Paul Pierce attempts to explain why Lebron isn’t a top 5 player

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

2010 LeBron faked an injury to get out of that beating Boston was giving them

What was that injury again? It was never mentioned after that series.

 

[McPiff]

get mad at somebody's top 5 brehs
argue with the same dudes, over the same subjects and the same arguments, over and over brehs

 

[NYC Rebel]

get mad at somebody's top 5 brehs
argue with the same dudes, over the same subjects and the same arguments, over and over brehs

Folks are saying his criteria is wack.

 

[stepbackj34spud]

Folks are saying his criteria is wack.

His criteria for his top 5. Why does this make you guys mad? Paul Pierce isn’t the only guy who doesn’t have Lebron in their top 5 for whatever reasons.

 

[McPiff]

Folks are saying his criteria is wack.

at the end of the day, thats his top 5 lol. People shouldnt be that upset, even though the caption "had lebron at no 5 ahead of kobe one week ago", is funny

 

[murksiderock]

Lebron has been playing for 17 seasons, has 3 rings and won 2 of his 3 rings on a created superteam. All of his other rivals for all time great status have either won more or won similar in a shorter time period.

What is your case for him being ahead of Duncan if you have one.

Here are all the players consistently mentioned in Top 10 conversation, and how many rings they won as a #1 option, best player on the team:

8: Bill
6: Mike
4: Magic, Duncan
3: Bird, Shaq, LeBron
2: Cap, Dream, Kobe, KD
1: Wilt, Logo
0: Oscar, Mailman

Only four players have won more chips as the best player on a championship team. Three of those players (Bill, Mike, Magic) won in the pre-2000 era where few players played beyond 15 years, there was no free agency, etc; notice how none of the GOAT-caliber players who were drafted before 1990 played longer than 15 years besides Kareem and Hakeem, Mike didn't even play 15 full years...all the GOAT-level players who were drafted after '90 made it at least 17 years...

Duncan's 4 chips as a #1 is fair game with LeBron, let's just keep in mind that he won thos four across a 9-year stretch (1999 to 2007) and played 19 total years; got his 5th chip as a (productive) role player. If, hypothetically, LeBron wins a 4th chip this year as a #1, it will be 9 years (2012 to 2020), same amount of time as Duncan hit 4 from first to last, and he still has two years to match Tim at 5...

I'll keep it brief since you asked about Bron's case over Duncan, but it ain't a short case: higher peak dominance, longevity as an elite player, at some point undisputed best active player, better all around game, more iconic postseason moments, more decorated across the board in every category besides rings, better elevator of talent, etc...

I'm a Duncan guy and he can take his resume against anybody at the top, but yall gotta stop this pretending LeBron doesn't even have a case against other great players...

I predict a lot of Coli brehs are gonna be salty af as we see how history treats Bron, especially once he hangs em up there's only so much emotion you can attach to some subjective shyt like this anyway

History will be much kinder to Bron than we've been in real time...

 

[ALonelyDad]

Why the fukk would Pierce care if LeBron dapped him up or not? They’ve never been friends, and Pierce isn’t from the banana boat buddy buddy era.

idk, Pierce best friend and Celtic legend, Kendrick Perkins is spreading this narrative..Celtics need to pay him more than Klutch Sports, he has been compromised

 

[LexDiamonds]

White chocolate, Al Harrington, Trae Young, Kendrick Perkins have all recently come out and said Bron is the Goat. As the years go by he'll have more players in his corner.

 

[NYC Rebel]

His criteria for his top 5. Why does this make you guys mad? Paul Pierce isn’t the only guy who doesn’t have Lebron in their top 5 for whatever reasons.

His criteria is a lie. The names mentioned didn’t build their teams

 

[NYC Rebel]

at the end of the day, thats his top 5 lol. People shouldnt be that upset, even though the caption "had lebron at no 5 ahead of kobe one week ago", is funny

Bro....why are you repeating his top 5? Saying the players mentioned built their teams is outright false.

you know this.

 

[MVike28]

Cape for a horrible analyst brehs

they don’t love you like that

here’s some truths for y’all

 

[stepbackj34spud]

idk, Pierce best friend and Celtic legend, Kendrick Perkins is spreading this narrative..Celtics need to pay him more than Klutch Sports, he has been compromised

Perk ain’t no Celtics legend and he ain’t Pierce best friend either. I don’t know why would Perk would say that but he’s wrong. At no point has Pierce ever wanted to be friends or buddy buddy with Bron.

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

Here are all the players consistently mentioned in Top 10 conversation, and how many rings they won as a #1 option, best player on the team:

8: Bill
6: Mike
4: Magic, Duncan
3: Bird, Shaq, LeBron
2: Cap, Dream, Kobe, KD
1: Wilt, Logo
0: Oscar, Mailman




History will be much kinder to Bron than we've been in real time...

Here are all the players consistently mentioned in Top 10 conversation, and how many rings they won as a #1 option, best player on the team:

8: Bill
6: Mike
4: Magic, Duncan
3: Bird, Shaq, LeBron
2: Cap, Dream, Kobe, KD
1: Wilt, Logo
0: Oscar, Mailman

Only four players have won more chips as the best player on a championship team. Three of those players (Bill, Mike, Magic) won in the pre-2000 era where few players played beyond 15 years, there was no free agency, etc...

Duncan's 4 chips as a #1 is fair game with LeBron, let's just keep in mind that he won thos four across a 9-year stretch (1999 to 2007) and played 19 total years; got his 5th chip as a (productive) role player. If, hypothetically, LeBron wins a 4th chip this year as a #1, it will be 9 years (2012 to 2020), same amount of time as Duncan hit 4 from first to last, and he still has two years to match Tim at 5...

I'll keep it brief since you asked about Bron's case over Duncan, but it ain't a short case: higher peak dominance, longevity as an elite player, at some point undisputed best active player, better all around game, more iconic postseason moments, more decorated across the board in every category besides rings, better elevator of talent, etc...

I'm a Duncan guy and he can take his resume against anybody at the top, but yall gotta stop this pretending LeBron doesn't even have a case against other great players...



History will be much kinder to Bron than we've been in real time...

Higher peak dominance that resulted in how many championships outside of outrightly having the most talented team in the NBA (see Miami 2011, 2012, 2013) or a top 3 most talented roster (see Cleveland 2015, 2016, 2017) and yet he still has less rings than Duncan?

More decorated accross the board : Duncan - 3 Finals MVP's , 5 Rings, 13 x all NBA, 15 x all NBA defense (including 8 x all NBA first team defense), I just don't see Lebron being more decorated.

Better elevator of talent : Like Bosh? Like Love? Lebron's style of play only elevates him, it doesn't elevate anyone else. Players standing in the corner to catch and shoot is not elevating them. Also, it hasn't resulted in championships. When Lebron won his 3 rings, which of his teammates did he elevate?

Better all round game: Lebron might be better offensively, but Duncan is much better defensively. Jordan is one of the greatest defensive players in the history of the game, a game altering rim protector and is one of the best shot blockers in NBA history (5th all time in blocked shots)

Lebron has benefited a lot from playing in a Weak East (in his entire East career, only beating 10 50+ win teams and 5 of those 10 won less than 54 games).

Lebron has also benefited from being on the most talented or top 3 most talented roster for the last decade and has had the luxury of being able to handpick his teammates. A priviledge other equally as talented players like Hakeem Olajuwon never had (he wasted his prime in an awful franchise and won championships (94 and 95) or reached the NBA Finals (86) the instant he had some good players.

Anyway, got to go sleep. We can continue this another time.

 

[I'm Blackman]

My beef ain't with someone who says Lebron is second best overall. My beef is when someone acts like it's blasphemy to not have him as the second best player of all time. Lebron has done nothing to separate himself from Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Bird, Wilt, or Russell. He hasn't dominated his era with titles, with stats, so how is it a lock that he's the second best ever.

This

 

[I AM WARHOL]

My beef ain't with someone who says Lebron is second best overall. My beef is when someone acts like it's blasphemy to not have him as the second best player of all time. Lebron has done nothing to separate himself from Kareem, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Bird, Wilt, or Russell. He hasn't dominated his era with titles, with stats, so how is it a lock that he's the second best ever.

Exactly. That top 5 is completely justifiable yet people are going apeshyt on Paul. He made valid points.