Only 17% Of Black Students In Maryland School District Scored Proficient In Math

Piff Perkins

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The achievement gap baffles me. When I was a pre-teen we moved from Detroit to Ann Arbor. At the time there was a lot of debate over why the achievement gap persisted between black and white students in Ann Arbor, a city with high income levels/tax base where black families were solidly middle class. Yet the black kids were still behind.

My mom argues that white teachers don't hold black students to the same standard they hold white students to. Meaning that if a black student gets a C, the teacher says "good job" and that's that. But if a white student gets a C, the teacher calls the parents and tells them little Johnny has to apply himself harder. I'm sure that happens...but I can't imagine it would be the dominating explanation for this issue. I don't have any answers.

The thing I do remember is, coming from Detroit, I was surprised that many of the black kids in the suburbs tried to act like they were from the projects. Many were imitating behavior I was quite familiar with, yet these kids had two parents and were from nice neighborhoods, unlike a lot of the kids I grew up with in Detroit. While I did well in school, a lot of these suburban black kids struggled because they didn't apply themselves. I never understood it nor did I have any interaction with their parents, so I can't comment on whether the parents were on their ass or not.
 

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Constant skill-and-drill/test-prep does not work. However, it has been the basis of the US school system ever since the passage of NCLB in 2001. I always did well on tests, because I could always "figure it out" even if I had never seen the content before. This is because I have always been a critical and abstract thinker. What these government mandates do is strip teachers and students of the ability to cultivate critical and abstract thought. Common Core, they said, would give kids analytical skills, but it actually does quite the opposite, as it gives teachers and students more bullshyt standards to follow. The more you try to drill the standards into the kids, the weaker they become. This is because if they get a test question they haven't been drilled on, they have no idea wtf to do. Whereas, if you put any test in front of a critical thinker, he or she will find a way to get SOMETHING right. Abstract thought is discouraged in school, and low-key a huge reason why melanated children are doing terribly.
Same here, man. So glad my Mom/Dad raised me that way.
 

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If kids today are anything like I was, they aren't doing homework, they aren't studying, and really don't know the value of education. No one has motivated them to care about school. When they turn 18 and work at the factory, then they'll know, but by then it's too late.

Edit: I was always good at reading and had mastered the English language nonetheless, from a very early age no less.
 

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How is this even possible? Isn’t Maryland full of well educated black folks? No way they’re allowing their kids to screw up like this.

Living in Maryland the last couple of years, I have seen how things work out here. I now see that the trumped up elitist/classist rhetoric prevalent among the DMV Black middle class is mostly based on a shaky foundation. They pride themselves on the value of their homes, and yet they haven't recovered at the same pace as the white surrounding areas. Furthermore, the Black areas top the list when it comes to mortgages that have negative equity There are definitely parts of the area that are cool, but the prosperity is most definitely overhyped. DMV black folks enjoy throwing it in NY'ers faces about how financially better off they are than us, but while the standard of living might be slightly higher they are still struggling to afford their places just like NY'ers.

For those who are blaming single mothers and non-nuclear families, I would pump the brakes. Black middle class academic under performance has been an issue for awhile now, no need for the implicit poor shaming and moral grandstanding.

 

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Parenting plays a HUGE role.

Let’s look at the facts.

Asian: most proficient in mathematics.
Asian parents: infamous for demanding incredibly much from their children as far ad school results.

White: second most proficient in mathematics.
White parents: known for pushing and trying to make money to put their children in the best schools, knowing it will continue white supremacy (let’s be real). White parents divorce at high %, but co-parenting tends to happen with the child’s education as a continued focal point.

Black: disgracefully low number of proficiency in mathematics.
Black parents: we all know the huge issue of disproportionately many single mothers in the black community. This is not on black mothers only, this is on non-present fathers. This leads to way lesser focus and lowe prioritization of ducation and more focus on survival economically and drama. In general the conversation in the black community is less about higher level education than it is in the Asian and White communities.

The system is ran by white people who hire white people and want to hire Asian people before they hire black people....

“I may be a single parent but I keep my kids in Jordans” on Instagram needs to be replaced with “I may be a single parent but I’m stressing the importance of mathematics and education to my children and their college fund is great”
 

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A lot Black kids have a harder time focusing and typically do not have the mental discipline for math. It has nothing to do with genetics, its simply cultural. Many Asian kids are taught at an early age to be focused and disciplined. We allow our kids to spend endless hours watching tv and raise them without any discipline and wonder why they cannot focus in school.
 

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Living in Maryland the last couple of years, I have seen how things work out here. I now see that the trumped up elitist/classist rhetoric prevalent among the DMV Black middle class is mostly based on a shaky foundation. They pride themselves on the value of their homes, and yet they haven't recovered at the same pace as the white surrounding areas. Furthermore, the Black areas top the list when it comes to mortgages that have negative equity There are definitely parts of the area that are cool, but the prosperity is most definitely overhyped. DMV black folks enjoy throwing it in NY'ers faces about how financially better off they are than us, but while the standard of living might be slightly higher they are still struggling to afford their places just like NY'ers.

For those who are blaming single mothers and non-nuclear families, I would pump the brakes. Black middle class academic under performance has been an issue for awhile now, no need for the implicit poor shaming and moral grandstanding.


How does parenting by single parents/single mothers NOT play a huge part in underperformance by children?

Single mother doesn’t immediately indicate lower income family. It can be a middle class family. Single parenting impacts children and has an impact on their performance.
 

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I can almost guarantee you that apart from school work, book reading is not stressed in black households; studies have shown that a persons amount of reading has a huge impact on cognitive tests. Talking to your kid and the number of different words a kid hears up to 3 yrs old is also critical. TV was shown to have the opposite effect and black folks watch 2 more hours than the national average:sadcam: Imagine a poorly educated single parent who always sits their child in front of a TV(They aren't the only ones who do this though).
 

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How does parenting by single parents/single mothers NOT play a huge part in underperformance by children?

Single mother doesn’t immediately indicate lower income family. It can be a middle class family. Single parenting impacts children and has an impact on their performance.

Where did I say that single mother hood didn't play a part? My stance is that as a variable it's impact can be overstated on here.
 

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all of this was predicted:

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but black intelligentsia ran mchwhorter off and dismissed this is ramblings of a delusional uncle tom :coffee:
 
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