I know there are room for cuts, but I really don't see a problem with having a bigger budget, IF it were going to keep some essential programs/departments running. However, the way things are set up, we (the people) will just end up paying for it. It sucks.
Over/Under ObamaCare gets Repealed? *Edit* Entire Law Upheld
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I know there are room for cuts, but I really don't see a problem with having a bigger budget, IF it were going to keep some essential programs/departments running. However, the way things are set up, we (the people) will just end up paying for it. It sucks.
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Jesus H. Christ
I died for your sins
lets be real brehs, obama had 2 YEARS to do whatever he wanted. he was so naive when he came in thinking republicans would work with him. remember when he had that nationally televised meeting with republicans.
cmon b. he should have road that wave he was on from inauguration night and got everything done EARLY.
i bet he has a lot of regrets.
Real shyt, this president is way too nice and soft with these republicans, but he's quick to to shyt on his own base.
That health care debate made me realize how soft this president is. Getting on press conference talking about how "republicans aren't bad people, we just have mutual disagreements". I'm like
they are trying to make you a one term president and you over here being nice with them.
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I swear the world is so obsessed with Obama that they stay missing the bigger picture.
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I swear the world is so obsessed with Obama that they stay missing the bigger picture.
But this law doesnt ensure that every American is insured...
Real shyt, this president is way too nice and soft with these republicans, but he's quick to to shyt on his own base.
That health care debate made me realize how soft this president is. Getting on press conference talking about how "republicans aren't bad people, we just have mutual disagreements". I'm like
Word. Obama should have fought for the Public Option at the very least. If they are going to strike down your law, it might as well be a law that your base is solidly behind.
Don't take half measures that try to please both sides when your opponents have no intention of compromising and simultaneously disappoints your base.
Word. Obama should have fought for the Public Option at the very least. If they are going to strike down your law, it might as well be a law that your base is solidly behind.
Don't take half measures that try to please both sides when your opponents have no intention of compromising and simultaneously disappoints your base.
I think it was Obama's arrogance more than anything that convinced him that the states wouldnt join together to get this law repealed..
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i'm saying a pray tonight brehs. hopefully roberts has some sort of heart or at least some guilt. 
on msnbc they are bringing up all these polls showing the majority of the public have no earthly idea what's in the bill. i know republicans did a masterful job of manipulating the public into thinking this is something that it really isn't, but obama has to take some blame for the terrible messaging of the whole thing.
i'm sure regardless of how it was polling it would have went to the supreme court but i think someone like roberts would have a harder time striking down the bill if it was polling 60% positively instead of 60% negatively right now.
today will be a sad day for a lot of people.
i'm sure regardless of how it was polling it would have went to the supreme court but i think someone like roberts would have a harder time striking down the bill if it was polling 60% positively instead of 60% negatively right now.
today will be a sad day for a lot of people.
wow this piece of shyt Boehner said if the supreme court only strikes down the mandate that house republicans will move to repeal the rest of the bill. 
i thought republicans only issue was with mandate. these cacs are going to repeal a bill that's helping college kids, poor people and people w/ pre-existing conditions? fukking devils.
i thought republicans only issue was with mandate. these cacs are going to repeal a bill that's helping college kids, poor people and people w/ pre-existing conditions? fukking devils.
I think the only "messaging" that works is people experiencing something. You could talk til you're blue in the face about something, but until a person experience it themselves they probably won't listen or care.
Its the same shyt that happened with Medicare...people were mad skeptical about it at first but once decades of grandparents/parents experienced it...shyt like this happens:
Its the same shyt that happened with Medicare...people were mad skeptical about it at first but once decades of grandparents/parents experienced it...shyt like this happens:
Exactly...the messaging of the Healthcare reform was terrible, particularly on part of the President and the Democrats as a whole. They allowed the GOP to spread lies and deception about things that were going to be a part of the bill (anyone remember death panels?), and focused on passing the bill without worrying about selling the bill first.
The irony is that while a majority of people are opposed to "Obamacare", if you poll on the major provisions that the law helped to change, support for those reforms are overwhelmingly supportive.
Personally, I think the SC will find the mandate unconstitutional, and will leave most of the other parts of the law intact.
I did read that there are some keeping the hope alive that the SC will rule the law constitutional, based partly on Chief Justice Roberts dissent from the Juvenile Sentencing ruling that was released on Monday.
Personally though, I think it's
for the law, because without the mandate there really isn't a mechanism to help drive down costs which was the main point of reform.
Personally though, I think it's
Pretty much
Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
wow this piece of shyt Boehner said if the supreme court only strikes down the mandate that house republicans will move to repeal the rest of the bill.
i thought republicans only issue was with mandate. these cacs are going to repeal a bill that's helping college kids, poor people and people w/ pre-existing conditions? fukking devils.
Breh, he's been saying that since the sh1t passed. Fukk him
I didnt realize how soft that mandate is. They have no desire to penalize people. Its not a mandate
Obama is gonna take some Ls today. Im going to try to avoid the news today. First his signature bill gets murked and then his AG gets got. Republicans are going to be giddy as fukk.
Its easy to realize that Dems just cant govern. Its like 2 or 3 separate parties in one and they rarely can agree. Too many conservative dems. No liberal republicans.
Then the GOP controls the news. I just dont see this powerful liberal media people talk about.