Paradise starring Sterling K. Brown, espionage thriller on Hulu

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watching the entire mission of the
librarian
from in the dark foreman to scorned gay man to Jason Bourne was only made dumber by the fact he didn't look like a real person.
i thought dude was wearing a fat suit or something in the early scenes, and then when he was the librarian he looked like Will Ferrell when he used to do those sketches on the keyboard.
who the fukk was that actor?
 

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also, did i miss the fact that Xavier is a
trained pilot? i'm sure they mention he's air force or some shyt, but i don't recall a single hint or allusion to him being a pilot, then all of a sudden he's about to go into the unknown solo in a plane
i probably just missed this part b/c up until this last episode, everything was pretty well done
 

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also gotta laugh at all the nut cheese fries foreshadowing leading up to...
a big reveal that the background characer waitress is just some loser from the outside who was brought into Paradise by the background character gay libraian presidential assassan and is impersonating a dead woman with a nut allergy because... something... very significant to... something else? cool. his story couldn't have just been him killing a single guy, we needed that nut cheese and an additional character to really give a contrived reveal. it wasn't even like she was important and was giving intel about the therapist she was buddies with

big reveals don't hit when you look back and go, "how in the holy fukk could i have ever suspected that in any way?" you need more breadcrumb. you need to have a list of potential victims/killers/etc so that you can look back at some point and go, "ahhhhh, i should have clocked that in episode 4! wow, that was great foreshadowing!!"

we basically get introduced to this doughy foreman out of nowhere and they cut to him being a librarian we met one time for 30 seconds where nothing nefarious is really hinted at. that sucks.
 
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also, did i miss the fact that Xavier is a
trained pilot? i'm sure they mention he's air force or some shyt, but i don't recall a single hint or allusion to him being a pilot, then all of a sudden he's about to go into the unknown solo in a plane
i probably just missed this part b/c up until this last episode, everything was pretty well done

Grandfather was a Tuskegee airman, father was a commercial Arline Pilot. He def grew up around planes with a love for flying. His eyesight wasn’t good enough to be an Air Force pilot, but def seems plausible he knows how to fly.
 

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Grandfather was a Tuskegee airman, father was a commercial Arline Pilot. He def grew up around planes with a love for flying. His eyesight wasn’t good enough to be an Air Force pilot, but def seems plausible he knows how to fly.
right. good call.
 
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also gotta laugh at all the nut cheese fries foreshadowing leading up to...
a big reveal that the background characer waitress is just some loser from the outside who was brought into Paradise by the background character gay libraian presidential assassan and is impersonating a dead woman with a nut allergy because... something... very significant to... something else? cool. his story couldn't have just been him killing a single guy, we needed that nut cheese and an additional character to really give a contrived reveal. it wasn't even like she was important and was giving intel about the therapist she was buddies with

big reveals don't hit when you look back and go, "how in the holy fukk could i have ever suspected that in any way?" you need more breadcrumb. you need to have a list of potential victims/killers/etc so that you can look back at some point and go, "ahhhhh, i should have clocked that in episode 4! wow, that was great foreshadowing!!"

we basically get introduced to this doughy foreman out of nowhere and they cut to him being a librarian we met one time for 30 seconds where nothing nefarious is really hinted at. that sucks.

Agreed. Seems the cheese fry lady’s only point was to lead Robinson to the library to find Xavier. :snoop:
 

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Me and wifey definitely debating/arguing cause she absolutely on yall side :dead:

She is absolutely not willing to rock with the librarian having perfect opportunity to kill the president like he did. But imo, that is why Billy and Jane got scolded like they did....they were literally the WORST fukking secret service bodyguards you could ask for....mufukkas turning off cameras, sleeping on couches just not giving a damn about that man's safety :mjlol: :mjlol: :mjlol: And their stupid ass habits wound up getting the president killed...this nikka who didn't plan a thing, running off pure emotion was able to finish his mission because yall fukking sucked at yall job. But when you really start to think about it, it clears because them being secret service members were just covers for the real reason they were there...they didn't give a damn about Cal safety, they didn't live and would die for this shyt like Xavier did

Spot on. Shiiit we dont even know Jane's full backstory.

But I agree with your wife, the librarian had an opportunistic scenario to kill the president which was kinda weak to me. His whole entry was opportunistic.

1) he randomly found a couple on the highway who was going to Paradise
2) meeting up with ole girl and her blindly trusting him to go to this "place"
3) Security just rushing the them in and not verifying biometrics or even their pictures. They look significantly younger than the couple they killed
 

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Was talking to the mom about it and she brought up some points i definitely wasn't paying attention to.....

Like yall mentioned, X comes from a family of pilots so him flying the plane isn't much of stretch. I completely forgot about how the only reason he joined the secret service is because of his poor vision made him fail the pilot tests and very likely seriously trained for piloting, so he probably knows what his gas levels is like, how far he can fly the plane etc....I'll give the writers some credit and not expect him to just be shocked when he doesn't make it all the way to atlanta cause you already know he won't.

Librarian was the head of the construction team and likely had hella experience, and I completely forgot he had that bag of tools on him during the murder night. So it was definitely him who probably cut the power that night. And he might have been one of the ones to make blueprints of the buildings so he might actually HAVE known exactly how to get to the president's room

And he probably used some of the african spices he learned about to have his accomplice chick make those cheese fries so damn good
 

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also gotta laugh at all the nut cheese fries foreshadowing leading up to...
a big reveal that the background characer waitress is just some loser from the outside who was brought into Paradise by the background character gay libraian presidential assassan and is impersonating a dead woman with a nut allergy because... something... very significant to... something else? cool. his story couldn't have just been him killing a single guy, we needed that nut cheese and an additional character to really give a contrived reveal. it wasn't even like she was important and was giving intel about the therapist she was buddies with

big reveals don't hit when you look back and go, "how in the holy fukk could i have ever suspected that in any way?" you need more breadcrumb. you need to have a list of potential victims/killers/etc so that you can look back at some point and go, "ahhhhh, i should have clocked that in episode 4! wow, that was great foreshadowing!!"

we basically get introduced to this doughy foreman out of nowhere and they cut to him being a librarian we met one time for 30 seconds where nothing nefarious is really hinted at. that sucks.
Cheap writing. Through and through. They were honestly better off not making this a whodunnit. Show was intriguing enough on its own.
 

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Me and wifey definitely debating/arguing cause she absolutely on yall side :dead:

She is absolutely not willing to rock with the librarian having perfect opportunity to kill the president like he did. But imo, that is why Billy and Jane got scolded like they did....they were literally the WORST fukking secret service bodyguards you could ask for....mufukkas turning off cameras, sleeping on couches just not giving a damn about that man's safety :mjlol: :mjlol: :mjlol: And their stupid ass habits wound up getting the president killed...this nikka who didn't plan a thing, running off pure emotion was able to finish his mission because yall fukking sucked at yall job. But when you really start to think about it, it clears because them being secret service members were just covers for the real reason they were there...they didn't give a damn about Cal safety, they didn't live and would die for this shyt like Xavier did


The lax approach in Paradise, I can get with b/c if you're in a contained area with essentially a focus group sized population that's restricted and they all had to be vetted and approved 10 times over, as security why wouldn't you be like fukk this shyt where the PS5 @ :russ:


The White House shyt is the one I'm not rollin' wit
 
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