Past Unpopular Boxing Beliefs(Fess up)

[theflyest]

Not interested in watching this shyt fest anytime soon, let alone on a friday

Hey you said it was a debatable fight, I'm trying to show both you niiggas this wasn't a debatable fight & yalls memory is kinda shaky. Tarver just performed better than expected, nothing more.

 

[Skip b]

Hey you said it was a debatable fight, I'm trying to show both you niiggas this wasn't a debatable fight & yalls memory is kinda shaky. Tarver just performed better than expected, nothing more.

Thats my opinion if you disagree oh well, fight was a toss up, if you felt Roy won then, I have zero qualms. It was a ugly ugly fight that was hard to score cause Roy was laying on the ropes

A part of Roy felt he lost also which is why he melted down turning his back on that HW money, only to take a monumental L

SN:Remembers a rain storm during Tarver 2, and missing the fukking fight, only to find out like a hour later after the storm passed, on ESPN that Roy got his soul snatched during the ref instructions and then get his planted under the ropes in 2, Roy losing in 2, soul shattering loss

 

[King P]

Meldrick Taylor vs Julio Cesar Chavez

This has been debated for 20 years. And while I'm not going to argue the usual shyt that people bring up as to why it should have been stopped. But rather I don't even think Meldrick was even hurt badly enough to have the fight stopped.

Yes he was bruised, yes he was bloody, yes he was hurt. But it wasn't a one sided beatdown at the end like HBO and Richard Steele made it out to be. He was very competitive in the final rounds and going tit for tat with JCC. He got knocked down, but he got up and was fine. His legs were underneath him, he wasnt wobbling around Lewis or Berbick. He should have been able to continue, regardless of how much time was left.

I read comments all the time online like "what if Chavez would have landed one final punch on Taylor and seriously injured him? You would have criticized Steele for not stopping the fight?" And I'm just like nikkas love to exaggerate

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Meldrick Taylor vs Julio Cesar Chavez

This has been debated for 20 years. And while I'm not going to argue the usual shyt that people bring up as to why it should have been stopped. But rather I don't even think Meldrick was even hurt badly enough to have the fight stopped.

Yes he was bruised, yes he was bloody, yes he was hurt. But it wasn't a one sided beatdown at the end like HBO and Richard Steele made it out to be. He was very competitive in the final rounds and going tit for tat with JCC. He got knocked down, but he got up and was fine. His legs were underneath him, he wasnt wobbling around Lewis or Berbick. He should have been able to continue, regardless of how much time was left.

I read comments all the time online like "what if Chavez would have landed one final punch on Taylor and seriously injured him? You would have criticized Steele for not stopping the fight?" And I'm just like nikkas love to exaggerate

That breaks my heart everytime, he was ok to go.

 

[Willy Waffle]

I really thought that if Roy Jones and Lennox Lewis fought in 03 (it almost happened) Roy woulda won. Still do

After Lewis knocked out Tyson, he really let himself go. He was bloated and in terrible condition. He was really there for the taking. He just didn't have it anymore, and was very lucky to escape with a W. Anybody that wasn't a bum or totally past it coulda taken him.

Unless he caught him and knocked him out, Roy woulda won by UD

I remember in a interview roy said the power at heavyweight was a lil bit too much for him but still, they're was some big money fights that still could have been made. fuk the tarver rematch, he should have fought holyfield, tyson, and even lennonx. i always felt, roy should have fought lennox, would have got 20 mil win or lose and still would have gone down in history as one of the goats. even thought lennonx had a helluva size and reach advantage, IMO i thought roy would have been quick enough to get in and out or even counter lennox. it wouldn't have been the most prettiest fight but i felt roy had a chance.

 

[King P]

That breaks my heart everytime, he was ok to go.

He really was. Then again, this doesn't surprise me considering Richard Steele was the ref. His resume is filled with inconsistent and extremely questionable calls

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Watch the fight again. He clearly won the fight, he just looked like shiit doing it, which is why he did the rematch. Tarver won maybe 4 or 5 rounds at the most. Very easy fight to score. When Roy stayed in the middle of the ring, he easily won the round. Tarver won the rounds when he had Roy on the ropes.

Tarver vs Jones Jr is a perfect example of one guy winning the fight while the other guy won the event. Roy clearly won that fight for anybody without an agenda. It's just this was the first time Roy didn't look like superman and he had bruises and marks on his face. The aura of invincibility disappeared that night. This is why some people overrate certain things Tarver did in that fight. shyt, at the time I felt Roy was ducking Tarver and was actually pulling for Tarver to win, but Roy gutted that shyt out and won. If I remember correctly Tarver had to fight two eliminators to get a shot and was bashing Roy in every interview opportunity he got.

Roy was losing the first couple of rounds and then he got into Antonios head with the clowning and showboating and threw dude's gameplan off. Tarver stopped jabbing and would just come forward. Roy then started pot shotting his head and killing his body for 2 and half minutes of the round and would retreat to the ropes at the last part and Tarver would finally get his shots off and some weren't even landing clean like that. Roy worked his way back into the fight and Tarver put more effort at the end of the rounds after the middle rounds and stole a couple only to let Roy dig deep and win the last two championship rounds. Tarver only won 4 or 5 rounds of that fight at best. Fight was actually pretty entertaining and Roy hardly gets credit for a good win that he showed some heart and grit to win which is a shame since that's what everyone always wanted to see from dude anyway.

 

[patscorpio]

Tarver vs Jones Jr is a perfect example of one guy winning the fight while the other guy won the event. Roy clearly won that fight for anybody without an agenda. It's just this was the first time Roy didn't look like superman and he had bruises and marks on his face. The aura of invincibility disappeared that night. This is why some people overrate certain things Tarver did in that fight. shyt, at the time I felt Roy was ducking Tarver and was actually pulling for Tarver to win, but Roy gutted that shyt out and won. If I remember correctly Tarver had to fight two eliminators to get a shot and was bashing Roy in every interview opportunity he got.

Roy was losing the first couple of rounds and then he got into Antonios head with the clowning and showboating and threw dude's gameplan off. Tarver stopped jabbing and would just come forward. Roy then started pot shotting his head and killing his body for 2 and half minutes of the round and would retreat to the ropes at the last part and Tarver would finally get his shots off and some weren't even landing clean like that. Roy worked his way back into the fight and Tarver put more effort at the end of the rounds after the middle rounds and stole a couple only to let Roy dig deep and win the last two championship rounds. Tarver only won 4 or 5 rounds of that fight at best. Fight was actually pretty entertaining and Roy hardly gets credit for a good win that he showed some heart and grit to win which is a shame since that's what everyone always wanted to see from dude anyway.

its really forgotten because his next 3 fights sent him tumbling off the p4p lists in a rapid downward spiral

 

[firemanBk]

Meldrick Taylor vs Julio Cesar Chavez

This has been debated for 20 years. And while I'm not going to argue the usual shyt that people bring up as to why it should have been stopped. But rather I don't even think Meldrick was even hurt badly enough to have the fight stopped.

Yes he was bruised, yes he was bloody, yes he was hurt. But it wasn't a one sided beatdown at the end like HBO and Richard Steele made it out to be. He was very competitive in the final rounds and going tit for tat with JCC. He got knocked down, but he got up and was fine. His legs were underneath him, he wasnt wobbling around Lewis or Berbick. He should have been able to continue, regardless of how much time was left.

I read comments all the time online like "what if Chavez would have landed one final punch on Taylor and seriously injured him? You would have criticized Steele for not stopping the fight?" And I'm just like nikkas love to exaggerate

I'd say most would agree that was a bad stoppage. So, not too unpopular an opinion. I didn't think it was that bad. I honestly don't think Meldrick could've walked out of that corner. He stood there for what seemed like forever

 

[Yuzo]

mel got up at 4 it was a flash kd

 

[yo moms]

What was so good about James Toney.................

this nikka cant be serious. you dont know shyt about boxing if you dont know whats so good about toney

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

When I see you Im going to beat you and your mama's ass.....

 

[Majestic Pape]

I don't see how anyone could have given that to Tarver judging the fight round by round. There is no way Tarver won 7 rounds in that fight.

That's the problem with a lot of these boxing "fans" who fake like they're judges. They watch a fight (and they ALWAYS already have a bias for the underdog) and decide who they feel won based on their entirety of the fight, even though fights are judged on a round to round basis. You can't watch that first Jones-Tarver fight, score it round-by-round, and have Tarver winning the fight. It's the same argument I use when people try to say JMM won that third Pac fight...

Also, I'm still not sure why there are those on this site who continue to tout that Bradley beating Pac was somehow the "right" decision.

 

[Majestic Pape]

My "unpopular" opinion (I guess it's opinion) is that Zab would have destroyed Kostya if he would have gotten a rematch... and that he would have pitched a shutout had that fight been allowed to go on. I think that was truly the night his psyche got destroyed.

 

[patscorpio]

this nikka cant be serious. you dont know shyt about boxing if you dont know whats so good about toney

this is the type of bullshyt he posts all the gotdamn time..nikka will say some shyt like that about toney but yet has the nerve to post shyt like carlos hernandez being a hall of famer because he is the only to score an official KD on floyd yet knows absolutely nothing else about him...trolling or superstanning...its all stupid shyt with skip