He is going to have a lot of leverage going forward based on this and the Ferry situation. He is writing his own ticket at this point.I know this is the last thing i should be worried bout right now but do y'all think coach Bud is going to stay?Because the whole league gonna be after his ass.I hope we can give him whatever he wants.And he wants to stay and finish what he started and not want to start over.How soon will we get a new owner in there?
Pac's Resurrection: The Official 2014-15 Atlanta Hawks Season Thread
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FreshFromATL
Self Made
I fully expect him to have the largest contract in coaching history if the Hawks win the ship
FreshFromATL
Self Made
Ray Ray to the Hawks or nah?
Who's role would he fill? Bazemore? Thabo? I would HATE to see our chemistry get fukked-off by this type of move. ESPECIALLY when dude hasn't played in the system OR even played yet this year. I'll pass...
AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
I know this is the last thing i should be worried bout right now but do y'all think coach Bud is going to stay?Because the whole league gonna be after his ass.I hope we can give him whatever he wants.And he wants to stay and finish what he started and not want to start over.How soon will we get a new owner in there?
I guess I don't understand why you would be worried he would leave. He has everything he would want ( keep in mind he's also the acting GM right now too) so he has job security, a team he built and he's already winning. Outside of something unforeseen, what motivation would he have to leave? He still hasn't really won anything...IDK I don't see this as a reason to be concerned
@FreshFromATL about Ray Allen, you can never have too many shooters
, especially one with his resume. Worst case scenario you keep him from CLE or somebody else we might see in the playoffs. Ray's a HOF and the ultimate pro, I'd love to see his professionalism rub off on Schroeder, Baze, Mike Scott and the other young'ins on the squad
FreshFromATL
Self Made
I guess I don't understand why you would be worried he would leave. He has everything he would want ( keep in mind he's also the acting GM right now too) so he has job security, a team he built and he's already winning. Outside of something unforeseen, what motivation would he have to leave? He still hasn't really won anything...IDK I don't see this as a reason to be concerned
@FreshFromATL about Ray Allen, you can never have too many shooters
Can't really disagree with any of this
AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
@#1 pick was very high on him...I could see it in spurts, but now you see it in fruition. He. & Teague complement each other well...it's like seeing Tony Parker & Rondo in the same backcourt. The better Schroeder gets being a legitimate scorer, b/c they're still giving him a wide open jumper, you'll start to really see him take off
Just the uncertainty with the owner mostly.And who knows maybe he's always looked at us as a transition job.He's from Arizona.Maybe he could be looking to go back to the west coast.I'm just praying for some stability.
AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
Can't really disagree with any of this
I do see your point about the rotation, but let's look at it if we added Ray
F Scott
C Antic
G/F Bazemore
G Schroeder
G Allen
F Thabo
G Mack
C Muscala
That second unit gets stronger wit Ray but you may have to deactivate Mack to make it work...IDK I'd like a big before we add Ray, he'd be more of a luxury than a need, but I'd love to have him
AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
I see what you're saying & we won't kno till the sale happens. I can't imagine new ownership getting rid of him or Ferry at this point (I've done a 180 on Ferry since last summer, I want him back as the active GM ASAP, trade deadline is coming up & we need to be ready to be active if need be). I think the new owners will give them what they need to continue to be successful
I think if we sign Ray, we'd probably end up getting rid of John Jenkins, and frankly I'm OK with that. With the mins John was getting, chemistry isn't a concern, I doubt the drop off defensively is noticeable, and we essentially trade inexperience for championship experience.
But I also agree with your point about getting a big. I'm really almost done with Pero. He's cost us chances to gain big leads and put teams away. Turnovers, missed wide open shots, bad fouls. If he's not hitting 3s, idk how useful he is. I rather get a big thats sole focus is rebound and alter shots.
do the rosters expand for the Playoffs?
Sly Cookin
based
Is ray allen at this point in his career really better than mack? Do we want to send those negative vibes into the locker room especially with how mack and jenkins have earned their way in? I think I would pass tbh. Not like ray was shooting at a high clip last yr and I definitely dont want to see him put the ball on the floor.
AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
Yea JJ probably goes back to the D League if we get Ray but JJ doesn't really play that much anyway. Ray would take minutes from Thabo, Schroeder & Baze. That's why you'd have to really consider it b/c you'd be messing with the guys who actually are playing significant minutes & doing well right now
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ATLANTA -- The No. 657 northbound car on the MARTA train left the downtown Five Points station just after 11 p.m. without a seat available and jammed with people standing shoulder to shoulder.
If anyone was tired, it hardly showed.
If anyone was uncomfortable, you'd never know.
About 60 percent of the passengers on this Gold Line train to Doraville were white and the majority of the rest were black. And just about all perked up when the train pulled into the next station, where a middle-aged black man who just got off work stepped on and immediately asked the question after spotting noise-making sticks and replica jerseys.
"Did the Hawks win?"
The answer was shouted from four rows of seats away by a white man with a beard and brown hair.
"We were the best team in the league before tonight's game," he said loudly enough for the entire train car to hear. "And we're definitely the best team in the league after what we did to those Warriors."
Loud cheers and laughter erupted. By the time the train pushed into the North Avenue stop at11:08, the "Let's Go Hawks" chant ripped through the car. Although the Hawks were roiled by questions of racial insensitivity in ownership and management during the offseason, the only version of race that seemed to matter on No. 657 northbound to Doraville was the one to the best record in the NBA this season.
This is just a small slice of the Atlanta that these Hawks are playing for as they took another step in a magical season in Friday's showdown between the two best teams in the league. The Hawks ran away from the Golden State Warriors 124-116 in a game that was widely billed as an NBA Finals preview -- and certainly drew the media coverage of a playoff series in June.
Since having their franchise-record winning streak snapped at 20 games Monday with a loss in New Orleans, the Hawks have regrouped by beating the rugged Wizards on Wednesday and then taking out the swift, sharp-shooting Warriors on Friday. Atlanta's gantlet of a week wraps on the road Sunday against a Memphis team that has the second-best record in the West behind Golden State (39-9).
The Hawks (42-9) have won 35 of their past 38 games, have already eclipsed their win total from 2013-14, have dominated the best teams in both conferences so far and eventually wore down a Warriors team that boasts the most explosive backcourt in the league. The always humble Hawks didn't celebrate or get too emotional about Friday's victory, but 3-point specialist Kyle Korver did take a little aim at skeptics who might still be reluctant to believe in what his team is capable of accomplishing.
"I feel like last year, we kind of put the bones in of who we were going to be," Korver said. "We've been confident. We feel like when we're healthy, we have a lot of unique pieces. It's a lot of talk of us not having a so-called superstar. But we have good players, man. And we fit well together."
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AP Photo/John BazemoreAl Horford and the Hawks couldn't be stopped by Marreese Speights and the Warriors.
There was indisputable evidence of that on the way to making their latest league-wide statement. Seven Hawks players scored in double figures, led by their All-Star trio of Jeff Teague, Paul Millsap and Al Horford. During a pregame ceremony, they were presented their official All-Star jerseys for next week's game in New York. Then Teague went out and scored 23 points and forcedStephen Curry into a rough start after the MVP candidate came off a 51-point effort in Golden State's previous game.
Millsap did what he always does -- a little bit of everything on both ends of the court -- and finished with 21 points, four rebounds, three assists, three steals and a block. And Horford, perhaps the one irreplaceable player on this team, added 12 points, 14 rebounds and six assists.
The good pieces extend far beyond those three and to a supporting cast that saw Korver knock down five 3-pointers, Mike Scott come off the bench for 17 points on a combination of dunks and long-range daggers, and both Kent Bazemore and DeMarre Carroll provide essential defensive energy. Backup point guard Dennis Schroder had nine points and dished seven assists.
This is who they've been all season, and that balance and brilliance were rewarded when the league office made an unprecedented decision to award the NBA player of the week award to the Hawks' entire starting unit of Teague, Horford, Millsap, Carroll and Korver.
Carroll said Atlanta is successful because everyone keeps the formula simple. There's no showboating or gloating after dunks, no excessive celebrations during timeouts after big plays, no nonsense.
"We go out there and handle business," Carroll said. "You go out there and do your job. Then you go home to your family. We don't try to humiliate anybody or show anybody up. We let the ATL fans do that. This was two of the best teams playing. It's one of those games that you dream about."
Both teams tried to downplay the significance of the matchup. But that didn't last very long. Before the game, Warriors coach Steve Kerr saw the massive media presence at the morning shootaround and greeted reporters by saying, "welcome to the Finals."
"It's one game out of 82," Kerr said. "I think in the end, win or lose, it probably doesn't mean that much. But whenever you play the team from the opposite conference that is clearly the best team and has been dominating ... it's a great challenge."
Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer also acknowledges there was a measuring-stick element to the game.
"You learn more about yourself," Budenholzer said. "There are some things we can build on. You always look forward to these games when you're going to be really tested and really challenged. You learn how much focus it takes to beat a team like this."
Teague said the Hawks didn't need the victory to validate anything.
"We already know we're a good team," Teague said. "We come out every night and just try to play like we're supposed to play. We do that and everything really does fall into place."
Yet still, this is a franchise that draws motivation from the doubters.
Seconds after the final buzzer sounded, the arena announcer posed a question over the loud speakers.
"Now do you believe?" he said. "Any questions?"
That swagger spilled into Atlanta's downtown streets Friday night.
And it permeated the city's train transit system.
Back on the No. 657 train car, a Warriors fan among the dozens of Hawks supporters was asked by someone in the group how it felt to root for "clearly the second-best team" in the league.
"I like the Hawks, too," the fan said. "I grew up here in Georgia, but I went to college with Steph Curry."
Another Hawks fan seated near the front of the train overheard the conversation and chimed in.
"So you were going to get on here after the game in a win-win situation, no matter what," he said.
Both men, initially strangers, got off together at the Lenox having agreed on at least one thing.
Inside the arena and out, these high-flying Hawks are taking this city on a harmonious NBA ride.
