Pandemic P says NBA players can make NFL easier than the vice versa

[Womb Raider]

Agreed, but a tall ass nikka like PG could only play TE or S. WR would be nice but idk if he’d be able to get off on elite CBs.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Every star perimeter player in the NBA could walk into the NFL right now and be Randy Moss

Never change coli.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

well this is obvious

 

[Apprentice]

Watchin nggas think they on some bully shyt then the thread immediately backfire is some funny shyt

2 of the greatest TEs of all time were ‘go get under the basket and catch my rebound’ basketball players…I went to VCU ngga we don’t even have a football team and our PF Mo Allie Cox is a starting NFL TE

Tony romo couldn’t make it in hoops so he said ahh fukk it I’ll go be a pro bowl QB

Of course he’s right

I’m at VCU rn and u needa stop talkin like Mo is comparable to NBA players

The undersized PFs can play in the NFL yea we kno that but that ain’t your common NBA player

 

[Braman]

Current/recent NBA that could play NFL

Nate Robinson- S
Draymond- TE
GP2- S
Marcus smart- S/WR
Donovan Mitchell- WR/DB
Pat Bev- S
Deanthony Melton- S
K. Lofton- D line/TE
Morant-WR
Dylan brooks-TE

etc etc there’s way more

Current or recent NFL that coulda played NBA:


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Even HS all Americans like Ronald curry and Ron Paulus were mid in college and wouldn’t be anywhere near the league

 

[IIVI]

Current/recent NBA that could play NFL

Nate Robinson- S
Draymond- TE
GP2- S
Marcus smart- S/WR
Donovan Mitchell- WR/DB
Pat Bev- S
Deanthony Melton- S
K. Lofton- D line/TE
Morant-WR
Dylan brooks-TE

etc etc there’s way more

Current or recent NFL that coulda played NBA:


……..………..

Even HS all Americans like Ronald curry and Ron Paulus were mid in college and wouldn’t be anywhere near the league

To be fair Ish Wainright couldn't make in the NFL (got cut by the Buffalo Bills) and now gets 15 mpg on the Phoenix Suns, shuts down Jayson Tatum, etc.




Additionally said that Buffalo Bills training camp was the toughest experience he went through.

Ironically, dude going to play this series and PG13 may not.

 

[Braman]

To be fair Ish Wainright couldn't make in the NFL (got cut by the Buffalo Bills) and now gets 15 mpg on the Phoenix Suns, shuts down Jayson Tatum, etc.




Additionally said that Buffalo Bills training camp was the toughest experience he went through.

Ironically, dude going to play this series and PG13 may not.

Dude must be Ron Artest level defensively. Just looked him up and he never even averaged more than 6 a game in college.

Moreso a testament to how little wing depth Phoenix has but yea he made it

 

[CarltonJunior]

With his eating habits and measureables he is ELITE LT prospect.. Dude can be his natural 350 and wouldnt get shamed for it like he does now.. WOW.. He might be playing wrong sport for real

Dude at a similar weight as penei sewell would be what burrow needs to finally win it all

 

[Marc Spector]

Come on now. You wrote this up like they're all super heroes. Simmons and Westbrook ain't elite passers. Draymond is a product of the W's system and familiarity with Steph and Klay. I'm not letting you get that off. Pat Bev is just scrappy. He ain't no elite defensive wizard and neither is Simmons. I've seen them ALL handle the ball and none of the people I listed are beating the press with their handling except Simmons.



The number one thing needed to play in the NFL is mental toughness. We just saw a scenario where Zion was dunking in pre-game of the play in, but sat out and CJ was subbing him in his press conference. That NEVER happens in football. There's zero load management. If you're having a shytty game you can't free throw line flop your way to a win.

Do you know what NBA players have against them when it comes to football? Their height. They're tall and slim and weak. Football is a game of leverage that most NBA players are at an extreme disadvantage. The best most of them could be in an NFL WR and most of them ain't getting off the line of scrimmage. KD couldn't bench 225 once. Darius Slay is throwing KD into the water bottles just to prove a point. What y'all think Steph is doing out there? Devin Booker? Nah. Jokic or Luka? fukk nah. Even with the smaller cats in the NBA, to be that size in the NFL, you need to be able to jump out the bed and run a 4.4. Trae Young ain't fast. Who y'all think Spencer Dinwiddie is running away from? Tyler Herro and Duncan Robinson would be handing out water bottles and holding helmets. For this argument to work y'all gotta pretend every NBA player is Bron or Malone or Giannis and that they'd be exactly like Antonio Gates.

The super funny part is the NBA players don't even use their height to their advantage in their own sport. They're ALL shooters now. There's maybe three or four players who can actually work someone in the post where their height matters. There's more NFL players that can hold a 8-12 position on an NBA team than NBA players could play more than 15 snaps as a NFL player.

The only thing this argument ever proves is that most of y'all have no idea what it means to be a really good football player. PG ain't even play football in high school so how the fukk would he know anyway?

you making good sense in the bolded but kangaraoo boy is a elite passer when he gives a damn and decideds to play. Russ is a good passer when hes dialed in, hes just inconsistent with using that skill. Dray was a high level point forward back in MSU so i dunno why you think hes only a GSW product. Pat Bev is well yea, mostly scrappy but he does have high bball iq to know when to be aggressive on d and when to facilitate the offense

 

[IIVI]

Come on now. You wrote this up like they're all super heroes. Simmons and Westbrook ain't elite passers. Draymond is a product of the W's system and familiarity with Steph and Klay. I'm not letting you get that off. Pat Bev is just scrappy. He ain't no elite defensive wizard and neither is Simmons. I've seen them ALL handle the ball and none of the people I listed are beating the press with their handling except Simmons.



The number one thing needed to play in the NFL is mental toughness. We just saw a scenario where Zion was dunking in pre-game of the play in, but sat out and CJ was subbing him in his press conference. That NEVER happens in football. There's zero load management. If you're having a shytty game you can't free throw line flop your way to a win.

Do you know what NBA players have against them when it comes to football? Their height. They're tall and slim and weak. Football is a game of leverage that most NBA players are at an extreme disadvantage. The best most of them could be in an NFL WR and most of them ain't getting off the line of scrimmage. KD couldn't bench 225 once. Darius Slay is throwing KD into the water bottles just to prove a point. What y'all think Steph is doing out there? Devin Booker? Nah. Jokic or Luka? fukk nah. Even with the smaller cats in the NBA, to be that size in the NFL, you need to be able to jump out the bed and run a 4.4. Trae Young ain't fast. Who y'all think Spencer Dinwiddie is running away from? Tyler Herro and Duncan Robinson would be handing out water bottles and holding helmets. For this argument to work y'all gotta pretend every NBA player is Bron or Malone or Giannis and that they'd be exactly like Antonio Gates.

The super funny part is the NBA players don't even use their height to their advantage in their own sport. They're ALL shooters now. There's maybe three or four players who can actually work someone in the post where their height matters. There's more NFL players that can hold a 8-12 position on an NBA team than NBA players could play more than 15 snaps as a NFL player.

The only thing this argument ever proves is that most of y'all have no idea what it means to be a really good football player. PG ain't even play football in high school so how the fukk would he know anyway?

Yup. Only 3 6'5+ WRs have made the football Hall of Fame, and none of them have a Super Bowl ring.
It's rare a tall, lanky player has the short range quickness to get open when a QB needs them to.

Randy Moss was an insane route runner, not a lot of 6'5 people can move like that.

Additionally, not too many lanky ones got the hands and concentration to pull in 60 mph thrown footballs either.

Catches like these are what people fail to realize you need to be able to pull in, bullet passes with defenses closing in:

These are not easy catches. TV don't do it justice. Look at how fast that ball travels 10 yards (30 feet).
To scale 10 yards is your typical logo three in the NBA.

Camera angles don't scale well
Got to think of the passes Moss has caught from: Cunningham, Culpepper, Favre, Brady, Kaepernick, etc.
All QB's who have rocket arms and they definitely threw it in windows from 10 yards away.

Same goes for Megatron with Stafford.

Elite WR's/TE's (especially TE's) got to catch those high-velocity passes thrown in tight windows to be dominant.
Some NBA players can't even pull down easy open rebounds, how they going to catch bullet passes with defenders closing in?
There ain't no excuses if the ball hits you in the numbers but you can't pull it in because it was "too fast".
As a WR you only get so many passes thrown your way, there's no "I'll get it next time down the court".
Not everyone built for that and got the ego to be chewed out by the QB and coaches for dropping those passes.
QB's who can throw that shyt 75+ yards will also be throwing 65 mph laser beams you're expected to catch. Then the very next play catch a 10 mph floater thrown over defenders.

Way too different of skillsets and prototypes, I'll keep it at that.

 

[Marc Spector]

People make too big a deal of height. Remember, the taller you are meaning the slower you can turn. Your quarterback can't afford all day for you to get open if you can't shake coverage.

Darrelle Revis was 5'11 yet there were 6'5 physical freak WRs like Calvin Johnson who had phenomenal hands, yet could only manage 1 catch/13 yards vs the coverage.

Also why Ramsey is a elite corner. He isnt very big compared to say TEs or NBA players (6’1/194) but dude is ridiculously strong for his size and not easy to separate from.

In fact, proportionate strength is one thing not being taken into account as a gift that alot of NfL players have.

 

[IIVI]

Also why Ramsey is a elite corner. He isnt very big compared to say TEs or NBA players (6’1/194) but dude is ridiculously strong for his size and not easy to separate from.

In fact, proportionate strength is one thing not being taken into account as a gift that alot of NfL players have.

Ramsey was the highest rated tackler in the league actually. Great tackling technique (don't go for hard hits) and insanely strong, both in press and taking players down.

 

[calh45]

you making good sense in the bolded but kangaraoo boy is a elite passer when he gives a damn and decideds to play. Russ is a good passer when hes dialed in, hes just inconsistent with using that skill. Dray was a high level point forward back in MSU so i dunno why you think hes only a GSW product. Pat Bev is well yea, mostly scrappy but he does have high bball iq to know when to be aggressive on d and when to facilitate the offense

I try to stay out of these arguments because the idea of football is warped in folks' minds that they think an NBA can just pop over there. Football is a game of leverage and center of gravity. Anyone over 6'6", without the body type to be a left tackle (Jokic or Embiid), are cooked in the NFL......and even those two are getting ran over by defensive end because they are too tall. Anyone over 6'6" is not getting in and out of routes against NFL defenders just on how their body is built. The tallest effective WR anyone will see in the NFL is 6'5" for a real reason. Their gait gives away what they're doing on routes. Unless they're exceptionally fast they're an interception waiting to happen. Anyone over 6'6", outside of Bron or Giannis, is cooked.......and that's mostly because both are physical anomalies. Those two would be deep ball specialists because of the ground they could cover.

The primary example that's always touted is Antonio Gates who was 6'4" 260 pounds. Julian Thomas was 6'5" 260 pounds. Draymond at 6'6" and 230 pounds is not going to be an NFL TE.

Out of the whole NBA right now, I'd say Westbrook and Bron could make the transition to a WR because they're stout and fast......maybe Giannis too because he's a dog. The whole statement PG made was about the overall NBA players vs NFL players, and on the face of it an NFL player would be a pretty good defensive specialist in the NBA a LOT easier than the vast majority of NBA players could do anything in the NFL.

I'm not even getting into real logistic shyt yet either. The idea that an NFL player, who has to memorize a 200 page playbook every year, would be lacking in "basketball IQ" to comprehend the flow of an NBA team's playbook with their 10-20 plays is fukking insane.

BONUS - Do y'all in this thread really think that basketball players didn't try this shyt in college in the pre-twitter/social days? Because they did. As soon as they started talking cash money shyt we'd invite them out to our summer 7x7s. The first thing that happen is they'd say "Damn how y'all big AND fast??" and the second thing that happens is they usually leave after a DB catch them with the foot back two hand jam on the line.......They'd NEVER do that shyt now because it'd be all over the internet in 20 minutes. Basketball players saying this ain't new to none of us.

That's all I'm saying in this thread now. I'm cool on it.

 

[calh45]

Tony Gonzalez too

TG was a football player. This is wrong as fukk. He was an all american football player in high school. In college, he was a basketball player for fun on the side. Mariucci let him play basketball as a recruiting tactic.

 

[the next guy]

My question is why do basketball players hold on to this tho

It don’t even be the good hoopers who be elite at football, AI and LeBron the only examples I hear

PG couldn’t play the NFL himself, what position would he play?

WR

DK Metcalf can play in the League and PG can't? Come on