Only 3% of Black students scored a 1200+ on the SAT

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

It's simple, we don't take school seriously.

This is not only a stupid take, it’s not based in any fact. If I didn’t know any better, I would assume you were a white person posing as a black person, or, at best, a c00n. So is everyone who dapped that filth.

SAT scores have little to do with “taking school serious” or even intelligence. It’s about knowing how to take a standardized test. Success on the SAT comes from repetition and classes specifically made for the exam, both of which are very expensive. Asians and white people, especially the highly educated, can afford to put their children in extra courses that cost thousands of dollars. They can also arrange transportation to get them there, etc.

The SAT is also obsolete. You don’t need it to get into college. And this coming from someone who had a 1200+ when the SAT mattered.

This is a typical c00n Bat Signal thread only made to speak down on black people. Notice these threads are inundated with supposedly black people who have no idea how statistics, facts, or education actually work.

The jig is up

 

[saturn7]

 

[OfTheCross]

25% is not "nearly half" breh

But still very impressive especially considering only 4% of white people scored 1400-1600.
The Asian score percentages also dwindled the lower the test scores got.

It's 47%, brother.

They smart.

 

[Consigliere]

Wow. And not surprising.

 

[Will Ross]

This is not only a stupid take, it’s not based in any fact. If I didn’t know any better, I would assume you were a white person posing as a black person, or, at best, a c00n. So is everyone who dapped that filth.

SAT scores have little to do with “taking school serious” or even intelligence. It’s about knowing how to take a standardized test. Success on the SAT comes from repetition and classes specifically made for the exam, both of which are very expensive. Asians and white people, especially the highly educated, can afford to put their children in extra courses that cost thousands of dollars. They can also arrange transportation to get them there, etc.

The SAT is also obsolete. You don’t need it to get into college. And this coming from someone who had a 1200+ when the SAT mattered.

This is a typical c00n Bat Signal thread only made to speak down on black people. Notice these threads are inundated with supposedly black people who have no idea how statistics, facts, or education actually work.

The jig is up

We have the lowest scores outta everyone and you think it not tied back to what is going on in the home

 

[Rekkapryde]

SAT is more about Test prep than education. Sort of like how a 4.0 gpa student can still fail their MCAT. Doesn't say anything about your education. Just how well you prepared for that particular test.

An realistically it takes money to be prepared properly for those type of exams. You can be the brightest student in your class but if your parents can't afford to enroll you in SAT prep courses online or with a tutor, you will be a disadvantage.

True, but still these numbers aren't good. Some colleges are eliminating the role of SAT scores in their admission process because of what you said at least.

I think my oldest takes his next year and my wife and I will 100% enroll him in SAT test prep classes. I will do everything in my power to put my children in a position to be successful come hell or high water breh. And if that means going without so that they can get those boosts then so be it.

But we've always placed a high priority on education in our home. You don't have to be rich/affluent to do that. Both my wife and I are college grads. Both of my wife's parents are retired teachers and were college educated at an HBCU. Told my sons from day 1 that we not with the shyts when it comes to your schooling. 2 of your grandparents being teachers, hate it has to be you.

As a culture we put more value in entertainment than education and I don't know honestly what can be done to fix it on a large scale.

Bottom line is that if you as parents prioritize it, even if you don't have the best means financially, you can still ensure your kids do well in their studies when you show how important it is in your home.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

So who's failing these black children—especially the boys?

The Negro Family: The Case for National Action

Office of Policy Planning and Research United States Department of Labor March 1965 Two hundred years ago, in 1765, nine assembled colonies first joined together to demand freedom from arbitrary power. For the first century we struggled to hold together the first continental union of democracy...

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The fundamental problem, in which this is most clearly the case, is that of family structure. The evidence — not final, but powerfully persuasive — is that the Negro family in the urban ghettos is crumbling. A middle class group has managed to save itself, but for vast numbers of the unskilled, poorly educated city working class the fabric of conventional social relationships has all but disintegrated. There are indications that the situation may have been arrested in the past few years, but the general post war trend is unmistakable. So long as this situation persists, the cycle of poverty and disadvantage will continue to repeat itself.

 

[SunnyD]

The parents, I'd say

Agreed. When I was younger I use to love to play “school” with my little cousins. I taught them how to read, write, and their math. All of them did well in school. Most of the kids today can use gadgets with ease, Tik Tok their hearts out, but don’t know basic math. I blame the parents.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Quality of schools plays a role but I'd suspect that white scores are higher for students who go to the same school as black students. Based on those numbers. I'd be curious what the scores for higher income black children are as well.

Are Asian children inherently smarter than everyone, or is this a direct correlation to parenting styles and who takes school more seriously. It's clearly the latter. Asian kids aren't being shuffled from one sport to another like white or black kids. Their parents are almost certainly more engaged with teachers, up to date on score tests, and demanding strict study hours daily.

I hope brehs realize...this is not sustainable. We are literally training ourselves to be a permanent underclass.

This is absolutely false. Asian kids are playing soccer, tennis, and other sports by the thousands. There are plenty of Asian kids failing school and going directly to work in nail salons after high school.

Once again, when you focus on the “cream of the crop” it’s easy to paint a pretty picture of success. Threads like this (which are created daily) focus on the worst of black statistics and compare them to the BEST of other minorities. It’s old and tired.

 

[Reflected]

What is to be expected? We can hardly get people to vote, let alone realize the state of the school systems is entirely political, but on top of that, if your school doesn't provide you the basis to perform decently, seeing as the SAT is entirely crystalized, then you rely on the second or third most important factor, which is cultural, but that cultural aspect, imo, can be thrown out because we can inform culture to a great degree with better opportunity, so that's why I said 2nd/3rd, because it can be interchanged with socioeconomic, of course I'm sure we can delve into cultural differences among test takers and see a performance difference, this is a bit more nuance than most will approach it, but I can't expect to see culture outperforming income on average.

Just note, the biggest influence, or predictor of SAT performance is the state of the school, it's really just better off students, financially, seeing as you want the basis (school) to serve as some cushion of support heading into the test, but that in combination with money, time, and parental attention towards test prep outside of school will obviously lead to better results beyond the school average.



Just throwing this out there before the "black people don't like education" nonsense, ironically, these types of arguments come from the target groups.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Quality of schools plays a role but I'd suspect that white scores are higher for students who go to the same school as black students. Based on those numbers. I'd be curious what the scores for higher income black children are as well.

Are Asian children inherently smarter than everyone, or is this a direct correlation to parenting styles and who takes school more seriously. It's clearly the latter. Asian kids aren't being shuffled from one sport to another like white or black kids. Their parents are almost certainly more engaged with teachers, up to date on score tests, and demanding strict study hours daily.

I hope brehs realize...this is not sustainable. We are literally training ourselves to be a permanent underclass.

Exactly. They walk it like they talk it. Its their culture.

 

[Consigliere]

It’s about knowing how to take a standardized test.

While this is true. Public school students spend an inordinate amount of their time prepping for and taking standardized tests. And it doesn’t seem to help their scores.

Private school kids get tutors to bump them from 12-1400 or from 13-1600. But the ability to score well is already there even with substantially much less time spent in class rooms taking standardized tests.

 

[Reflected]

This is absolutely false. Asian kids are playing soccer, tennis, and other sports by the thousands. There are plenty of Asian kids failing school and going directly to work in nail salons after high school.

Once again, when you focus on the “cream of the crop” it’s easy to paint a pretty picture of success. Threads like this (which are created daily) focus on the worst of black statistics and compare them to the BEST of other minorities. It’s old and tired.

Yeah, exactly, but bro, if you have to explain this, is it even worth it? We have the numbers on this shyt and yet, still, products of our terrible education system come into this thread with their uninformed opinions, to give anecdotal takes about asian/immigrant kids being built different.

 

[Phitz]

Alot of the issue is culture. For example, some Asians and some Africans have advantage in math because math is embedded in most of their languages, plus there are problem solving practices involved in the everyday culture.. (on a side note, alot of languages also have gender embedded in the entire sentence).

For example in some languages there is no word for fifty(50) The language literally translates as 5 tens, or 7 tens. When you speak like that all your life you have a leg up on figuring out math. English can handicap/slowdown your thought process if you're taught certain numbers concepts that way. Alot of other cultures are taught several ways to figure something out, not just one.

Also if you come from a cultural background where you have learned to deal with trying to grow stubborn crops, you develop a problem solving approach to things.

Everybody has the same brain, but many are molded to a certain thought process from young.

 

[Rekkapryde]

What is to be expected? We can hardly get people to vote, let alone realize the state of the school systems is entirely political, but on top of that, if your school doesn't provide you the basis to perform decently, seeing as the SAT is entirely crystalized, then you rely on the second or third most important factor, which is cultural, but that cultural aspect, imo, can be thrown out because we can inform culture to a great degree with better opportunity, so that's why I said 2nd/3rd, because it can be interchanged with socioeconomic, of course I'm sure we can delve into cultural differences among test takers and see a performance difference, this is a bit more nuance than most will approach it, but I can't expect to see culture outperforming income on average.

Just note, the biggest influence, or predictor of SAT performance is the state of the school, it's really just better off students, financially, seeing as you want the basis (school) to serve as some cushion of support heading into the test, but that in combination with money, time, and parental attention towards test prep outside of school will obviously lead to better results beyond the school average.



Just throwing this out there before the "black people don't like education" nonsense, ironically, these types of arguments come from the target groups.

It always starts at home, ALWAYS. And with the black family structure not in the greatest state, it's not helping.

People say money but you can put millions into the school system and nothing will change unless the foundation at home changes. Period.