Oldheads who started rolling weed in blunts?

[truth2you]

The Rastas was smoking extra long filled blunts in places like Blue Mountain (jamaca) and westmorland (jamaica) where the Nyambhingi tribe out of hatred for the King James bible would roll blunts with Bible scripture pages back in the 1960s

When the Rasta dreads migrated to Miami and NYC via the Gullymen ..the Shower posse and Spangler it influenced the African Americans who did business with them

I know of this cause I was a teen in 1986 watching this happen

American blacks was still Smoking spliffs

Now you was a teen in 1986

So, you didn't know about car culture in NYC around the same time, but you knew about weed smoking when weed smoking was highly illegal?

You are so phony!

And it was crack, and coke, that them rastas was smoking in Brooklyn, and they used cigars to hold it cause it would melt, I heard it was used to get them off the pipe. This is what I heard, and its probably true, because why did blunts only get big around that time? No talk about it before that era.

Nobody was smoking blunts in any other places, if they did it would have been talked about. Only NYC rappers talked on it. The earliest was Big Daddy Kane, and a few others.

And NO, ADOS weren't smoking spliffs, that is weed mixed with tobacco, the term came with west indians as they are part of English culture. That is a london way of smoking. ADOS just smoked joints.

And Nyabinghi was heavy on the chalice, and large Bob Marley joints, not cigar or tobacco smoking. You should know this, but you are fronting. Before blunt smoking, Rastas were NOT heavy on the tobacco smoke. They used corn husk if anything. Like I said it was cocaine that changed everything!

Rastas were here BEFORE "gullymen", and helped bring the weed in abundance, but Blunts did not come fro Jamaica, it came from a mix of rastas smoking other things besides joint paper, and them starting to smoke coke/crack, in NYC.

You didn't know that because you didn't read it!

 

[truth2you]

I dunno about that. Boston nikkas been on that for a minute maybe it's because of yall the yardies that came through from NYC. I was born in 94 though earliest account I seen of a blunt was in 98 when my baby sitter used to kill one before she would watch my bad ass

Trust me it was a NYC thing, not a Jamaica thing or any other place. Go back to any Jamaican rasta videos in the 70's, and NO ONE will show them smoking tobacco, they wasn't on it like that. I heard it was because of the crack & cocaine being too melty, so they used tobacco, corn husk aint around so easily, and to get off the pipe. I believe it because that is when the shyt started being talked about.

 

[KingJudah2]

Dutches and Fronto in NY

 

[TheHonorableOmarSharif]

Noo way to know for sure. Thats like asking whats the first city the first cat smoked weed in? Who knows? Or is there a historical drug almanac out?

 

[Mr. Negative]

But out here backwoods exploded in popularity probably in the mid to late 2000s with Mac Dre

"I smoke Backwood blunts, cause they the most expensive. "

 

[IShotTheSheriff]

i hate woods, Waaaaaaay too strong. Like smoking weed and a Blacc at the same time

I hear you even though BACKWOODS was ALL I wanted.

Once you get into the habit of backwoods, which is a whole ass tobacco leaf... nothing else cuts it. It becomes a major tobacco addiction.

Hell I was rolling backwoods, smoking to my face and then cutting up the woods and making roach spliffs for later. I was a straight fiend for the green...

Then I met up with my jamaican friends and shyt was a WRAP. They introduced me to "grabba leaf" which is dark cured tobacco. We'd even mix that into the backwood blunts... I'm telling you I wouldn't even enjoy weed without the tobacco association at this point. Went on for years until I finally broke free.

What y'all know about Grabba leaf? My advice though brehs. Vape your shyt or smoke papers. Healthier overall. Forget the white people's poisonous cheap cigars.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

The Rastas was smoking extra long filled blunts in places like Blue Mountain (jamaca) and westmorland (jamaica) where the Nyambhingi tribe out of hatred for the King James bible would roll blunts with Bible scripture pages back in the 1960s

When the Rasta dreads migrated to Miami and NYC via the Gullymen ..the Shower posse and Spangler it influenced the African Americans who did business with them

I know of this cause I was a teen in 1986 watching this happen

American blacks was still Smoking spliffs

When I meet oldheads who smoke they do tend to prefer papers.

 

[truth2you]

I hear you even though BACKWOODS was ALL I wanted.

Once you get into the habit of backwoods, which is a whole ass tobacco leaf... nothing else cuts it. It becomes a major tobacco addiction.

Hell I was rolling backwoods, smoking to my face and then cutting up the woods and making roach spliffs for later. I was a straight fiend for the green...

Then I met up with my jamaican friends and shyt was a WRAP. They introduced me to "grabba leaf" which is dark cured tobacco. We'd even mix that into the backwood blunts... I'm telling you I wouldn't even enjoy weed without the tobacco association at this point. Went on for years until I finally broke free.

What y'all know about Grabba leaf? My advice though brehs. Vape your shyt or smoke papers. Healthier overall. Forget the white people's poisonous cheap cigars.

It's still tobacco, my friend. I've been part of the weed culture even before I started smoking, it was always around me. Weed smokers used to be about health, and tobacco was not a part of it. Once blunt smoking got big, smokers started coming up with excuses to still smoke tobacco, and be part of the new crowd, EVEN RASTAS, and they saw tobacco as a poison. This rap shyt changed EVERYTHING!

I still can't believe I seen this shyt with my own eyes. From a little kid who wanted to older so I watched everything, to doing it myself. The only tobacco I would use is something like American spirit or some air dried tobacco, and only sprinkle a little amount. It's the tobacco that is dried with heaters that cause the problem IIRC.

 

[truth2you]

@KENNY DA COOKER You out here using your age to lie to these young nikkas, and shytting on Nyahbinghi by saying they smoked blunts!

I'm ADOS but lived in the heart of Flatbush when west indians started coming to the states in large numbers, smoked up with Dreads in DANGEROUS places you wouldn't go. Got respect, you know why? I listened, learned, and gave respect, I can see you did none of this, or you would know what you're talking about

For those who actually care, and want the truth, this is from the Nyahbinghi rules:

"THE TABERNACLE CONSISTS OF TWELVE OUTER POSTS WHICH REPRESENTS:

• THE TWELVE PATRIARCHS
• THE TWELVE GATES OF NEW JERUSALEM
• THE TWELVE TRIBES OF ISRAEL
• THE TWELVE APOSTLES

THE CENTRE POST, THE LARGEST OF ALL, REPRESENTS I&I MAJESTY EMPEROR HAILE SELASSIE I WHO IS THE HEAD OF THE NYAHBINGHI ORDER.

THE ROOF OF THE TABERNACLE SHOULD TAKE THE SHAPE OF AN UMBRELLA, PORTRAITS OF H.I.M. DECORATES THE TABERNACLE.

NO WEAPONS, DRUGS, ALCOHOL, CIGARETTES OR TOBACCO ARE ALLOWED INSIDE.

So, if tobacco can't be used at the ceremonies, how did they smoke blunts? They didn't, even fool knows they used the chalice!

 

[10bandz]

I hear you even though BACKWOODS was ALL I wanted.

Once you get into the habit of backwoods, which is a whole ass tobacco leaf... nothing else cuts it. It becomes a major tobacco addiction.

Hell I was rolling backwoods, smoking to my face and then cutting up the woods and making roach spliffs for later. I was a straight fiend for the green...

Then I met up with my jamaican friends and shyt was a WRAP. They introduced me to "grabba leaf" which is dark cured tobacco. We'd even mix that into the backwood blunts... I'm telling you I wouldn't even enjoy weed without the tobacco association at this point. Went on for years until I finally broke free.

What y'all know about Grabba leaf? My advice though brehs. Vape your shyt or smoke papers. Healthier overall. Forget the white people's poisonous cheap cigars.

i used to fukk with the fronto

nowadays if I smoke a blunt im using hemp wraps

 

[TheHonorableOmarSharif]

The original Honey Dutchmasters will always be the goat blunts.

 

[truth2you]

who remembers the chocolate dutch masters that came out in 1996?

I think they put something in them shyts because every time I smoked with them, I never got high, or just barely feeling it

They stopped being out there after a while, but I know other people got a taste of them before they went away

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

This sounds about right, but dudes were smoking joints on EZ Wider at the time here (from what I recall)

and I didn't know that this was the origin of smoking bible paper/pages. Don't Rastas consider themselves Nazarites (from the Old Testament)....some of their beliefs and ideology comes from the KJV of the bible, correct? Or are Nyabinghi a sect of Rasta with different system?

RASTAS DON'T FUKK with the KJV...

At least the original sects like Nyambhingi and Bobo Ashanti ..

Commerical Rastas like12 tribes sect did subscribe to KJV they had celebs like Bob Marley and Dennis brown and accepted whites and.practices astrology and collected monejr

the passages they quote they know are derived from original sources from alkebulan (africa)

it's always been about the KEBRA NEGAST a book which tells the story of the bloodline outta Ethiopia of BLACK KINGS AND was "DELETED" from the KJV.............by the Jacobite Freemasons of Scotland

 

[truth2you]

I know it's not good. I'm just saying that's the earliest reference I know to smoking blunts I've heard. plus this wasn't pure crack

Yes it was!

Raekwon told you:
"No question I would speed for cracks and weed
The combination made my eyes bleed
No question I would flow off and try to get the dough "

And in Miami, they used it in their joints(powder), not BLUNTS, they called it "dirty". I know this because I actually knew people from there, not reading or a rap song. I remember when I found out, and thought, "these nikkas still smoking coke!"

So, if it came from Dreads in Jamaica, why didn't blunts pop off in Miami until the 90's when it hit everyone else? It's because it was a NYC thing, and used for that melty crack! At least Sadat X told the truth in that video

 

[IShotTheSheriff]

It's still tobacco, my friend. I've been part of the weed culture even before I started smoking, it was always around me. Weed smokers used to be about health, and tobacco was not a part of it. Once blunt smoking got big, smokers started coming up with excuses to still smoke tobacco, and be part of the new crowd, EVEN RASTAS, and they saw tobacco as a poison. This rap shyt changed EVERYTHING!

I still can't believe I seen this shyt with my own eyes. From a little kid who wanted to older so I watched everything, to doing it myself. The only tobacco I would use is something like American spirit or some air dried tobacco, and only sprinkle a little amount. It's the tobacco that is dried with heaters that cause the problem IIRC.

Yes brotha, I'm aware it's still tobacco. I was just making a distinction because GRABBA/FRONTO is cured a certain way and has a very different taste to it. We would always heat it a bit with a lighter before adding it to our green...

I'm no longer a smoker though but I spent so much time on it and most my friends haven't moved on so figured I'd chime in lol