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ghostwriterx

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Yes, he has more innings. Assuming Kershaw throws tomorrow, I'm guessing he'll finish with 7-8 more innings on the season....or about 1 start. Certainly worth something, but it's not a huge number. And yes, he has more strikeouts...but Kershaw has the higher K/9 and K%. And the lower WHIP. So it's very, very close.

And for those people who loved the "September games mean more" angle, Kershaw has a 1.74 ERA in his last 8 starts with the Dodgers battling to stay in contention (.67 in his last 4). This would be the only time I agree with this line of reasoning though...when things are otherwise incredibly close.

But, like I said...it's there is no wrong answer.


....as for the bolded. Here are some facts for you.

R.A. dikkey left 9 runners on base this year when he left games. The Mets bullpen allowed 3 of them to score.

Clayton Kershaw also left 9 runners on base this year when he left games. The Dodgers bullpen allowed 6 of them to score.


OK, so dikkey now has had more offensive support and his bullpen has performed better. Next argument?


This clinches it for me... well I'm a Mets fan so I didn't need this but still.
New York Mets' R.A. dikkey pitched most of season with torn muscle in side - ESPN New York

:wow:

with that said, agreed its close and can't really argue against Kershaw.
 
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Why? Hard to get that production from a solid/good 2B.

hard to explain. Statistically he's on par with last season if not better, but everyone who watches him here feels like he took a step back simply because he's not nearly as good with RISP and against lefties as he was a year ago
 

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I refuse to believe you're this stupid.

Breh your whole argument beyond WAR and defense has been feminine and circular and whats worse is you dont read evidently because i dont even care i dont have a horse in this race..my whole point from the beginning was i believe he had as good a case based on his season IMO...hes the best hitter in baseball...

I dont believe in traditional stats alone to make a case i agree that being in the playoffs is irrelevant to the discussion because of the nature of the sport...

After the WAR and defense rambles alot of the points made been sh1tty :manny:
 

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First, my argument is not based on WAR. It's based on evaluating a players FULL contribution to his team...not just comparing them as hitters.

You only think it's circular because you don't understand what that means and are a functioning illiterate.

You keep responding to my COUNTERARGUMENTS like they're my arguments...which is assbackwards.

If someone says "Cabrera should be MVP because the Tigers are in the playoffs" and I say "they're only in the playoffs because they play in an inferior division"....that is NOT the same as me saying "Cabrera shouldn't be MVP because the Tigers play in an inferior division."

This is pretty simple stuff. Try to keep up.
 

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First, my argument is not based on WAR. It's based on evaluating a players FULL contribution to his team...not just comparing them as hitters.

You only think it's circular because you don't understand what that means and are a functioning illiterate.

You keep responding to my COUNTERARGUMENTS like they're my arguments...which is assbackwards.

If someone says "Cabrera should be MVP because the Tigers are in the playoffs" and I say "they're only in the playoffs because they play in an inferior division"....that is NOT the same as me saying "Cabrera shouldn't be MVP because the Tigers play in an inferior division."

This is pretty simple stuff. Try to keep up.

I was replying to the sh1tty counter argument...I seen other poster mentioned about the playoffs which was dumb as well...
 

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But you failed to understand that it was .......... you know what, fukk this. It's not worth explaining.
 

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MVP = Yadier Molina
CY = R.A. dikkey
ROTY = Todd Frazier
MOTY = Davey Johnson

AL
MVP = Miguel Cabrera
CY = Justin Verlander
ROTY = Mike Trout
MOTY = Buck Showalter
 

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Zito actually had a good season :whoo:

it wasnt good, he just won more games than ever as a giant...otherwise it wasnt godawful but thats about it 4.20 era, 1.40 whip .263 baa....mediocre as hell, but I guess not terrible for a #5
 

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Mike who?
 

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Kershaw winning it with 13 wins :mjpls: even with the fact that we've moved away from wins being the end all-be all, I didn't think Felix should've won it a few years back either.
 
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