Philip Seymour Hoffman deserves like 95% of the credit of saving The Mission Impossible Franchise...

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MI 3 is overrated
The first MI was the best one IMO. I remember it getting a flack when it was released
 

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MI 2 sucked

3 definitely brought it back
MI2 was one of the first Matrix rip offs. IT was an awful film and its a shame because Thandie was looking immaculate in it.

MI3 definitely grounded the franchise again, but MI4 made it a must watch.
 

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Nah... Mission Impossible was on its deathbed after 2 being trash by fans and Tom Cruise was at the lowest point of his career with all of his drama. You see it the affect of 2 in the huge box office dip of 3. 3 turned the franchise around and they strike while the iron was hot with 4.
MI:2 was box office smasv.
Nowhere xlose to a career low point.

Cruise hasnt hit a slump commercially since his Mummy movie.
 

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MI:2 was box office smasv.
Nowhere xlose to a career low point.

Cruise hasnt hit a slump commercially since his Mummy movie.
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Outside of his Mission Impossible movies, Cruise don't have that many box office smashes since the aughts. Jack Reacher is his only major financially successful movie.
 

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Outside of his Mission Impossible movies, Cruise don't have that many box office smashes since the aughts. Jack Reacher is his only major financially successful movie.
From what I remember he makes big money with worldwide grosses, his production company had a big cut of money coming out of China compared to others.
 

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From what I remember he makes big money with worldwide grosses, his production company had a big cut of money coming out of China compared to others.
You can look at the numbers, the worldwide figures are included. Its not there.

Cruise is my crazy white man too, but its not there.
 

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You can look at the numbers, the worldwide figures are included. Its not there.

Cruise is my crazy white man too, but its not there.
I'm looking at boxofficemojo now, outside of the Mummy and Oblivion, compared to his budgets he has been pretty consistent and successful
MI series are his blockbusters, but he is getting basse hits.
 

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I'm looking at boxofficemojo now, outside of the Mummy and Oblivion, compared to his budgets he has been pretty consistent and successful
MI series are his blockbusters, but he is getting basse hits.
Gotta do at least double to be a smash due to marketing. Its not there.
 

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Love the Hoff. He would have been dope as a Batman villain. Maaan imagine him as the penguin.
 

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Great actor and probably the best villain in the series but MI still the high point of the franchise. De Palma killed it, one of his best. The way it subverted genre tropes and expectations, and even Tom Cruise's acting.



masterclass in editing here too and that score. Whew. Ethan knows this son of a bytch is the traitor, so he's playing it back in his head but not letting it up while still asking him point blank, why. Good shyt.

Here's a really good video essay that was done on the franchise for Grantland, its only 13 minutes long, writer talks fast but it's good:

(think it came out before fallout though so thats not covered but still good)
 
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