Online shopping didn’t kill malls, America just built too many they never needed

Are males still poppin in your city ?

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Online shopping and the emergence of lifestyle centers or outdoor malls started to make indoor malls obsolete. There was a trend in the 2000s that street front shopping districts was making a bit of a comeback. It cooled off now but more are still opening up.

But big malls like Tysons in the DC area, Aventura in Miami, or the Galleria in Houston are still popular. But those small malls with little luxury are struggling to hold on.
Well I think they still popular because of the location more so. In less frequent traveled areas a lot of malls like ghost town. Empty stores low activity. I think merchants offering deals and the convenience of shopping from home makes it appealing to the consumer.
 

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It don’t help people fighting and shooting in these public places make consumers not even want to go into malls. In my city the mall sucks we have to drive a hour away to go to a decent mall so a lot of times I just shop from home. I think people loitering hanging out makes people not feel comfortable spending nowadays.
 

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Depending on where you live, the nearest mall is not possible to reach by foot and you have to either take poorly funded public transit or drive to get there.

Why would I spend gas money to go to a mall when I can order what I need with Amazon prime and it arrives the same or next day?

If the design of the city is person focused, people are more likely to walk to the mall and do their shopping there/hang out.
 

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I go to the mall near me to pick up a cinnabon like every other month or so :wow:

Have to get out quick though ..nothing but 13-17 year olds living their life …just feels awkward being there as an adult
Yeah Pentagon City is exactly like this. I go to Auntie Anne's every now and then when I'm there but when I go to that mall, I'm in and out.
 

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Well I think they still popular because of the location more so. In less frequent traveled areas a lot of malls like ghost town. Empty stores low activity. I think merchants offering deals and the convenience of shopping from home makes it appealing to the consumer.
Yeah if it's hard to get to such as using a bus or having a long drive, that particular mall will meet its demise. Those that can survive are surrounded by public transit systems and even that is not always a guarantee.
 

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I hardly ever use Amazon. I only buy from there for specialty or novelty items you can’t just get anywhere. I may do like 5 or less purchases a year. People are just lazy.
 
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All of these were in malls in the 90s.






Mall of America opened in 1992 and was the blueprint for a while. Online shopping was still over a decade away from being a factor.


This was a tourist attraction…. Not a viable blueprint for a mall in most cities .
 
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And if you look at the actual numbers, online shopping still has a way to go to really threaten in store shopping.

This isn’t applicable to the mall argument
 

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There's a lot of reasons, but being 39 now, and seeing the turnaround is like whiplash. I remember when malls were the place. You can still see thriving malls, like South Coast plaza, and Bal Harbour in MIA is another fukking world, Rodeo Drive, but the middle class kind of oasis are much less prevalent. Places where I went to meet girls and see movies with your homies in 7th grade.

You can see the decline. Few key things:

Amazon
big box stores losing huge market shares (These are anchor spots that would draw people in, same for below)
move theaters losing huge market shares
overdevelopment is probably a factor
young people don't socialize the same, the mall isn't a social space, it's just in and out.

When I was a kid, like 13, I would have like maybe $25 dollars on me, that was enough for a movie, food and drinks, and greasy ass Chinese combo food court afterward. Maybe a CD single. X that times 150 kids a day, and that's revenue for all those spots.
 

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There are like a half dozen malls where I live and they all seem to be doing really well. I go to the one closest to me pretty often. They're all middle-high to high-end type malls with more expensive retailers, so maybe that's the key to staying open?

The last mall they demolished around here recently was a low-end one with cheaper stores. I think the days of the low-end Evergreen Plaza type malls are over for good.
 
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Malls are not poppin in NYC. When you get to the burbs of LI,NJ etc it seems like high end poppin malls that obviously gets a lot of investment or ghetto malls that be empty with off brand stores.
 
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I honestly think the online shopping killed malls. I think it was planned as well. I think the elite want the people to stay inside and be controlled through algorithms. They don’t want people lined up outside 5:30 am waiting on Jordans to drop and all that. I remember the mall used to be the hangout spot. They don’t want people hanging around taking up space.
I think the elites are invested in commercial real estate and Amazon etc disrupted TF out of that. Elites were further impacted by remote work and the collapse of the value of office space.
 
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