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I dont think history teaches us that those in power will give it up willingly...

...hitting reset isnt anarchy.
In your words, govt is the problem, and there is no way to fix govt as it trends towards absolute power. So what solution is there for your problem that doesn't involve getting rid of the govt?
 

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In your words, govt is the problem, and there is no way to fix govt as it trends towards absolute power. So what solution is there for your problem that doesn't involve getting rid of the govt?

Electing politicians that reject corporatism.:yeshrug:

The problem with that is that so few understand what corporatism is and how it works. Add that to a rampant zero sum fallacy, racial divide and you're looking at an impossible task.
 

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Attaching pay to production/merit and competition isnt satanic :dahell:Lets not let our emotions get the best of us here.
where does that leave peter shiff, he's not at the top of his competition either lol. He's not thinking about what he is saying.
 

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Govt= the problem

Politicians = the govt

So how can politicians = the solution? If the framework is the problem, you can't fix the problem through the framework.

You asked how it could be done without "getting rid of govt", that's how.

The real problem there lies in the people. No one who told the truth about our situation, and what it is going to take has a chance against some one promising jobs and other handouts...
This is one of the many ways in which democracy can fail.

:yeshrug:
 

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Dont leave off the trade off i'm willing to accept of bigger safety nets :umad:


Sure, but in practice its an issue of force. Something I believe to be immoral.
I know many here see force as great, and morally sound. So I wont harp on that. Just know that it isnt.:usure:

Let me put it this way, if there was a opt out of govt. policies I would have no complaints.

edit: how does freedom "actually" work?

Lets hear some ANSWERS from you.

What SOLUTIONS do you have?

You lack altruism and a concept of community.
 

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You asked how it could be done without "getting rid of govt", that's how.

The real problem there lies in the people. No one who told the truth about our situation, and what it is going to take has a chance against some one promising jobs and other handouts...
This is one of the many ways in which democracy can fail.

:yeshrug:

What the ENTIRE fukk does this sophistry mean?

Its like you just come up with this word soup devoid of any content then post it like people aren't going to read it. :heh:

Is this a serious attempt at posing an argument? :rudy:
 

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You asked how it could be done without "getting rid of govt", that's how.

The real problem there lies in the people. No one who told the truth about our situation, and what it is going to take has a chance against some one promising jobs and other handouts...
This is one of the many ways in which democracy can fail.

:yeshrug:
Democracy is doomed to fail, because in your own words govt's "track record leaves little room for such optimism" and it won't "facilitate the change we want under any scenario", which is why you "oppose them at every turn." Every scenario includes "electing politicians that reject corporatism".
 

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Lets hear some ANSWERS from you.

What SOLUTIONS do you have?

You lack altruism and a concept of community.


Switch to a negative tax
Remove min wage
End all subsidies
Drastically reduce military spending
End the wars
Reduce regulation(not zero regulation)
Remove ACA mandate
Suspend foreign aid
Open the borders and grant amnesty
Privatize education
Remove all corporate privilege
 

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Democracy is doomed to fail, because in your own words govt's "track record leaves little room for such optimism" and it won't "facilitate the change we want under any scenario", which is why you "oppose them at every turn." Every scenario includes "electing politicians that reject corporatism".
Except for the violent ones.
 

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What the ENTIRE fukk does this sophistry mean?

Its like you just come up with this word soup devoid of any content then post it like people aren't going to read it. :heh:

Is this a serious attempt at posing an argument? :rudy:
I can't believe I'm gonna say this but i agree with him :(
PEOPLE are the problem. No on wants to hear bad shyt or face reality. As a community of people things need to change. We can't elect government officials to fix government officials until we fix the people electing in the first place.

IMHO that's why it's impossible.

Think back to middle school student body elections. Everyone votes for the guy promising no homework and icecream for lunch, meanwhile the dude with the plan to help raise GPA's and address the PE teacher's creepy "wrestling" matches in the locker room get's the stink face.

As a country we jumped the shark a long time ago.
 

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Switch to a negative tax
Why?
Remove min wage
COMPLETELY?

Alright. If you want to be an absolute dikk.
End all subsidies
OK. Then watch American businesses fail
Drastically reduce military spending
What does this mean?
End the wars
OK
Reduce regulation(not zero regulation)
Vague and imprecise.
Remove ACA mandate
And replace it with what? The previously worse system?
Suspend foreign aid
I disagree. You don't see the benefit in supporting foreign activity.
Open the borders and grant amnesty
COMPLETELY Open?

No.
Privatize education
Wait what? Why the fukk would this be a good idea????
Remove all corporate privilege

What does this mean?
 

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I can't believe I'm gonna say this but i agree with him :(
PEOPLE are the problem. No on wants to hear bad shyt or face reality. As a community of people things need to change. We can't elect government officials to fix government officials until we fix the people electing in the first place.

IMHO that's why it's impossible.

Think back to middle school student body elections. Everyone votes for the guy promising no homework and icecream for lunch, meanwhile the dude with the plan to help raise GPA's and address the PE teacher's creepy "wrestling" matches in the locker room get's the stink face.

As a country we jumped the shark a long time ago.

I literally don't know what you're suggesting.
 
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