Pat Riley Opens Up: Said He Is Shocked Over LeBron Leaving, Said It Has Fired Him Up, Much More

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It would be more of an accomplishment if they played in the west.

Not to mention you have the best player in basketball in his prime, shyt wasn't that difficult.

While i somewhat agree with you my original opinion still stands. It's no accomplishment to make it the finals if you gonna lose, word to KD.
 

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Ummm...Lebron got his teammates championship.

They making up for the loss of Bron means he didn't make them better?

:mindblown:


People stay pretending the saying "make your teammates better" is about individuals putting up stats instead of team success

While i somewhat agree with you my original opinion still stands. It's no accomplishment to make it the finals if you gonna lose, word to KD.

Its funny how "never got out of the first round" can destroy a players legacy but we act like making the Finals is completely meaningless. All of it matters...
 

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Again you dont have the exact timelines of when things were decided and so on. I hear you on not letting us know sooner but again he owes us nothing until he is fully ready to address the issue.
Ive followed The Dolphins and the Heat as long as i can remember.

You attempted to say that LeBron was probably undecided on where he wanted to go, and I gave you circumstances saying otherwise. So who really gives a fukk about a timeline? Bottom line it happened, which lends credence to the fact that he knew what he was doing all along. There was too many pieces to the puzzle for this to be some rash decision.


Sure the rules that apply to Michael Irving and Troy Aikman dont apply to the 4th string QB but arent we all striving for equality? Hell MO freakin Williams did the same thing to Riley in '08when we tried to get him to come play with Wade and Shaq. Not answering texts and phone calls. Im sure Riley learned from that experience and was prepared.

No we're not striving for equality in sports. Pay Nazr Mohammed the same contract that you'd pay Tim Duncan brehs. Stop it.




How about you EXPLAIN. My point to you was when it came time to put franchise first or himself first he chose himself. I was mad at dude for leaving us just as im mad Lebron left but i understand it. To me they both left.. same sh!t to me.

Zo left us to chase rings and get his money just as Lebron left Cleveland and us to chase rings and get his money and be at home just as Saban left my Dolphins to go back to college and be a god on campuses and get his money.

Call me naiive but SAME-SHI!T-TO-ME


You compared LeBron's tenure with the Heat to Zo's. From there, you had no point. No one cares about LeBron putting himself first. This was not a life and death situation for he and his family, nor was he on a trash team. However, that still doesn't take away the fact that he was a bytch for the way he handled it.


What you crying about? you act like him leaving was a 100% basketball move when it clearly wasn't.

Point to me where I said this is a 100% basketball move? Obviously, since we're discussing basketball, that's the shyt I'll be largely focusing in on, especially when it comes to ring chasing fakkit like LeBron.


What does this have to do with his first tenure in Cleveland? :dead: All i'm saying is the market this year wasn't in miami's favor regardless of whether he came back or not. You act as if Melo Gortat and bledsoe would have signed for the vet minimum if Lebron resigned. Everyone was getting PAID.

Ignore the fact that the "all-star" player you hyped up later in your post that I mentioned, was operating under the assumption that he was going to play with LeBron and if so,


Noah isn't an all star? Deng wasn't an all-star? :dead: I thought Jimmy butler was supposed to blossum into a star?

''Enough is enough'' are you dissapointed in the bulls front office or something? Aren't they notorious for being cheap? Looks like you're hating the player instead of the game.

I said "the caliber of Wade, or Bosh?" Are you fukking stupid? Noah has a unique skillset, and gets everything that he can out of his potential (and then some), but he's not of the caliber of a Wade and Bosh. Deng got exposed in Cleveland, which is why he looks like an ass for turning the Bulls 3 year $30 million dollar deal down, thinking he was going to get $15 million a year, only to sign to Miami to a lesser deal. The rest of the bullshyt you said about the Jimmy and the front office is irrelevant as the point remains that Rose has never played with a talent such as a Bosh or Wade. The point was I'm sure he'd love to "have the market not in his favor" as you alluded to with LeBron and the Heat.
 

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People stay pretending the saying "make your teammates better" is about individuals putting up stats instead of team success



Its funny how "never got out of the first round" can destroy a players legacy but we act like making the Finals is completely meaningless. All of it matters...

I've never stated anything about players getting thrown out of the first round, second round or whatever. I don't care how far you make it, The shyts don't matter if you don't win.
 

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You attempted to say that LeBron was probably undecided on where he wanted to go, and I gave you circumstances saying otherwise. So who really gives a fukk about a timeline? Bottom line it happened, which lends credence to the fact that he knew what he was doing all along. There was too many pieces to the puzzle for this to be some rash decision.




No we're not striving for equality in sports. Pay Nazr Mohammed the same contract that you'd pay Tim Duncan brehs. Stop it.







You compared LeBron's tenure with the Heat to Zo's. From there, you had no point. No one cares about LeBron putting himself first. This was not a life and death situation for he and his family, nor was he on a trash team. However, that still doesn't take away the fact that he was a bytch for the way he handled it.




Point to me where I said this is a 100% basketball move? Obviously, since we're discussing basketball, that's the shyt I'll be largely focusing in on, especially when it comes to ring chasing fakkit like LeBron.




Ignore the fact that the "all-star" player you hyped up later in your post that I mentioned, was operating under the assumption that he was going to play with LeBron and if so,




I said "the caliber of Wade, or Bosh?" Are you fukking stupid? Noah has a unique skillset, and gets everything that he can out of his potential (and then some), but he's not of the caliber of a Wade and Bosh. Deng got exposed in Cleveland, which is why he looks like an ass for turning the Bulls 3 year $30 million dollar deal down, thinking he was going to get $15 million a year, only to sign to Miami to a lesser deal. The rest of the bullshyt you said about the Jimmy and the front office is irrelevant as the point remains that Rose has never played with a talent such as a Bosh or Wade. The point was I'm sure he'd love to "have the market not in his favor" as you alluded to with LeBron and the Heat.
Why you so hurt? Is it cause the bulls haven't seen the finals since '98?

What doeS deng possibly wanting to play with LeBron have to do with the fact that he DID play with Rose as an all star, even though he was hurt...?

Deng didn't get ''exposed'' he was a good player for a decade in Chicago. you don't get ''exposed'' after all those years, it means he's declining.

How many all stars have rose played with? 2. (Noah and deng)
LeBron? 2. (wade and bosh)

Stop crying. Never said they were the same caliber, but two players don't make a team. If you wanna be mad at someone be mad at the bulls for not building a better supporting cast. And lol at a prime free agent chasing championships being a bad thing. Damn y'all dudes speak about bron like he fukked your moms and left her at the alter :dead:
 

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Riley is a dumbass tho. For years it was clear Bron never responded to Spo, period. This team was always getting blown out in the regular season because they were unmotivated as fukk. Riley should've coached this team and for him to think that flip chinaman was gonna hold the reins he's lying to himself
 

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Why you so hurt? Is it cause the bulls haven't seen the finals since '98?

What doeS deng possibly wanting to play with LeBron have to do with the fact that he DID play with Rose as an all star, even though he was hurt...?

What did you say from the onset? You said that the market was not in the Heat's favor because everybody that was worth a damn was getting over paid and wasn't willing to take less. I brought up that Luol Deng was a player that was willing to take less had LeBron resigned. That's what it has to do with it fakkit. Tighten up on your logic.



Deng didn't get ''exposed'' he was a good player for a decade in Chicago. you don't get ''exposed'' after all those years, it means he's declining.

You go from this with the Chicago Bulls:

19.0 PPG, FG 45%, 7 RBS, 3.7 AST

To this for the Cleveland Cavaliers because you just magically decline in the same NBA calender year:

14 PPG, FG 41.7%, 5 RBS, 2.5 AST

What the fukk is this Space Jam? Somebody randomly zapped his talent away from him :laugh:? It's funny how you attribute this drastic change in stats to a STEEP decline, when Luol himself alluded to how everything was night & day between playing for the Cavs and Bulls. Like I said, he got EXPOSED in Cleveland as being a product of Thibs, and being his work horse playing an abundance of minutes to get those stats.



How many all stars have rose played with? 2. (Noah and deng)
LeBron? 2. (wade and bosh)

You silly little contradictory fakkit. How are you going to say this in the bold and then turn around say this:

I Never said they were the same caliber

You're done you garbage ass alias. Be happy that I even acknowledged your existence.
 

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It would be more of an accomplishment if they played in the west.

Not to mention you have the best player in basketball in his prime, shyt wasn't that difficult.


Why do people always talk about how tough the west is, when for the past 3 yrs it comes down to 2 teams? OKC or the Spurs.
 
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