Partners in study gave legal memo a lower rating when told author wasn’t white

[tmonster]

You liberal socialists need to stop playing the race card all the time.

The newblack does not make excuses

 

[ThatTruth777]

be 100x times better brehs

 

[Mr swag]

Thomas Meyer should have been a new black and stopped blaming overs for there problems

 

[88m3]

@BarNone thoughts?

 

[tmonster]

Thomas Meyer should have been a new black and stopped blaming overs for there problems

seriously the nerve of that whiner

 

[88m3]

seriously the nerve of that whiner

If he doesn't pull himself by his god damn bootstraps it will never trickle down!

 

[No1]

@BarNone thoughts?

"Why am I telling you that you could've done better when you got an A-, when most people got Bs and your friend Chris got a B+? You see, he's your close friend but remember that you're going to grow up to be a black man in America. He gets a B you better get an A. He gets a B+, you better get an A+. You have to be undeniably better, and that's how it will always be." - My father to a 5 year old BarNone. Nothing about my perspective has changed.

 

[Serious]

@ The comment section, all the done to discredit the study.

7.
Dr Phun
Apr 21, 2014 11:27 AM CDT

Perhaps the difference in the results was due, not because of race, but because of how the races were described. African-American is location based and its counterpart is European-American. White is color based and its counterpart would be black. (BTW, the study didn’t actually use color, but instead used an anthropological term.) Perhaps the participants in the study thought that African-American meant an immigrant to America from Africa of any race. Perhaps participants would have reacted more favorably than either to a Caribbean – American writer. Or they just had a negative reaction to a PC term. The point is that when this PC stuff isn’t controlled in a study, it mucks up the results and you don’t get reliable results because participants react to the terms that are used.

 

[88m3]

"Why am I telling you that you could've done better when you got an A-, when most people got Bs and your friend Chris got a B+? You see, he's your close friend but remember that you're going to grow up to be a black man in America. He gets a B you better get an A. He gets a B+, you better get an A+. You have to be undeniably better, and that's how it will always be." - My father to a 5 year old BarNone. Nothing about my perspective has changed.

Yes, it's never been enough to be exceptional.

 

[Serious]

@bigDeeOT

 

[Serious]

ictoria Pynchon
Apr 25, 2014 8:12 AM CDT
Yes, the comments here and at Above the Law (where they run directly from denial of bias to express, overt, actual racism) are telling. I sat on a diversity committee for an international legal organization that was populated primarily by white male CEOs and General Counsel, though also by women and minorities in that group. At some point in every meeting, someone would question the existence or effect of bias (in a part of the profession that is 80-90% white male) and we’d spend the rest of the meeting on that topic. I finally suggested that the diversity committee hire a diversity trainer. Even after that exercise, our discussions inevitably devolved into discussions of the existence of bias. So I finally quit.

I have a friend who was an in-house lawyer at a major petroleum company. He is black and he tired of being the guy on the diversity panel. So he quit talking on diversity panels.. He went back to his company, called his primarily white male lawyer contacts at AmLaw firms and said, “send me resumes of Black lawyers who have the same credentials you do. AMAZING! Suddenly, he was able to find Black lawyers to hire.

The firm that conducted this study, also conducted a more telling one if you go to the source report. A group of partners in a single law firm where minorities were consistently getting worse reviews than their while male and female partners, hired Nextions to see whether the problem was with the reviewers or the minority lawyers. The lawyers (summer associates actually) submitted memos to the committee blind. When rated without reference to race or gender, BOTH the minorities AND the women fared better than they had when their work was evaluated by partners who knew who they were and the white men’s work was evaluated less favorably when read by a committee that didn’t know their work was the work of white men. And, yes, we all carry these biases, women v. women, blacks v. blacks.

Did affirmative action cause 400 years of slavery? Jim Crow laws in the South? Segregation in the North?

Listen. We favor our own AND we favor the people the culture favors. These two combined effects result in unconscious bias against “out” groups and minorities/women continue to be “out” groups in our legal culture. Scores of rigorous social science studies prove this without doubt. So pick away at this study all you want. Just ask yourself, WHY AM I DOING THAT? Does it threaten me because I see myself as being unbiased?

We all have an obligation to create a justice system that is fair for all and a justice system that does not reflect the people who it judges has, at a minimum, the appearance of impropriety. Let’s do something about it instead of spending endless hours explaining away the elephant in America’s living room.

 

[ORDER_66]

Wait a minute so these people graded the same test sheet even though they intentionally gave the black guy lower scores than the white counterpart correct?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Black Men are judged by a higher standard so we either fail or become great.

 

[tmonster]

obviously, we don't need affirmative action #newblack

 

[tmonster]

Black Men are judged by a higher standard so we either fail or become great.

you can keep that burden