PAWG dressed as Kanye, Kim K and North West for their halloween costume

[godkiller]

I may need you to define what "poverty black face" is because this (your post) is the first time I've seen/read the term but here

And you're going on a rant getting technical about ridiculing themselves I never said they did it to ridicule themselves at all so get your panties out of bunch. My statement was that you see people paint themselves in in various colors that would depict other ethnicities. THAT'S IT!

AS I SAID in the original post White people do that sh!t to trigger reaction because they know people will get offended and them and their privilege couldn't give a damn about what you think

Interesting, but this isn't proof Haitians normally wear black face nor is it proof that it's normal for black Carribeans to do. It is not normal amongst black Carribean people to paint and depict themselves as other ethnicities, especially in racially derogatory and demeaning ways. I went to 3 Carnivals in a row and have sat through countless.

White people's black face IS meant to demean and denigrate black people--not just portray black people. That's why they wear dirty urban wear, sloppily rub mud and/or paint on themselves, and alternate between ripped and unripped clothing. White people act racist because many are racist. It's not necessarily to get a reaction as it is to show their contempt. Last year there was a cacthat went to a 100% white party dressed as a sambo. He never meant to see a black person that night (and didn't). Whether cacs want attention or not, and whether some fool has ever dressed in black face or not, has not bearing on the fact OP's blackface pictures are offensive and black people should care. Period.

 

[intruder]

Interesting, seems like it's related to their Mardi Gras. Anyway, that isn't normal amongst black Carribean people. I have never seen it and Haitains don't normally wear blackface (I have never seen them do it). The white people's depiction is meant to demean and denigrate black people--not just portray black people--which seems to be entirely something different.

Doggy. When you see a reply from a post that looks like it was part of a longer conversation please make sure to read up on the previous posts to see what was being discussed before you go and jump in talking about spreading misinformation.

And it's not just Haiti and it is not meant to ridicule. This pic looks like it was a depiction of "neg mawon" which used to escape slavery and hide in the country side. I can show you music videos where whitefaces are patten on black people to depict ghosts and zombies and such.

When i saw it in Costa Rica and Panama it was tastefully done and not meant to ridicule. Costa Ricans take a lot of pride in their black heritage. I know Mestizos in Costa Rica who claim black more than blacks themselves. If you ever travel there ask someone to drive you to Limon and you'll see how blacks and mestizos celebrate black culture together.

 

[godkiller]

And it's not just Haiti and it is not meant to ridicule. This pic looks like it was a depiction of "neg mawon" which used to escape slavery and hide in the country side. I can show you music videos where whitefaces are patten on black people to depict ghosts and zombies and such.

It isn't the same thing, but to cut to the chase: we see white people in poverty blackface as offensive in the English speaking black Carribean, which makes up the majority of blacks in the region. I have never got the impression that Haitians accept white people ridiculing blacks in blackface either.

When i saw it in Costa Rica and Panama it was tastefully done and not meant to ridicule. Costa Ricans take a lot of pride in their black heritage. I know Mestizos in Costa Rica who claim black more than blacks themselves. If you ever travel there ask someone to drive you to Limon and you'll see how blacks and mestizos celebrate black culture together.

Costa Rica and Panama are majority Mestizo countries with colonial racist overtones. They are neither black countries nor countries which have any clout with it comes to the question of whether blacks accept cacs or other groups accept black face. Literally only 1% of Costa Rica identifies as black and about 85-90% of the people in Panama identify as non-black. Meanwhile 80-90% of people in the black Carribean countries are black. So one is not the other. Most the Americas is full of black hating Mestizos. Their opinion on black face is about as relevant as a cac's.

 

[intruder]

It isn't the same thing, but to cut to the chase: we see white people in poverty blackface as offensive in the English speaking black Carribean, which makes up the majority of blacks in the region. I have never got the impression that Haitians accept white people ridiculing blacks in blackface either.



Costa Rica and Panama are majority Mestizo countries with colonial racist overtones. They are neither black countries nor countries which have any clout with it comes to the question of whether blacks accept cacs or other groups accept black face. Literally only 1% of Costa Rica identifies as black and about 85-90% of the people in Panama identify as non-black. So the vast majority of these people are just racist Mestizos, as is the case for most of South America. Meanwhile 80-90% of the black Carribean is countries are black.

Again doggy, noone said it was the same thing.

My point still remains that a lot of things that wouldn't be considered racist in different parts of the word are major issues here because of the history here. Plain and simple.

 

[godkiller]

Again doggy, noone said it was the same thing.

You are here saying it is. For some reason, you give a couple of Mestizo countries (where the people aren't black) and one oddball one (Haiti) as examples that "black face isn't considered racist in the rest of the world". This is untrue.

My point still remains that a lot of things that wouldn't be considered racist in different parts of the word are major issues here because of the history here. Plain and simple.

You haven't proven anything. You gave two Mestizo countries (where the people are non-black and carry anti-black stereotypes) and one esoteric tradition from Haiti as proof the rest of the world doesn't see blackface as offensive. I can tell you the Mestizo countries usually don't - but that is because they are often racist. Does that help your argument? As far as I know, dressing up as some sort of sambo would appear racist to Carribeans. So that neuters your "American history" argument. By the way, where are you from?

 

[intruder]

By the way, where are you from?

Haiti. Born and raised

 

[godkiller]

Haiti. Born and raised

That's very sad . But yall are several degrees different to the English speaking part though

 

[blackzeus]

Thats not black ppl in "black face". Are you form the Caribbean? Or know about the history

The pic is from Dominica at Carnival usually when cab do this they incorporate history, culture, background with in that create a concept for that particular carnival. It's not meanless shyt making fun of black ppl

Sometime it's traditional to do that represents they African background breaking off the chains. ..or represent the harsh treatment the slave with through from being tar and being feather burn alive ......voodoo...corrupted government...imperialism...government puppets from west...colonization..fallen leaders...etc all incorporated in the concept

Blackface = black on face. They may not be self-mocking, but it is blackface breh

 

[godkiller]

Blackface = black on face. They may not be self-mocking, but it is blackface breh

It's some sort of culture symbolism or something. The cacs do what they do for mockery and denigration's sake. Notice the kids are painted with black paint with nothing else added. On the other hand, the cacs paint themselves in stuff which looks like poo (not a coincidence) and exaggerate their lips so as to appear like a sambo (coincidence). Racist cacs think blacks are primitive apes. Anyone that wouldn't take such a clearly offensive visual as offensive, and instead defers to nonsense about carnival, is an idiot.

 

[KOOL-AID]

:deadkoolaid:

 

[intruder]

That's very sad . But yall are different so

Sad how?Oh my bad. Just typical mofo raised in America talking sh!t about what he knows nothing of.

Look buddy you can go chasing down racism down every hole all you want. Just saying American History is a major factor on how it's perceived here. Every little thing here that pertains to race will get blown up to the nth degree. This country makes you AWARE and very self conscious of YOUR and other people's ethnicities. It's just the way it is

And Different how? Black face in Haiti may depict neg mawon or Lwa.

And how well do you know the caribbean, breh? Or are you one of those who thinks Caribbean = Jamaica Trinidad and VI? Basically all the ENGLISH speaking islands? You think Caribbean music = Reggae and Soca and Calypso only, don't you? You know this but need to keep in mind that Cubans are caribbean people. Puerto Ricans are caribbean people. Guadeloupe. Martinique. Dominica.

Carnival in Martinique

Carnaval in GUADELOUPE

 

[Dolla$]

This is how you dress up as a black figure without looking like a racist inbred cracker..

 

[loyola llothta]

Sad how?Oh my bad. Just typical mofo raised in America talking sh!t about what he knows nothing of.

Look buddy you can go chasing down racism down every hole all you want. Just saying American History is a major factor on how it's perceived here. Every little thing here that pertains to race will get blown up to the nth degree. This country makes you AWARE and very self conscious of YOUR and other people's ethnicities. It's just the way it is

And Different how? Black face in Haiti may depict neg mawon or Lwa.

And how well do you know the caribbean, breh? Or are you one of those who thinks Caribbean = Jamaica Trinidad and VI? Basically all the ENGLISH speaking islands? You think Caribbean music = Reggae and Soca and Calypso only, don't you? You know this but need to keep in mind that Cubans are caribbean people. Puerto Ricans are caribbean people. Guadeloupe. Martinique. Dominica.

Carnival in Martinique

Carnaval in GUADELOUPE

Do you think Mocking black ppl "blackface" in America by white folks is the same thing they doing

 

[loyola llothta]

This is how you dress up as a black figure without looking like a racist inbred cracker..

Still one of the goats

 

[intruder]

Do you think Mocking black ppl "blackface" in America by white folks is the same thing they doing

Oh Boy
See below, breh.

When you see a reply from a post that looks like it was part of a longer conversation please make sure to read up on the previous posts to see what was being discussed before you go and jump in

Black face in Haiti may depict neg mawon or Lwa.

In most countries people would laugh it off. Ive been to carnivals and other celebrations in various countries where people of different ethnicities don masks and make-up of other ethnicities skin colors and its not big deal. But because of the history and constant animosity there is in the U.S. when it comes to racial issues people (nonwhites) will get upset over any little thing. Which then triggers stupid white people to, in turn see this and use these racist things to get a reaction