ONE PROBLEM WITH HIP HOP...

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Is that the fans don't really respect the genre...They may enjoy it, but they don't really respect it...

For example, there is been a thread about how every hip hop legend is overrated...Dr Dre, Pac, Rakim, Nas, Jay Z, Big Daddy Kane and etc have been labelled overrated...

The fact that hip hop legends don't eat well when they get old, also shows the disrespect the hip hop audience has towards the genre...

So, why doesn't the hip hop audience have no respect for the genre...?

Easy...

It's because it does not take too much effort to capitalize off the genre...Especially when it comes to rappers...

For example, rockers have to pick an instrument when they are about 14 and spend years mastering the instrument, and then more years developing a sound, and they have to continuously rehearse to make sure the band plays well together...

Rock fans know that not just anybody can pick-up a guitar, and in 3 months start getting 1 million views on youtube (unless they are just a joke)...

Therefore, it's much harder for rock fans to say that their legends are overrated, because the fans understand the work it takes to get there...

But we in the hip hop audience, always think we can out rap...It's like we honestly believe hip hop fame is strictly based on luck...Thus, we have no respect for the genre...

Because almost every hip hop fans thinks he or she is his or her own favorite rapper, so why should he or she give any respect to anybody else, since he or she can do it just as well...
 

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if this was a predominately white thread, there'd probably be more threads on rock legends being overrated. :manny: And hiphop legends don't eat well (as well) when they get older because the audience grows and may prefer a different type of sound that the legends aren't providing; same with any genre.
 

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The Genre is youth driven and always has been. What's hot & hip right now is all that counts. This is the foundation of the genre. Also the Genre is cutthroat & competition driven, where it's fukk the next artist or anybody that's not me and my mans and them. It's a unique genre of music.

Since the young people drive the music, it's alway gonna be about what's coming next or what's the next new & hot thing to drop. I'm not really sure about the dynamic of the older fans supporting the older artists at live shows. I'm sure the older legends can still eat off live shows.
 

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if this was a predominately white thread, there'd probably be more threads on rock legends being overrated. :manny: And hiphop legends don't eat well (as well) when they get older because the audience grows and may prefer a different type of sound that the legends aren't providing; same with any genre.

This and every other hiphop forum on the net is predominantly white. Alot of these posters u run into online like hiphop, but its probably not their first choice of musical genre. Therefore its hard to take the opinion of the typical internet fan seriously when it comes to hiphop. A prime example would be that Needledrop dude.....anybody who GREW UP listening to hiphop can tell this dude doesnt understand the culture and is also not qualified to rate the music.

This is the problem with any artform that African Americans create, as soon as whites catch on and start liking it, its only a matter of time before that artform dies. Therefore its impossible to compare rock fans to hiphop fans, unless of course ur looking at rock music as a precursor for what hiphop is slowly turning into. If the number of whites equaled the number of blacks in this country then Bruce springsteen wouldnt be eating how he is right now. There are more white hiphop "fans" than there are black ppl in this country, its silly to expect a race of ppl who are outnumbered like that to support their artists equally. Point of this long rant is that alot of u get ur opinions about hiphop fans from internet message boards even though these ppl ur blogging with dont have hiphop as a first love to begin with. The internet is not an accurate way to judge the TRUE fans of the genre
 

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most garbage music fans, ever. any genre

you see competition amongst rock fans, but never 'aww man Dave Mustaine's 50 he flabby and sick flabby and sick'

Grizzly Bear only sold 5500 2nd week no buzz they fell off

heard this snippet on a mixtape two months ago why is it on the album aww man no cop no cop

none of this, hip hop fans are childish and fickle
 

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t/s makes a point, you might be right but success in rap is like a game of chess - not everyone can do it and it's less to do with talent. With that said I wouldn't discourage anyone from their dreams but 99% of people obviously don't have what it takes to make it in the rap game, regardless of talent.

Have you ever met someone that worked in a band? Some of these bands are strung together for desperation.. whether it be to simply fill a spot.. but most importantly to fill a spot with someone you get along with as a friend.
 

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its true we dont respect em. most of the legends and true pioneers of hip hop looked like broke bums in that ice cube documentary. its a shame. Hip hop fans are the worst.
 

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The internet is not an accurate way to judge the TRUE fans of the genre

idk about all that other shyt but this. theres no problems with hip hop like the internet says, its the internet thats the problem. theres only a few true hip hop fans sprinkled in 90% of message board posters whos here for the fukkery. thats the rick ross, nas, kendrick lamar, etc stans. they only know a lot about one artist and just talk about them nonstop.

basically white people fukk everything up, hip hop is just their current victim, stay in your own genres :pacspit:
 

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I agree its not rare in 2012 the MC on stage is wacker than half the crowd watching
 

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The Genre is youth driven and always has been. What's hot & hip right now is all that counts. This is the foundation of the genre. Also the Genre is cutthroat & competition driven, where it's fukk the next artist or anybody that's not me and my mans and them. It's a unique genre of music.

Since the young people drive the music, it's alway gonna be about what's coming next or what's the next new & hot thing to drop. I'm not really sure about the dynamic of the older fans supporting the older artists at live shows. I'm sure the older legends can still eat off live shows.




the genre started out as youth driven (even though a lot of grown ass men were spinning and were pioneers of rap - it gets that label), but the previous generations that actually made it what it is, eventually grew up. they had to. the fact that they didnt just disappear means that theres no reason why the music cant grow up along with them either.


the problem is that the audience doesnt want to grow up and they want to have second childhoods. no one told them that after a while you need to get yourself right and stop the nonstop partying and drug use. slow down on the self destruction. I see 40 year olds in trendy ass tight t shirts looking out of place. its all viewed today as entertainment, and thats why its not real anymore.

the industry has also tied hip hops own identity down by making it one dimensional and saying its "youth driven" when theyre not even the biggest audience in rap! its the grown ups in the club, buying a lot of the mp3s, and supporting the fukkery! and its because the fans (and the industry) never wanted their peter pan ass rappers to grow up.
 
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