Pastor Kills himself before church after saying "Gods not hearing me"

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I guess he was going through something pretty heavy. He's a real person, not a robot. The problem wasn't that God wasn't hearing his prayers, it's that he wasn't willing to share his problem with a close brother who could help lift him up. We are not made to fight through struggles by ourselves. Pastors do not need to pretend they are perfect. And unfortunately, I think that this had to do with him trying to keep his "exterior appearance" up as the lead pastor of a church and did not want to appear vunerable or as one with a problem. He didn't have a wing man, I'm talking a real breh he could share the truth and keep it 100. Who knows, money problems, marital problems, whatever. It was enough to make him want to stop it with suicide.

Just from my cop training, people who want to commit suicide don't really want to die, they want to stop the pain or problem they are going through, and they don't know how else to stop it. I didn't get training with getting suicide prevention negotiation skills though.
 
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CLINICAL depression, i.e. a set of defined symptoms.

if nikkas knew how the koch postulates worked, they'd be second guessing a lot of shyt too. :heh:

There are some definite mental things that go on...but the general malaise that seems to be the result of life not going the way some people want it? Eh...
Medicine has come a long way since then but the principles are pretty much the same.
Diagnosis does not necessarily have to relate to causation (i.e. it is possible to diagnose symptoms without knowing exactly what causes them) and can only define insofar as scientific evidence is available. At any rate it's probably better that people aren't quick to second guess the intentions of medical practice even if the rationale is steeped in ambiguity. There's so much about the brain we still don't know but from serotonin imbalances to observed structural difference in the brain patterns of depressed people we do know that there is something abnormal going on.

Yes drawing lines in the sand is near impossible when dealing with psychosomatic illnesses but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people that find themselves afflicted in this way are going to need help, which is ultimately the point of medicine.
 

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Medicine has come a long way since then but the principles are pretty much the same.
Diagnosis does not necessarily have to relate to causation (i.e. it is possible to diagnose symptoms without knowing exactly what causes them) and can only define insofar as scientific evidence is available. At any rate it's probably better that people aren't quick to second guess the intentions of medical practice even if the rationale is steeped in ambiguity. There's so much about the brain we still don't know but from serotonin imbalances to observed structural difference in the brain patterns of depressed people we do know that there is something abnormal going on.

Yes drawing lines in the sand is near impossible when dealing with psychosomatic illnesses but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people that find themselves afflicted in this way are going to need help, which is ultimately the point of medicine.
I'm of the opinion that A LOT of what goes on in psychiatry is helping people to cope and to comform to society.

i'm well aware of the neurological and chemical substrates of other diseases and conditions though.
 

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good riddance :camby:

one less religious fool on the planet. offin youself when u got a wife n kids? p*ssy

imo he was clearly suffering from a degree of mental illness, for believing in a magic father figure who hes never seen or interacted with. that shoulda been a red flag :jawalrus:
 
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