Perfect Dark developed by The Initiative confirmed

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Consider what you guys are saying. Games are being announced to the public and they don't even have the infrastructure to really start working on it. It isn't even actually a game at that point, just a concept. Recruiting teams to work on it, what?

What I'm saying is doing that sort of thing is wild. Gamers have an expectation (whether it is warranted or not) that when you announce a game, you already have that stuff in place and you are planning to release it in the near future. Not when high school freshman are halfway through college.
That sort of thing is standard practice.

The Job listings expose the existence of the game anyway so it makes no sense to pretend the game doesn’t exist.

You calling it “wild” doesn’t make it an uncommon thing.
 

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I mean, lets just be real and call it what it is…xbox coming off the last gen was one foot in the grave and no one, not even the most loyal of stans were gonna run out to buy a series x with no games announced besides Halo.

Thats why they announced Fable, Perfect Dark, Everwild, Avowed, Hellblade 2, State of Decay 3, etc. etc. they had to sell the console.

They didn’t even have a proper development studio set up for this game when it was announced.

I mean this isn't even Stan shyt as this has become an industry wide thing. It's relevant now because the thing we are talking about is an Xbox title in this instance. Third party developers do the same thing. Sony owned studios probably have done it too.

And there are nuances to this type of practice because of delays, but my point remains the same.


That sort of thing is standard practice.

The Job listings expose the existence of the game anyway so it makes no sense to pretend the game doesn’t exist.

You calling it “wild” doesn’t make it an uncommon thing.

Meach, you're being disingenuous. Job listings on developer sites are not telling the public what the game is they are working on, just that they need someone to work on a project. That is vastly different than said developer OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCING the title of the game and showing whatever content on a public platform using their branding. The former only leads to speculation, the latter begins to set expectations. This is likely one of the reasons why developers and publishers don't always announce their shyt so early.
 

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mean this isn't even Stan shyt as this has become an industry wide thing. It's relevant now because the thing we are talking about is an Xbox title in this instance. Third party developers do the same thing. Sony owned studios probably have done it too.

And there are nuances to this type of practice because of delays, but my point remains the same.

People are still doing it, Ubisoft with splinter cell, Crystal with Tomb Raider, CDPR with Witcher 4…etc. Sony got a lot of shyt for it last gen announcing so many titles so early for probably the same reason. They were trying to sell the console.

It still hits a bit different when its a big CGI trailer announced at a big award show or showcase though
 

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Meach, you're being disingenuous. Job listings on developer sites are not telling the public what the game is they are working on, just that they need someone to work on a project. That is vastly different than said developer OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCING the title of the game and showing whatever content on a public platform using their branding. The former only leads to speculation, the latter begins to set expectations. This is likely one of the reasons why developers and publishers don't always announce their shyt so early.
The game was known to be in development well before the announcement.



Again, at that point it makes most sense to “announce” the game, 1 cause the secret is already out. 2 for recruiting purposes.

Same reason Sony announced wolverine with just a teaser and no team actually working on the game yet.

Again, i’m not making any of this up. It’s standard industry practice. Just cause you have not been paying attention doesn’t make that not true.
 

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How could they be working on Wolverine when they were working on miles:comeon:

Insomniac clearly has/had to recruit devs for wolverine.

They announced Wolverine in September 2021, Miles came out in November 2020, its very easy to figure it out

And comparing Insomniac to “The Initiative” is dumb
 

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They announced Wolverine in September 2021, Miles came out in November 2020, its very easy to figure it out

And comparing Insomniac to “The Initiative” is dumb
You clearly have no idea how game dev works:francis:

I just gave you comments from a game PR specialist responding directly to questions about why Wolverine was announced the way it was, and you still wanna argue this dumb shyt :francis:
 

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You clearly have no idea how game dev works:francis:

I just gave you comments from a game PR specialist responding directly to questions about why Wolverine was announced the way it was, and you still wanna argue this dumb shyt :francis:

Equating the initiative to insomniac is dumb regardless of the reason, one studio is a proven entity ready to drop their 2nd PS5 game. Wolverine will probably still launch before Perfect Dark.

They already have a solid development pipeline for their games. A new studio doesn’t get the same benefit of the doubt from fans, which is why people are questioning this game

Whats even worse is most of the people at the Initiative when this game was announced left already. If this teaser was for recruitment it had the opposite effect lol
 

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Equating the initiative to insomniac is dumb regardless of the reason, one studio is a proven entity ready to drop their 2nd PS5 game. Wolverine will probably still launch before Perfect Dark.

They already have a solid development pipeline for their games. A new studio doesn’t get the same benefit of the doubt from fans, which is why people are questioning this game

Whats even worse is most of the people at the Initiative when this game was announced left already
I’m not equating anything but the idea of using a trailer as a recruitment tool which is standard practice in the industry.

You just wanna say stan shyt as usual. That’s on you :manny:
 

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The game was known to be in development well before the announcement.



Again, at that point it makes most sense to “announce” the game, 1 cause the secret is already out. 2 for recruiting purposes.

Same reason Sony announced wolverine with just a teaser and no team actually working on the game yet.

Again, i’m not making any of this up. It’s standard industry practice. Just cause you have not been paying attention doesn’t make that not true.

There seems to be a gap between what I'm saying and what you're comprehending. People 'knowing' about a game in development before it is announced and a developer officially announcing a game half a decade before release are two different things. I do not care about people 'knowing' about it because that doesn't set the expectation of the developer officially announcing it does. Fine, I can buy it being a recruiting tool but it doesn't change what I'm saying. If you don't understand this that is fine, but that has been my overall point since I entered this thread today.
 

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There seems to be a gap between what I'm saying and what you're comprehending. People 'knowing' about a game in development before it is announced and a developer officially announcing a game half a decade before release are two different things. I do not care about people 'knowing' about it because that doesn't set the expectation of the developer officially announcing it does. Fine, I can buy it being a recruiting tool but it doesn't change what I'm saying. If you don't understand this that is fine, but that has been my overall point since I entered this thread today.
I understand that’s your opinion. But it’s not a rare occurrence for a game to be “announced” early for the aforementioned reasons.

Hell i remember waiting like 4 years between the announcement and release of Ninja Gaiden back in the day on xbox.
And games take much longer to make these days.
 
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