Orange Is the New Black: The Final Season (Official Season 7 Thread)

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Yea. That scene with them trying kids in court was disgusting. I’m really hoping that’s not happening, the deportation of kids I’m sure is happening, but putting them on trial? I surely hope not

it's real.:francis:

An Immigration Attorney on What It’s Like to Represent Small Children Taken from Their Parents

A judge thinks 3-year-olds can defend themselves, so immigration lawyers tried it on their own kids

Can young children represent themselves in immigration court? One federal immigration judge thinks so.

Judge Jack Weil is assistant chief immigration judge for the U.S. Department of Justice. Part of his job includes coordinating training for other immigration judges and court staff. In a recently unsealed deposition, he asserted that migrant children as young as 3 are capable of representing themselves in deportation hearings.

The judge was speaking as an expert witness on behalf of the government in a case about whether unaccompanied minors who cross the border into the United States should be provided with legal counsel.

In his opinion, no.

"I've taught immigration law literally to 3-year-olds and 4-year-olds. It takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of patience," Weil said. "They get it. It's not the most efficient, but it can be done."

"I have trained 3-year-olds and 4-year-olds in immigration law. You can do a fair hearing," the judge elaborated. "It's going to take you a lot of time. But I really think that a great alternative to terminating a case for a child who may be eligible for relief where there's no counsel is to proceed very slowly, very carefully, and I'm going to tap every single resource I can to see if I can get the some help."

(The American Civil Liberties Union posted a transcript of the hearing last month. There is no guarantee of counsel in immigration court.)

So: Can 3- and 4-year-olds competently represent themselves in court? Immigration attorney Amy Maldonado decided to find out. She created a YouTube page where (adult) immigration lawyers put toddlers on trial.

"I actually have seen children in immigration court without lawyers," said Amy Maldonado, a business immigration attorney who lives in East Lansing, Mich. "They're little children who can't read and can barely understand what's going on."

She's part of a Facebook group in which immigration attorneys regularly discuss articles and news related to their field. Many in the group were frustrated by Weil's comments, and one lawyer, Amber Weeks, posted a video of herself grilling her toddler with immigration court questions.

At the group's urging, Maldonado created the YouTube page collecting videos of people holding mock deportation hearings with their children.

The children representing themselves -- just like actual 3- and 4-year-olds are currently expected to do -- face off against questions like "Do you designate a country for removal?" "What kind of relief would you like to seek?" and "Are either of your parents U.S. citizens?" You know. Totally normal stuff little kids know.

See how they do:







Though the videos are funny and charming, they underscore a serious issue.

"Immigration laws are more complex than the tax code," Maldonado said. "I wouldn't expect an adult to be able to explain what the nexus of their asylum claim is. And you're talking about people who are traumatized, who don't speak English fluently. … To me, it's a clear due-process violation."

video of immigration attorneys asking their toddlers questions detain children are expected to answer


Toddlers are having to appear in border courts all alone

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Kids as young as 1 must face immigration judge with their lawyer before reunited with family
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I can’t front. This season surprised me and I’m glad I ended up watching it. Was just gonna not bother with it like I did house of cards.

was a real tear jerker but I’m glad they toned down some of the antics after the riot. Ice shyt was hard to watch as well as any scene involving taystee.

Mendoza is sexy AF.

low key kinda sad this is over with now. I been kinda cool on the show for the last few seasons but it’s surreal to me that I been watch this show for 7 years and now it’s over.
Was watching the Sopranos this weekend and a young Mendoza popped up ass first on the screen ....not naked but a nice good shot ...it was early season 6 it was nice
 

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Just finished. They ended on a high note. I like the range of different endings. Shawty ended up in the desert by herself with a bottle of water. Smdh! Piper has always been a spoiled idiot. Daya going all out. But she was never that bright. Her and her mom dukes about to be like them sisters from last season. And it was nice that we saw the rest of the gang in Ohio before it ended.
 
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