Perk claims that the '04 Pistons could compete with the 80's championship teams. SAS vehemently disagrees

[Art Barr]

80s pistons not getting in that paint, lambeer not even looking at the Wallaces direction. He gonna have to be pushing that stretch 4 title hard as fukk.

Stop.

Laimbeer figured out how to confuse white refs while assaulting Larry bird.
Plus was from the most white flight racist burb in Chicago. Where his father was thee good ol boi of the region.. that from sheer nepotism. Afforded laimbeer certain liberties with a coded covert clsndestined attitude on court. Where laimbeer went to ND and he beat the undefeated ucla bruins to end the greatest win streak in any sport ever.
Where laimbeer got to basically feel he was above anybody one on one. Especially a black player.
Laimbeer would have checked out any player from any later generation. After his era mentally.


Even Larry bird was exposed.

Laimbeer was a menace from a racial coded era. That no one jn the later generations mentally was prepared to go against other than Jordan.


Art Barr

 

[DaKidFromNoWhere]

Did you never watch Jason Kidd play or something?

He slept on to be real but that stretch he had with the Nets is legit.
Any team would kill for a PG like him regardless if he was limited scoring wise.

 

[Cladyclad]

04 pistons washing the bad boys

 

[firemanBk]

Did you never watch Jason Kidd play or something?

He slept on to be real but that stretch he had with the Nets is legit.
Any team would kill for a PG like him regardless if he was limited scoring wise.

It's not hard to figure out JKidd is a HoF player but was not capable of taking over a game offensively
He has 4 30 point games in his entire playoff career out of 158. 4 out of 158

 

[DaKidFromNoWhere]

It's not hard to figure out JKidd is a HoF player but was not capable of taking over a game offensively
He has 4 30 point games in his entire playoff career out of 158. 4 out of 158

He slept on to be real but that stretch he had with the Nets is legit.
Any team would kill for a PG like him regardless if he was limited scoring wise.

 

[RedBull]

Won’t even watch the video. I’ve seen the 80’s, and the ‘04 Pistons would’ve been FINE!

 

[RedBull]

80s pistons not getting in that paint, lambeer not even looking at the Wallaces direction. He gonna have to be pushing that stretch 4 title hard as fukk.

No way you saw 80’s ball and feel this way.

 

[Primetime]

He slept on to be real but that stretch he had with the Nets is legit.
Any team would kill for a PG like him regardless if he was limited scoring wise.

But my post was specifically about this compared to Wade and Bron’s scoring ability. Jason nor RJ, nor Kenyon were in the same stratosphere (obviously) but the Pistons still struggled to outscore the Nets, was the point.

It wasn’t an indictment on Kidd.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It's funny to watch posters who like to big-up the 2000 Blazers offense when they had Rasheed as their clear #1....but now they're trying to downplay the Pistons offense that had Sheed back in the #3 position. So which is it, is Sheed an elite offensive #1 option for a classic team, or does he suck so bad that he can't even hold his weight at #3?

NAH THEY DIDNT HAVE THE ELITE SCORING PUNCH




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Rip - Billups - Sheed is a solid top-3 scoring punch. All three of them can shoot, pass, AND create their own bucket.


I think you might be overrating the actual skill level of some of those 1980s years because they played so fast. But lets look at who they were actually putting up there:


1988 Lakers: Top three scorers are Byron Scott, Magic, and Worthy. Only other players in double figures are A.C. Green and 40yo KAJ who was ready to retire. From a pure scoring skills perspective, can you really say that Rip, Billups, and Rasheed have less offensive scoring skill than Scott, Magic, and Worthy?

1989 Pistons: Top three scorers are Isiah, Dumars, and Aguirre. That's solid, but I'm not seeing the big gap between them and Billups/Rip/Sheed. Especially since those Pistons players were getting their #'s in an era where pace was 100 (compared to just 90 in 2004) and against defenses that really hadn't cranked it up at all the way the 2000s defenses were rolling. In the 1989 Finals, the Lakers started Magic, 33yo Cooper (left for Italy a year later), Worthy, AC Green, and 41yo KAJ (retired after the Finals), with 35yo Mychal Thompason (left for Italy a year later) the first guy off the bench. They were basically Magic, Worthy, and some filler pieces. That's not exactly some monster team to beat.

 

[wire28]

Pistons have regularly had some generational teams. Just too bad the league hates the city because it’s too black and when we are good are players are too.

 

[R=G]

Nah....get swept

 

[Shadow King]

Did you never watch Jason Kidd play or something?

Lol you sound crazy

Kidd gets disrespected but he is not Wade or Bron.

 

[papa pimp]

Those who know ball understand just how historical that 04 Pistons defense was.

 

[R=G]

Pistons have regularly had some generational teams. Just too bad the league hates the city because it’s too black and when we are good are players are too.

Every major NBA champion is black except for Larry Bird, Mchale, Joker, and Nowitski.

 

[Silkk]

Kidd gets disrespected but he is not Wade or Bron.

Didn’t say he was