot contest is bottling him up

aiight man, you got it...I just disagree

 

[010101]

if every team did that, how could every team have a winning record?
I'll say what you were too nice to say.... Pippen aint the greatest Iso player.

I'm a Nash fan, he's my favorite player. So ive witnessed D'antoni basketball forever... this isnt just a question for you but for everyone
If Melo was coached by D'antoni in his prime, could he average 40?

all this is loaded questions after you add circumstance... because if Nash could shoot at will... he could easily go off too.. but then people would say his percentage was trash and what not
Harden is without question in a position to do whatever he wants with the ball for the entire game... you cant really quantify his production compared to anyone else. Maybe just Kobe was on that level
Imagine Durant being able to Iso every play of every game and surrounded by shooters and centers who roll for him.

how do the rockets get to a winning record¿

if other players could do it better then the cream would simply rise to the top

nash ain't killing out of isolation

& melo did have pringles when he was still in his prime

kobe could average 40 now he'd most likely substitute more to the rim buckets for deep threes

kd could but with the right point.gawd cause he's unreal with the handle & skills for a seven footer but still he's not a point.gawd combo guard to pick out dimes keep the offense rolling etcetera

& the aspect most miss is durability like i said bron the only other player that could replicate it if he chose to season after season without breaking down

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[GilSho]

It's funny how these dudes are claiming if anyone shoots 14 3's they can do it. As if those shots are going to be wide open or some shyt.

Those were the type of shots Harden routinely takes. Off the dribble, tightly contested, hand in your fukking face. No one is going to get open set shots with that usage.

Pippen isn't making those type of shots. No chance.

 

[010101]

It's funny how these dudes are claiming if anyone shoots 14 3's they can do it. As if those shots are going to be wide open or some shyt.

Those were the type of shots Harden routinely takes. Off the dribble, tightly contested, hand in your fukking face. No one is going to get open set shots with that usage.

Pippen isn't making those type of shots. No chance.

man is far & away making the most tightly contested deep shots off the bounce

plenty 4point.plays too

everyone is free to hate what but what son is doing is unique ha

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