Pete Buttigieg is a failure at the U.S. Department of Transportation - UPDATE: He's improved!!

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but can you buy a 10 thousand dollar electric car in '23, like poor families do with gas cars, you sanctimonious dikkhead? they easy to find?

i can't believe you just literally did what the meme said

Yeah the only cheap electric car i've seen is like 12k... and it's like literally a small hatchback...

 

[Professor Emeritus]

but can you buy a 10 thousand dollar electric car in '23, like poor families do with gas cars, you sanctimonious dikkhead? they easy to find?

Yes.

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But that's besides the point because he wasn't talking about the best option for poor families, he was talking about long-term solutions to get the economy off of oil.

i can't believe you just literally did what the meme said

I didn't even address the meme because no one is actually saying the meme. It's just another made-up strawman. I'm just correcting the lie that electric cars cost $50k.

This was his actual quote:

“The best thing we can do for the medium and long term is make sure Americans have more options through greater fuel efficiency and greater access to vehicles that don’t require gasoline at all so that Americans don’t have to worry about what is happening in some middle eastern capitol or foreign war zone.”



Strange....he said he was talking about "medium and long term", then he talks about "greater fuel efficacy" AND "greater access to electric vehicles", not either/or.

Funny how that's not captured in the right-wing meme you shared or your dishonest reply to me, eh?

 

[the cac mamba]

Yes.

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But that's besides the point because he wasn't talking about the best option for poor families, he was talking about long-term solutions to get the economy off of oil.






I didn't even address the meme because no one is actually saying the meme. It's just another made-up strawman. I'm just correcting the lie that electric cars cost $50k.

This was his actual quote:

“The best thing we can do for the medium and long term is make sure Americans have more options through greater fuel efficiency and greater access to vehicles that don’t require gasoline at all so that Americans don’t have to worry about what is happening in some middle eastern capitol or foreign war zone.”



Strange....he said he was talking about "medium and long term", then he talks about "greater fuel efficacy" AND "greater access to electric vehicles", not either/or.

Funny how that's not captured in the right-wing meme you shared or your dishonest reply to me, eh?

i can't take this long winded juelzing. just tell me, with a straight face, that the biden administration's messaging on gas prices is good right now

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Yeah the only cheap electric car i've seen is like 12k... and it's like literally a small hatchback...

Then look harder, there are dozens of electric cars available near me in the $5,000-9,000 range:

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And you can get used electric station wagons and even SUVs in the $10,000-$14,000 range:

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(no idea why the link text says ND, when you click on the link it goes to Los Angeles)



But it's silly to even whine about the low availability of used electric cars, because it's obviously a short-term issue that will be irrelevant soon. The reason there aren't that many used electric vehicles available right now is because the gas lobby and its supporters blocked their development for so long, and certain useful idiots did everything they could to help the gas lobby out. Now that electric car sales are going through the roof, used cars sales will catch up in time. There have been more electric cars sold since 2021 than in all of American history before 2021, and in 5-10 years many of those will be cheaper used cars.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

i can't take this long winded juelzing. just tell me, with a straight face, that the biden administration's messaging on gas prices is good right now

I wrote 4 sentences, and you think it's "long-winded juelzing". Why is Pete's actual quote "juelzing", but a fake meme lying about the quote is okay to you?

You have 90,000 posts on here but say you can't read 4 sentences if they prove your claim wrong.



Yes, to you the messaging is bad because you act like a fukking toddler. Everything to you is "gimme gimme gimme NOW," so actually explaining the reality of why things are the way they are, and how to focus on medium-to-long-term solutions, takes too much maturity. You just stick your fingers in your ears.

That's also why you're constantly posting right-wing tweets to support your case. They're the only shyt targeted at your maturity level.

 

[the cac mamba]

I wrote 4 sentences, and you think it's "long-winded juelzing". Why is Pete's actual quote "juelzing", but a fake meme lying about the quote is okay to you?

You have 90,000 posts on here but say you can't read 4 sentences if they prove your claim wrong.



Yes, to you the messaging is bad because you act like a fukking toddler. Everything to you is "gimme gimme gimme NOW," so actually explaining the reality of why things are the way they are, and how to focus on medium-to-long-term solutions, takes too much maturity. You just stick your fingers in your ears.

That's also why you're constantly posting right-wing tweets to support your case. They're the only shyt targeted at your maturity level.

how embarrassing

i mean, you're so busy sucking your own dikk that you aren't stopping to realize that if you think i'm stupid, what does that make the average american voter which is what we're talking about. not the fukking MENSA meeting in HL, chaired by you, but average american voters

biden's messaging on gas prices is atrocious right now. you know it, and i know it

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I mean, you're so busy sucking your own dikk that you aren't stopping to realize that if you think i'm stupid, what does that make the average american voter

If the point of your comment is that it's difficult to sell good policy decisions because some voters are uninformed and want quick fixes, that's fine. If the point of your comment is that we should avoid trying to sell good policy decisions and cater to the whims of the most uninformed voters instead, then you're as big an idiot as you look.


The last conversation we had about this, you basically admitted that you wanted the Biden Administration to kiss corporate ass and help out the oil companies even if it didn't lower gas prices, because giving freebies to Big Oil was better "messaging".

 

[the cac mamba]

If the point of your comment is that it's difficult to sell good policy decisions because some voters are uninformed and want quick fixes, that's fine. If the point of your comment is that we should avoid trying to sell good policy decisions and cater to the whims of the most uninformed voters instead, then you're as big an idiot as you look.


The last conversation we had about this, you basically admitted that you wanted the Biden Administration to kiss corporate ass and help out the oil companies even if it didn't lower gas prices, because giving freebies to Big Oil was better "messaging".

you might be the worst shill i've ever seen. let me ask you a simple, direct question;

why can't biden just fukkING AGREE with republicans that gas prices are a problem? doesn't he "care about the middle class"? i'm not convinced that you actually want to win this election at all

you guys insist on ceding these issues and wins to republicans on such common sense issues. i don't understand it

 

[Professor Emeritus]

you might be the worst shill i've ever seen. let me ask you a simple, direct question;

why can't biden just fukkING AGREE with republicans that gas prices are a problem? doesn't he "care about the middle class"? i'm not convinced that you actually want to win this election at all

you guys insist on ceding these issues and wins to republicans on such common sense issues. i don't understand it

It's embarrassingly easy to answer your direct question, because it's built on a lie. Biden has talked about the problem of high gas prices frequently.

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As President Biden took effective steps to help lower gas prices, North Carolina Republicans in the House voted against measures that would help lower costs at the pump A new analysis from the Department of Treasury showed that gas prices across the country have been declining thanks in part to...

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Biden set to release oil from emergency reserve in bid to lower US fuel prices

Biden said last week gas prices are too high, and announcement would market 14m extra barrels from strategic reserve

www.theguardian.com

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-announcing-steps-lower-gas-prices-including-oil/story

Biden gas prices: What's driving Joe Biden's unusual focus on oil

The US president has exerted himself over fuel prices, though they're largely outside his control.

www.bbc.com

Biden pressures oil companies on gas prices

Biden made the plea for increased production and refining, while also announcing the planned December release of 15 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

www.politico.com

As inflation soars, Biden turns to ethanol to lower gas prices

The president's announcement of the new plans came just hours after the Labor Department said the country had just experienced the highest rate of inflation in 40 years.

www.nbcnews.com

Biden threatens higher taxes on oil companies if they do not work to lower gas prices

www.cnbc.com

Biden says US should boost domestic oil production - ET EnergyWorld

Biden has struggled to find solutions to a problem rooted in Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the recent decision by the Saudi-led OPEC+ cartel to cut its own oil production.

energy.economictimes.indiatimes.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/09/business/oil-production-biden-trump/index.html

The US made $4 billion selling oil this year on President Biden's unprecedented releases from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve

Sales from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve total 180 million barrels at an average of $96.25 per barrel.

markets.businessinsider.com

Biden has frequently talked about the issues of high gas prices and taken moves to attempt to lower them.

It's incredible that you push right-wing lies so consistently, yet turn around and call anyone living in reality a "shill".

 

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how embarrassing

i mean, you're so busy sucking your own dikk that you aren't stopping to realize that if you think i'm stupid, what does that make the average american voter which is what we're talking about. not the fukking MENSA meeting in HL, chaired by you, but average american voters

biden's messaging on gas prices is atrocious right now. you know it, and i know it

The funny part about this post is you slipping in the implication that you're smarter than the average American voter. It's painfully clear to everyone who reads your posts that you are actually much, much dumber than the average American voter. Several leagues dumber. Voters do not think like you, which is why your red wave didn't happen and why gas prices are barely even a part of the national conversation anymore.

I don't know where you got the idea that you were smarter than the average voter. They're dumb as hell, but they can be trusted to vote better than your agent babble bullshyt, as proven time and time again.

 

[the cac mamba]

The funny part about this post is you slipping in the implication that you're smarter than the average American voter. It's painfully clear to everyone who reads your posts that you are actually much, much dumber than the average American voter. Several leagues dumber. Voters do not think like you, which is why your red wave didn't happen and why gas prices are barely even a part of the national conversation anymore.

I don't know where you got the idea that you were smarter than the average voter. They're dumb as hell, but they can be trusted to vote better than your agent babble bullshyt, as proven time and time again.

i got a 1400 on my SAT, average is 1050. the average american can't name the 3 branches of government

meanwhile, you can't even define what a woman is. so i'll pass on your definition of smart, too

 

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i got a 1400 on my SAT. the average american can't name the 3 branches of government

meanwhile, you can't even define what a woman is. so i'll pass on your definition of smart, too

Deflect, bullshyt, agent babble, deflect, bullshyt, agent babble.

I'm sure you'd like everyone to believe you're pretending to be as dumb as you act, but no one is buying it. How many times have you run away from a thread with your tail tucked between your legs just to pop up posting the same shyt again like it hasn't been dismantled multiple times already.

Congratulations on your SAT scores, by the way.

 

[the cac mamba]

Deflect, bullshyt, agent babble, deflect, bullshyt, agent babble.

I'm sure you'd like everyone to believe you're pretending to be as dumb as you act, but no one is buying it. How many times have you run away from a thread with your tail tucked between your legs just to pop up posting the same shyt again like it hasn't been dismantled multiple times already.

Congratulations on your SAT scores, by the way.

why didnt you answer my question? why did biden desperately realese the strategic reserves right before the election?

 

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why didnt you answer my question? why did biden desperately realese the strategic reserves right before the election?

Same reason you don't answer questions. I'm not actually here to have a discussion with you.

I'm here to make sure anyone who isn't educated on these issues doesn't read your posts and think you are being sincere in any way. You're here to push an agenda, which is why you keep repeating debunked talking points and refusing to engage in good faith.

 

[the cac mamba]

Same reason you don't answer questions.

so you're no better than me. really dunked on me with that one, chief

btw, the reason you wouldn't answer is because im right, and you can't juelz it away