Older heads what was the preception of the 2000s era NBA?

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Early 2000s NBA is the best era of the NBA

Teams still made an effort to defend...there were so many great individual talents (Kobe, AI, Vince, T-Mac, etc...) that brought flair to the game

No one complained too much offense like today or too much defense like the mid-00s

The problem the media had was that hip hop took over the NBA by the early 00s...hence why they eventually changed the dress code

Baggy shorts, tats, headbands, and swag...that was the early 2000s...my fav era of pure basketball in the Association
 

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At the time the view was that the game was getting dull and stagnant.

Scoring was down. And ball movement wasn't great.

What you did have, was the highlights of 1-on-1 play. And so that's what people remember and reminisce about. An Iverson crossover. A Kobe dunk. Shaq bullying everyone at the rim.

The thing about nostalgia is that you're always nostalgic about things that made you feel good. That's pretty much by definition. So few people look back and think "those were dark times".

But there's a reason the NBA made changes to open up the game and allowed zone defenses. They wanted a better pace of play. They wanted a bit less ball dominance on 1 guy.


The subject was defense in the NBA, and Michael Jordan was speaking, although more about offense, especially his. We know few defenses could do anything about that.

But there was one that might be bothersome, the zone defense. It was the topic du jour at last month's All-Star Game, and Jordan was making an impassioned plea before the competition committee that had gathered to consider rules changes to enliven the NBA game. Jordan spoke passionately. If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did.

So now, perhaps the Michael Jordan era finally is over. A select committee on rules recommended last week that the NBA eliminate illegal-defense guidelines, which effectively would allow teams to play any defense, including a zone. The proposals also include a defensive three-second rule to prevent teams from stationing a big center, like Dikembe Mutombo, at the basket all game.

Other recommendations: reducing from 10 seconds to eight seconds the time required for the ball to be advanced to the frontcourt, limiting fouls on incidental contact and allowing the ball to be touched while on the rim, as it is in international play. The league's board of governors is expected to endorse the recommendations in April and put them into use for next season.


And it could lead to a startling change in the NBA game.

Which is what the league is hoping for with scoring stuck at historic lows of 94.6 points per team per game this season on 44.2 percent shooting.

As Casey Stengel might have said, "Can't anybody here play this game?"

Not based on the way it has looked in recent years with poor shooting and decreased movement making for a less appealing product. Some blame that for declines in TV ratings and attendance. The committee's recommendations are a response to those concerns.

The elimination of illegal-defense guidelines, which have been a staple of NBA play for the last 50 years, may rank as one of the major changes in the history of the pro game.

It is a daring experiment that proponents say will return classic basketball--cutting, passing and better shooting. Opponents say scores will plummet further and the individual stars of the game, such as Vince Carter and Kobe Bryant, will be neutralized.

And that was Jordan's argument: He believed that allowing any defense, or a zone, enables teams to gang up on the star. Gone will be the highlight-show moves and plays, the ESPN-ization of the game that others contend has been detrimental to sound play.

The NBA historically has been a man-to-man-defense league that encouraged great individual play.

But as coaches, like Hubie Brown in the 1970s, began to devise defenses to help out, the NBA instituted a series of defense rules that began to look like the Internal Revenue Service code. There was good reason for each of them, but when combined they made little sense.

So games often are spent with players pointing to lines on the court where a player is supposed to be or isn't.

Actually, many of the illegal-defense rules were designed to aid the centers, like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who were being smothered in the post area.

But the result has become a slower, unappealing setup game in which the ball is dropped into the post while the post player works with another player and three players stand around and watch.

See: New York Knicks, Miami Heat, et al.

No more, say the rules poohbahs. It's time to return to basketball.

The change is not just a present for players like Steve Kerr, Bryce Drew and Trajan Langdon, who are primarily perimeter shooters. It's more of a statement to all players that they should learn the fundamentals of the game--to shoot the ball, pass and move without the ball.

One early victim would seem to be Shaquille O'Neal, perhaps the only true low-post center left in the NBA. Elimination of illegal-defense rules would allow teams to gang up on him and force the ball outside, a sort of Shaq Rules.

But coaches such as Miami's Pat Riley, who long has relied on a two-man post-up game, say times are changing.

"I think the philosophy now is about versatility, quickness, mobility, stretching the game," Riley said. "The philosophy has transcended getting a big man.

"This is the game of the 21st Century."

A game played by Milwaukee, Dallas, Sacramento and Orlando, perimeter teams who are now four of the top-five-scoring teams in the NBA.

Although those teams don't have anyone like Jordan, they are fun to watch. And that's what the NBA is hoping will happen to all its teams.
 

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It was trashed by cacs. In real time nikkas loved that era....Kobe, AI, Tmac, Vince, Bron, Wade, Melo, etc were all hot topics of discussion every day.

Ratings were down because it was post-MJ and hard to replicate.....also cacs and media ran with the NBA players were thugs bullshyt.
 

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At the time the view was that the game was getting dull and stagnant.

Scoring was down. And ball movement wasn't great.

What you did have, was the highlights of 1-on-1 play. And so that's what people remember and reminisce about. An Iverson crossover. A Kobe dunk. Shaq bullying everyone at the rim.

The thing about nostalgia is that you're always nostalgic about things that made you feel good. That's pretty much by definition. So few people look back and think "those were dark times".

But there's a reason the NBA made changes to open up the game and allowed zone defenses. They wanted a better pace of play. They wanted a bit less ball dominance on 1 guy.


The subject was defense in the NBA, and Michael Jordan was speaking, although more about offense, especially his. We know few defenses could do anything about that.

But there was one that might be bothersome, the zone defense. It was the topic du jour at last month's All-Star Game, and Jordan was making an impassioned plea before the competition committee that had gathered to consider rules changes to enliven the NBA game. Jordan spoke passionately. If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did.

So now, perhaps the Michael Jordan era finally is over. A select committee on rules recommended last week that the NBA eliminate illegal-defense guidelines, which effectively would allow teams to play any defense, including a zone. The proposals also include a defensive three-second rule to prevent teams from stationing a big center, like Dikembe Mutombo, at the basket all game.

Other recommendations: reducing from 10 seconds to eight seconds the time required for the ball to be advanced to the frontcourt, limiting fouls on incidental contact and allowing the ball to be touched while on the rim, as it is in international play. The league's board of governors is expected to endorse the recommendations in April and put them into use for next season.


And it could lead to a startling change in the NBA game.

Which is what the league is hoping for with scoring stuck at historic lows of 94.6 points per team per game this season on 44.2 percent shooting.

As Casey Stengel might have said, "Can't anybody here play this game?"

Not based on the way it has looked in recent years with poor shooting and decreased movement making for a less appealing product. Some blame that for declines in TV ratings and attendance. The committee's recommendations are a response to those concerns.

The elimination of illegal-defense guidelines, which have been a staple of NBA play for the last 50 years, may rank as one of the major changes in the history of the pro game.

It is a daring experiment that proponents say will return classic basketball--cutting, passing and better shooting. Opponents say scores will plummet further and the individual stars of the game, such as Vince Carter and Kobe Bryant, will be neutralized.

And that was Jordan's argument: He believed that allowing any defense, or a zone, enables teams to gang up on the star. Gone will be the highlight-show moves and plays, the ESPN-ization of the game that others contend has been detrimental to sound play.

The NBA historically has been a man-to-man-defense league that encouraged great individual play.

But as coaches, like Hubie Brown in the 1970s, began to devise defenses to help out, the NBA instituted a series of defense rules that began to look like the Internal Revenue Service code. There was good reason for each of them, but when combined they made little sense.

So games often are spent with players pointing to lines on the court where a player is supposed to be or isn't.

Actually, many of the illegal-defense rules were designed to aid the centers, like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who were being smothered in the post area.

But the result has become a slower, unappealing setup game in which the ball is dropped into the post while the post player works with another player and three players stand around and watch.

See: New York Knicks, Miami Heat, et al.

No more, say the rules poohbahs. It's time to return to basketball.

The change is not just a present for players like Steve Kerr, Bryce Drew and Trajan Langdon, who are primarily perimeter shooters. It's more of a statement to all players that they should learn the fundamentals of the game--to shoot the ball, pass and move without the ball.

One early victim would seem to be Shaquille O'Neal, perhaps the only true low-post center left in the NBA. Elimination of illegal-defense rules would allow teams to gang up on him and force the ball outside, a sort of Shaq Rules.

But coaches such as Miami's Pat Riley, who long has relied on a two-man post-up game, say times are changing.

"I think the philosophy now is about versatility, quickness, mobility, stretching the game," Riley said. "The philosophy has transcended getting a big man.

"This is the game of the 21st Century."

A game played by Milwaukee, Dallas, Sacramento and Orlando, perimeter teams who are now four of the top-five-scoring teams in the NBA.

Although those teams don't have anyone like Jordan, they are fun to watch. And that's what the NBA is hoping will happen to all its teams.
It was said at the time the changes were to make the game more like international ball. I think it was done to open it up for more foreign and white stores to try and expand the audience of the game.
 

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It was said at the time the changes were to make the game more like international ball. I think it was done to open it up for more foreign and white stores to try and expand the audience of the game.
I'm not sure I agree.

It couldn't be that the plodding, slow-paced game became unappealing to fans in America. It must have been some calculated business conspiracy to expand the game to white Americans and Europeans?

Somehow I think the 1st explanation is the most plausible.
 

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It was trashed by cacs. In real time nikkas loved that era....Kobe, AI, Tmac, Vince, Bron, Wade, Melo, etc were all hot topics of discussion every day.

Ratings were down because it was post-MJ and hard to replicate.....also cacs and media ran with the NBA players were thugs bullshyt.

Yup. I remember in middle school, I wore a Rip Hamilton Wizards jersey and one of my teachers said Rip looked like a thug :mjpls:

My childhood :blessed:






 

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Ratings were down because a lot of folks tuned out after MJ retired, cacs thought it became too much of a “thug” league, and then you had people who found the slow paced iso heavy style of play many teams had boring

So yeah in real time it was not beloved at all by the masses.

But people who grew up and fell in love with basketball during that era are now the oldheads and have nostalgia for it. Like any other era there was highs and lows
 
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