Pharrell's Views On Race Sends Twitter Into An Uproar

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I know there was some rapper that recently spoke out against the violence in our neighborhoods. I forgot who it was but I think it was for a joint conference for trayvon martin and some other kid that got shot.
yeah but the violence in urban communities is a microcosm of poverty...
 

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yeah but the violence in urban communities is a microcosm of poverty...
Ok so then the logical conclusion is to then address issues that are leading to so many of us being in poverty. Is this just a perpetual cycle that can never end unless the white man gives us reparations?
 

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I understand what he means. Racism will always exist but I've learned to see past that shyt so it doesn't affect me. :manny:

Of course it helps if you have money. For example, cop pulls me over on some profiling shyt? No problem, all my docs are in order. But if your don't have insurance and your registration is expired, that's an invitation for them to fukk with you. I'm sure Pharrell doesn't have to deal with stuff like that.

We do need to stop playing the victim though. Expecting people to look down on us. That's fakkit shyt. Literally. fakkits always feel like "the world is against them" because they're gay when in reality, most people don't give a fukk.

People can look at my skin and think whatever they want. Thoughts never hurt anybody. Unless I take those thoughts to heart and reduce myself to their image of me. No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
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Ok so then the logical conclusion is to then address issues that are leading to so many of us being in poverty. Is this just a perpetual cycle that can never end unless the white man gives us reparations?
Nah bro, I believe its cultural and we need to focus on academic, economic, and political progress...

But it's simply disingenuous to ignore the prior systematic oppression, more importantly laws put into place which handicapped black progress
 

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I'm not taking responsibility because I'm saying the same facts over and over and you're tired of hearing it repeated? that somehow equals me not taking responsibility?

:patrice:

Once again, people can place the blame with the people actually responsible and STILL improve their own situation, it's not a "one or the other" situation. I know you're tired of hearing about "the white man", and that's cool, but one thing that's certain is, we wouldn't be hearing about "the white man" if our communities and people weren't intentionally destroyed by "the white man".

:manny:
Your right I'm probably just tired of hearing it and yes people can blame people and still improve their own situation but it usually don't go that way so I don't focus on that. I go by the norm of how I see it usually happen not outlier situations but props to those outliers. I don't think that's productive and see most people that complain about why they aren't where they could be and where they are at ill keep going against that model of doing business. Everybody else can continue doing it their way and we will see who wins at the end I guess.
 

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Nah bro, I believe its cultural and we need to focus on academic, economic, and political progress...

But it's simply disingenuous to ignore the prior systematic oppression, more importantly laws put into place which handicapped black progress
I can agree with all you said in the second sentence but how long is that the goto reason for lack of movement in 2014 and beyond though? Think about something that isn't race related how often would you allow somebody to tell you the same thing over and over and over before you say ok now how do we move on without bringing up the past negatives we already know about?
 

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I can agree with all you said in the second sentence but how long is that the goto reason for lack of movement in 2014 and beyond though? Think about something that isn't race related how often would you allow somebody to tell you the same thing over and over and over before you say ok now how do we move on without bringing up the past negatives we already know about?
That's not the go to message, but the lack of movement and cultural aspect are intertwined as generations of African Americans post slavery were disfranchised and virtually, psychologically and physiologically victimized, thus hindering their production of economic progress and limited in their scope of education. This essentially trickles to down to what see today, in the AA community, as so few see the value of completing / following through with educating, vs blindly joining / supporting a system which exploits their labor...
 

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thats whats been happening the last 10-20 yrs. :wow:


well yeah, 400 years of slavery, jim crow, and continued institutionalized racism will do that to a people. the 'black people" with the highest self esteem tend to be children of caribbean decent and half breeds, cuz their dynamic and relationship to the plight of the negro in america is somewhat skewed. when your family comes to america on their own volition, you will have a completely different view on the places, BUT sometimes if you are here long enough your view changes to be inline with the black people who have deep family roots here. :manny:
yeah i noticed this. the last woman i dated wasn't from here, but moved from trinidad when she was 16. west indians have in my experience, a different outlook on life in general.
 

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yeah i noticed this. the last woman i dated wasn't from here, but moved from trinidad when she was 16. west indians have in my experience, a different outlook on life in general.
if you were to poll the dudes in here semi cosigning pharrel/rationalizing the shyt/ or whatever, are majority of caribbean descent and or on the west coast :mjpls: only reason i can tell is i'm of caribbean descent and have paid attention over the years.
 

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:snoop: Dawg is the early 2000s? Or did you stop listening to black music way back like
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I listen to black music, I just don't listen to this abomination of hip hop culture called rap music

I'm rediscovering the masters, I just brought Nina Simone and al green albums, I'm tryna figure out where we went wrong
 

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I listen to black music, I just don't listen to this abomination of hip hop culture called rap music

I'm rediscovering the masters, I just brought Nina Simone and al green albums, I'm tryna figure out where we went wrong
Southern Rap. :mjpls:

Master P lit the torch, and Cash Money ran with it. The rest is history.
 

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But it's simply disingenuous to ignore the prior systematic oppression, more importantly laws put into place which handicapped black progress
I'm not ignoring it, I just think it needs to be put on the back burner since we have more important issues to face that we can fix ourselves.
 

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I'm not ignoring it, I just think it needs to be put on the back burner since we have more important issues to face that we can fix ourselves.
very true. dwelling on the past in any issue of life helps nobody. regardless of the issue, you can't get ahead when you're looking backwards
 
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