Pacquiao vs Mayweather Official Thread...May 2nd!!!

Who takes this fight?


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Marquez definitely won the 3rd fight rather clearly to me. But it reminds me of what Naazim once said about Manny all he has to do is bob around stutter step without even throwing a punch and people will automatically give him the round just based off his movement.



Absolutley alot of people had the Cotto fight closer than it was based off Cottos activity alone ,same with the Delahoya fight


Except for the knock down in the 3rd round Mosley had Manny looking down right foolish at times in their fight . Naz said he saw a flaw in Mannys style and ther is no way the Mayweathers being the boxing experts that they are dont see it as well.
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Pacquiao’s defect…
“You can easily go back and watch Shane Mosley box Pacquiao and you see him get hurt and you wonder why he never gets hurt again. And if you just watch the fight and once you see that, every fighter is going to apply that method. Marquez did it in this fight and everybody else is going to do it. And once that’s revealed, eventually it’s just a matter of a timeline. It’s whether Freddie is going to make adjustments to the guy because it’s hard because the defect he has, he’s had since he’s been boxing. So for them to change it now, I even saw when they were trying to change it. So, like I said, I don’t underestimate anybody, so for me to sit here and think that the Mayweather and their high IQ of boxing that they have, they haven’t see it, would be ludicrous for me to think in that capacity.”


Marquez VS Paquiao 3 proved Freddie is unable to fix that defect . shyt even Bradley 2 proves it

Profound quote from Brother Naz and I agree with your comments that, if there is something there, then they already know about it. Perhaps that is why Roach is saying things like dominate from round one because as time goes on, whatever is there, if there at all, will be revealed by Floyd in the ring.
 

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Head to head matchups, Nadal has him beat 70% of the time breh. That is mastery. If this were something like 55/45, sure but 70% of the time?
Ok i feel you on your angle and why you're choosing to go thst route...but its flawed my nicca...extremely flawed.

Half of their matches have been on clay which gives nadal a lopsided advantage when it comes to looking at their head to head cos NOONE and I mean NOONE is going to dominate or even beat nadal on clay consistently...hence why hes the GOAT on that surface. Niccas forget federer was whooping EVERYONE else on clay except nadal. As soon as nadal wasnt there in the final he won the french open. also just to emphasise how much his clay court dominance schewes his numbers, out of his 14 grand slam titles...9 are from clay court. That's 64% of his titles coming from 1 surface out of the four...thats damn near 2/3's of his grand slam totals :damn: on 1 fuccin surface

Meanwhile federers sh1ts are spread out pretty evenly except for the french open for obvs reasons (4 australian, 7 wimbeldon, 5 us, 1 french) showing his all round game is god tier...whilst also having the most grand slam titles of ANY MAN EVER (that alone tells you he's goat and best of his era)...he equalled sampras's total wimbeldon tally and equalled borgs wimbeldon streak, has been in the most grand slam finals, got the most hard court titles, got the most grass titles, got the most match wins (279), got the goat us open gram slam streak (5), has the goat win %'s on grass AND hard court, won the most consrcutive finals, semi finals, has the goat us open streak, has reached the most finals ON ALL 4 SURFACES, has the most multiple years winning MULTIPLE gram slam you really check dat boys stats cos im only scratching the surface my nicca :jawalrus: dont make me do it cos i can overdo it


Also, acting like head to head stats solely determines whose the best of an era is supremely flawed in a sport like tennis or even with boxing cos another example i can bring up is that nadal stylistically is federers nightmare. The strengths of his game specifically attack federer's weakest points. The fact federer had the skill and ability to seitch his whole style up only for nadal matches and get wins against him even accenuates his GOATness.

Also...nadal and federers true peak primes missed eachothers...nadal came into what we see as his prime thus far on the back end of rogers.


This post btw is not dimishing nadals achievements, atg status etc but his clay court goatness really lopsides his status because hes been basically garaunteed a grand slam a year whilst not dominating any other surface to any real degree.

Roger has clapped everyone that stood before him on every surface (bar nadal on clay) and there's a reason why your opinion is not the majority and mine is


Oh oh and lastly ( this is the best stat to throw up :youngsabo:)...he has the GOAT and longest streak of being ranked no.1 (237 consecutive weeks (2004-08)) thats 4 YEARS and some change :damn::damn::damn::damn:...he was a couple of months away from being ranked no.1 for half a decade :ld: kinda sez it all there about being the best of an era don'tcha think???


So is nadal the best of his era.....no breh...just no :mjlol: (and i can continue dropping dem hot stats too if you want? :sas1:)
 
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Ok i feel you on your angle and why you're choosing to go thst route...but its flawed my nicca...extremely flawed.

Half of their matches have been on clay which gives nadal a lopsided advantage when it comes to looking at their head to head cos NOONE and I mean NOONE is going to dominate or even beat nadal on clay consistently...hence why hes the GOAT on that surface. Niccas forget federer was whooping EVERYONE else on clay except nadal. As soon as nadal wasnt there in the final he won the french open. also just to emphasise how much his clay court dominance schewes his numbers, out of his 14 grand slam titles...9 are from clay court. That's 64% of his titles coming from 1 surface out of the four...thats damn near 2/3's of his grand slam totals :damn: on 1 fuccin surface

Meanwhile federers sh1ts are spread out pretty evenly except for the french open for obvs reasons (4 australian, 7 wimbeldon, 5 us, 1 french) showing his all round game is god tier...whilst also having the most grand slam titles of ANY MAN EVER (that alone tells you he's goat and best of his era)...he equalled sampras's total wimbeldon tally and equalled borgs wimbeldon streak, has been in the most grand slam finals, got the most hard court titles, got the most grass titles, got the most match wins (279), got the goat us open gram slam streak (5), has the goat win %'s on grass AND hard court, won the most consrcutive finals, semi finals, has the goat us open streak, has reached the most finals ON ALL 4 SURFACES, has the most multiple years winning MULTIPLE gram slam you really check dat boys stats cos im only scratching the surface my nicca :jawalrus: dont make me do it cos i can overdo it


Also, acting like head to head stats solely determines whose the best of an era is supremely flawed in a sport like tennis or even with boxing cos another example i can bring up is that nadal stylistically is federers nightmare. The strengths of his game specifically attack federer's weakest points. The fact federer had the skill and ability to seitch his whole style up only for nadal matches and get wins against him even accenuates his GOATness.

Also...nadal and federers true peak primes missed eachothers...nadal came into what we see as his prime thus far on the back end of rogers.


This post btw is not dimishing nadals achievements, atg status etc but his clay court goatness really lopsides his status because hes been basically garaunteed a grand slam a year whilst not dominating any other surface to any real degree.

Roger has clapped everyone that stood before him on every surface (bar nadal on clay) and there's a reason why your opinion is not the majority and mine is


Oh oh and lastly ( this is the best stat to throw up :youngsabo:)...he has the GOAT and longest streak of being ranked no.1 (237 consecutive weeks (2004-08)) thats 4 YEARS and some change :damn::damn::damn::damn:...he was a couple of months away from being ranked no.1 for half a decade :ld: kinda sez it all there about being the best of an era don'tcha think???


So is nadal the best of his era.....no breh...just no :mjlol: (and i can continue dropping dem hot stats too if you want? :sas1:)

Of course, I'm simplifying it but that is a question that Roger faces all the time. I would still personally put Roger all time best but Rafa, primarily on clay, is his Achilles Heel.
 

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Man some of y'all need to do the knowledge on Floyd AND Pac-man. How some of y'all are stans without knowing anything about these guys is outrageous.


:mjlol: at cats thinking Arum had Manny created in some laboratory just to fight Floyd and be his personal villain for 6 years.
 

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Man some of y'all need to do the knowledge on Floyd AND Pac-man. How some of y'all are stans without knowing anything about these guys is outrageous.


It kills me breh....kills me:wow:


Like, damn...at least talk down on Floyd/Manny with proper respect and knowledge of their careers at the same time.


nikka I quoted above acting like Manny doesnt have 2 scalps of HOFers on his resume before Floyd even fought DLH (which made him The Man after he won):snoop:
 
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It kills me breh....kills me:wow:


Like, damn...at least talk down on Floyd/Manny with proper respect and knowledge of their careers at the same time.


nikka I quoted above acting like Manny has doesnt have 3 scalps of HOFers on his resume before Floyd even fought DLH (which made him The Man after he won):snoop:


Yeah I feel you breh. That's why I can't chill in this thread hard body everyday like that. Some posts literally have me like...:mjlol::what::mindblown::camby:
 
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