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That was not a double foul but...


@ZemaPromos Do not come in here saying the refs lost that game...

We are putting no effort for the first 2 quarters. Effort is all I ever fukking ask for as a fan.

I have to apologize to Tyson and Felton...I thought they were the culprits...but honestly there is a cancer in that fukking locker room. There is a philosophy of not putting up enough effort for games...it's bullshyt.
I know you're not defending Raymundo Felton? :sas?:

We just don't have enough talent on that side of the ball.
 

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The triangle is working...even for this shytty team

That Defense on the other hand + Derek Fishers inability to rally the team in the 2nd half, his shytty rotations, and overall not giving clear cut instructions with the game on the line under 1 minute
 
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That was not a double foul but...


@ZemaPromos Do not come in here saying the refs lost that game...


We are putting no effort for the first 2 quarters. Effort is all I ever fukking ask for as a fan.

I have to apologize to Tyson and Felton...I thought they were the culprits...but honestly there is a cancer in that fukking locker room. There is a philosophy of not putting up enough effort for games...it's bullshyt.

While I agree the cancer is not done (Get that trade value up JR) don't apologize to Rayton McFatton
 

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tim hardaway is a idiot
no way we shoulda lost this game
page out of the vintage knicks
get down early, make a exciting rally, lose anyway

our defense(calderon) and energy( bargs) might actually get worse when these guys come back:snoop:
 

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That was not a double foul but...


@ZemaPromos Do not come in here saying the refs lost that game...


We are putting no effort for the first 2 quarters. Effort is all I ever fukking ask for as a fan.

I have to apologize to Tyson and Felton...I thought they were the culprits...but honestly there is a cancer in that fukking locker room. There is a philosophy of not putting up enough effort for games...it's bullshyt.
dont apologize to either of em
chandler didnt wanna be here anymore
all he did was cry, point fingers and complain
he never recovered from that roy hibbert embarassment and he'll never recover from his aids cause theres no cure

felton just had a HORRIBLE and inexcusable season
overall he did okay for the knicks, but last year was unforgivable
 

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Defending? Hell no.

But I thought effort was a problem fostered by Felton, Tyson & Woody...but there is still some of the cancer left...but who...
They can't play defense. There's nothing you can do about that no matter how hard they try. And from what I heard, everyone in the locker room is on good terms.
 

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They can't play defense. There's nothing you can do about that no matter how hard they try. And from what I heard, everyone in the locker room is on good terms.
What I'm saying is... that last quarter was intense team defense...which frustrated the bucks...why can't they play that all game.
 

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tim hardaway is a idiot
no way we shoulda lost this game
page out of the vintage knicks
get down early, make a exciting rally, lose anyway

our defense(calderon) and energy( bargs) might actually get worse when these guys come back:snoop:
No way we should have lost??? :what:
 

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What I'm saying is... that last quarter was intense team defense...which frustrated the bucks...why can't they play that all game.

I don't think the knicks have the personnel for it. Way to many players aren't two way players on the roster so when you get quarters where guys who rarely do both put in that effort to play both sides of the ball the knicks get great results. But its far from a guarantee.

Anyhow like I said I refuse to get mad. Shump is developing into a reliable 2 way player. TImmy still has a sign on his back to guards that says "attack me, I will foul" but fukk it at least he can score and build value that way. and the knicks have their pick.... So even when they lose..... they are building towards their future.
 

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Defending? Hell no.

But I thought effort was a problem fostered by Felton, Tyson & Woody...but there is still some of the cancer left...but who...

No "cancer" made Dalembert, Swish, Larkin, and Pablo put up poor rebounding numbers. Most of them are usually good rebounders. NY needed those rebounds. NY is 9th in rpg. NY is 12th in 2nd chance point defense. They gave up 17 last night (this was the equivalent of giving the Bucks half of the points they missed back to them). More than anything, NY is 1st in pitp defense and they gave up 48 last night. NY is also 4th in fbp defense and they gave up 13 last night. NY rarely gives up the amount of points they gave up. They are 16th in ppg defense (just below average). All these things are very uncharacteristic of them. Off nights happen. The Bucks had an off night defending too. The Bucks rarely give up the amount of points they gave up.

What I'm saying is... that last quarter was intense team defense...which frustrated the bucks...why can't they play that all game.

Same reason why the Bucks (a good defensive team) was inconsistent tonight on defense. It happens. They certainly didn't win because they gave more effort than NY. NY usually gives plenty of effort. They are:

1st in opp pitp
6th in opp fg% at the rim
6th in opp fga's at the rim
4th in opp fbps
9th in rpg
12th in opp 2nd chance points
16th in opp ppg (just below average)
17th in opp rpg (just below average)

All this while learning a new defensive system (not just a new offense). Both teams are capable of defending better than they did tonight. They could've used Acy's rebounding.
 
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I don't think the knicks have the personnel for it. Way to many players aren't two way players on the roster so when you get quarters where guys who rarely do both put in that effort to play both sides of the ball the knicks get great results. But its far from a guarantee.

Anyhow like I said I refuse to get mad. Shump is developing into a reliable 2 way player. TImmy still has a sign on his back to guards that says "attack me, I will foul" but fukk it at least he can score and build value that way. and the knicks have their pick.... So even when they lose..... they are building towards their future.

Why couldn't they just have an off night defending, like the Bucks did? Neither usually gives up all those points, especially to teams that struggle to score (which is both teams — NY struggles to score even more than the Bucks do, but it does seem like NY is turning that around, which should translate into more wins). They could've used Acy's rebounding.
 
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