Pete Hines is leaving Bethesda

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There is no Bethesda anymore it's all microsoft now...:francis: these people don't own the company no more...they got golden parachutes especially todd...
 

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I keep saying it, when a company gets bought out, that's usually it. In many cases, their fire ain't the same any more. Especially when they're an older company - it's basically one big final payout.

The cats who were working there initially get paid and dip. Now you're left with a skeleton company where all the innovation that was once there are now gone and you just got a bunch of new faces without the gift that made the company great.

You can hire a lot of new, young talent but that doesn't mean they're gifted enough to carry - like the people who made the magic were. A lot of young physicists are smarter and even have a higher IQ than Albert Einstein, but they ain't Albert Einstein and will never come up with anything nearly as significant of contribution(s).

Every well-known, big company has ultra-smart geniuses working there. A ton of them actually.
Chances are you see a lot of these people everyday on a lunch break.
Geniuses aren't rare, but legends are rare as are the conditions when they make their breakthroughs.

The shyt these companies pulled off to go to the next level are basically a timestamp of catching lightning in a bottle at the right place, right time - simply conditions very difficult to replicate. You can't buy nor pay for that.

Even if you have a new high-potential talent they're going to have a hard time climbing the well-established hierarchy at said company and usually end up dipping to another company where they can see their contributions have more weight and less resistance. Problem and risk is, if you do believe in their talent, choose to spend resources to back them up but end up being wrong - that's a large amount of time and money going to waste and you've basically pissed off the experienced older people there with a track record.

When the study is ready, the teacher will appear. Again, you can't pay for that. It'll happen when it happens.

At the end of the day, these were really expensive acquisitions for Microsoft knowing the main talent of the companies are older (and some central to their prime like John Carmack and Zenimax were long gone) and times simply aren't the same. They made the mistake of going to where the ball is, not where it may go.
 
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I keep saying it, when a company gets bought out that's usually it. In many cases, their fire ain't the same any more.

The cats who were working there initially get paid and dip.

Now you're left with a skeleton company where all the innovation that was once there are now gone and you just got a bunch of new faces without the gift that made the company great.

These were really expensive acquisitions for Microsoft knowing the main cats are older.

To be fair, Bethesda were already on a downward trend which is why they had to sell to begin with. Their games weren’t really selling or reviewing well last generation, which is why they were forcing so many GAAS like fallout 76 and Redfall out.

They were probably happy Microsoft paid as much as they did
 

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To be fair, Bethesda were already on a downward trend which is why they had to sell to begin with. Their games weren’t really selling or reviewing well last generation, which is why they were forcing so many GAAS like fallout 76 and Redfall out.

They were probably happy Microsoft paid as much as they did
Yeah, I added that part to my post just now. Really an expensive acquisition knowing the gifted talent are all older or straight up already gone. Many were probably eyeing retirement years ago because software is a stressful field (especially the modern gaming industry).
 

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Yeah, I added that part to my post just now. Really an expensive acquisition knowing the gifted talent are all older or straight up already gone. Many were probably eyeing retirement years ago because software is a stressful field.

I guess at the end of the day they got IP out of it. They didn’t really have much valuable IP before zenimax
 

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There is no Bethesda anymore it's all microsoft now...:francis: these people don't own the company no more...they got golden parachutes especially todd...
No Microsoft owns it but it was operating as it did. They just reported to Spencer who reported to Nadella.
 
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