Official Trump Insurrection Rally 1/6/21 Fukkery, NY Probe, DOJ Probe & Georgia Probe Thread!
Captiol punishment has to be on the table at this point and to those who helped him
oooff, even Karl Rove isn't buying the bullshyt 
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Fox News contributor and former Trump campaign adviser Karl Rove wasn’t buying what Fox was trying to sell on Friday when it came to the redacted affidavit used to justify the FBI’s search for classified documents at former President Donald Trump’s estate.
Nearly three weeks after the feds first executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago for evidence of Trump’s potential violation of the Espionage Act, the Justice Department unsealed the 38-page affidavit behind it. Judge Bruce E. Reinhart agreed with the feds that the proposed redactions were necessary to shield confidential sources and investigative methods, and ordered the document unsealed by Friday afternoon.
Even with the markups, the affidavit revealed that agents believed there was “probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found” and that classified national security documents were still on the premises at Mar-a-Lago. It was also revealed that after the FBI reviewed 15 boxes returned to the National Archives by Trump earlier this year, “184 unique documents bearing classification markings” were found—including 25 documents marked “TOP SECRET.”
Following the release of the affidavit on Friday, Fox News anchors still wondered why the DOJ felt it necessary to execute an “unprecedented” search warrant on the ex-president’s home. Instead, they wondered, the feds should have just issued another subpoena or tried to get Trump to cooperate in some other fashion.
“But why also wasn’t there another subpoena, another effort at interaction?” Fox News chief political anchor Bret Baier pondered at one point. “Were they seeing a total stiff-arm from the Trump people? That’s not in this document yet, at least we can’t see it.”
Rove, who has become critical of Trump’s attempt to overthrow the 2020 election, saw things a bit differently. In his view, the federal government has given Trump ample opportunity to comply while being misled by the ex-president’s team.
“I would suggest from an untutored angle two things,” he told anchor Sandra Smith. “One is there is a letter, don’t know who it came from, but one of President Trump’s lawyers apparently comes in June and says you got all the classified material. We don’t have any more classified material here at Mar-a-Lago.”
Rove was referencing a June 3 statement reportedly signed by Trump attorney and ex-One America News host Christina Bobb and given to FBI agents asserting that all classified information housed at Mar-a-Lago had been returned. Bobb was designated as Trump’s custodian over the documents.
The former aide to President George W. Bush went on to say that it was quite possible that a witness tipped off the FBI that they’d “been misled” by the Trump team, either via a “deliberate lie or a lie based in ignorance,” prompting the raid.
Smith, referring to comments made by Fox News legal analyst Jonathan Turley, said that “the affidavit did not establish that the Trump people were wholly uncooperative or non-communicative.” Noting that Turley did concede that Trump was “asked to turn over material and did not do so,” she wondered why the feds took a heavy-handed approach.
“There seems to be still a huge piece missing there in the timeline, and the affidavit does not appear to clear that up. Going back to the New York Post headline in the middle of all this, ‘you could have just asked,’” Smith added.
“The Presidential Records Act is clear,” Rove responded. “A president does not have the right to leave the White House and pick and choose what documents he wants to take with him. He can ask for copies, but those are the property of the American people and since 1978, no president has left with sort of picking and choosing their own documents.”
Stating that the “impression in the affidavit” is the DOJ asked multiple times for the documents and had a “general sense” of how many boxes remained after the June visit, Rove then dismissed the network’s spin about Trump’s willingness to cooperate.
“So, you know, maybe we ought to ask the government, how many times did you ask for the return of the material and President Trump has said several times, ‘all they had do was ask,’” he declared.
“Well, my sense is they were asking for a year and a half, and why he was holding on to these materials when he had no legal authority to do so under the Presidential Records Act is beyond me,” Rove concluded.
“All right, Karl Rove with his thoughts on that,” co-anchor John Roberts reacted. “Karl, we appreciate it. We may come back to you, depending on how the afternoon unfolds.”
Karl Rove Doesn’t Buy Fox Host’s Spin on Unsealed Mar-a-Lago Affidavit
Fox NewsFox News contributor and former Trump campaign adviser Karl Rove wasn’t buying what Fox was trying to sell on Friday when it came to the redacted affidavit used to justify the FBI’s search for classified documents at former President Donald Trump’s estate.Nearly three weeks after the...
Fox News contributor and former Trump campaign adviser Karl Rove wasn’t buying what Fox was trying to sell on Friday when it came to the redacted affidavit used to justify the FBI’s search for classified documents at former President Donald Trump’s estate.
Nearly three weeks after the feds first executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago for evidence of Trump’s potential violation of the Espionage Act, the Justice Department unsealed the 38-page affidavit behind it. Judge Bruce E. Reinhart agreed with the feds that the proposed redactions were necessary to shield confidential sources and investigative methods, and ordered the document unsealed by Friday afternoon.
Even with the markups, the affidavit revealed that agents believed there was “probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found” and that classified national security documents were still on the premises at Mar-a-Lago. It was also revealed that after the FBI reviewed 15 boxes returned to the National Archives by Trump earlier this year, “184 unique documents bearing classification markings” were found—including 25 documents marked “TOP SECRET.”
Following the release of the affidavit on Friday, Fox News anchors still wondered why the DOJ felt it necessary to execute an “unprecedented” search warrant on the ex-president’s home. Instead, they wondered, the feds should have just issued another subpoena or tried to get Trump to cooperate in some other fashion.
“But why also wasn’t there another subpoena, another effort at interaction?” Fox News chief political anchor Bret Baier pondered at one point. “Were they seeing a total stiff-arm from the Trump people? That’s not in this document yet, at least we can’t see it.”
Rove, who has become critical of Trump’s attempt to overthrow the 2020 election, saw things a bit differently. In his view, the federal government has given Trump ample opportunity to comply while being misled by the ex-president’s team.
“I would suggest from an untutored angle two things,” he told anchor Sandra Smith. “One is there is a letter, don’t know who it came from, but one of President Trump’s lawyers apparently comes in June and says you got all the classified material. We don’t have any more classified material here at Mar-a-Lago.”
Rove was referencing a June 3 statement reportedly signed by Trump attorney and ex-One America News host Christina Bobb and given to FBI agents asserting that all classified information housed at Mar-a-Lago had been returned. Bobb was designated as Trump’s custodian over the documents.
The former aide to President George W. Bush went on to say that it was quite possible that a witness tipped off the FBI that they’d “been misled” by the Trump team, either via a “deliberate lie or a lie based in ignorance,” prompting the raid.
Smith, referring to comments made by Fox News legal analyst Jonathan Turley, said that “the affidavit did not establish that the Trump people were wholly uncooperative or non-communicative.” Noting that Turley did concede that Trump was “asked to turn over material and did not do so,” she wondered why the feds took a heavy-handed approach.
“There seems to be still a huge piece missing there in the timeline, and the affidavit does not appear to clear that up. Going back to the New York Post headline in the middle of all this, ‘you could have just asked,’” Smith added.
“The Presidential Records Act is clear,” Rove responded. “A president does not have the right to leave the White House and pick and choose what documents he wants to take with him. He can ask for copies, but those are the property of the American people and since 1978, no president has left with sort of picking and choosing their own documents.”
Stating that the “impression in the affidavit” is the DOJ asked multiple times for the documents and had a “general sense” of how many boxes remained after the June visit, Rove then dismissed the network’s spin about Trump’s willingness to cooperate.
“So, you know, maybe we ought to ask the government, how many times did you ask for the return of the material and President Trump has said several times, ‘all they had do was ask,’” he declared.
“Well, my sense is they were asking for a year and a half, and why he was holding on to these materials when he had no legal authority to do so under the Presidential Records Act is beyond me,” Rove concluded.
“All right, Karl Rove with his thoughts on that,” co-anchor John Roberts reacted. “Karl, we appreciate it. We may come back to you, depending on how the afternoon unfolds.”
The government executed Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for leaking nuclear secrets to Russia. They were the last civilians executed for espionage.
If they can prove Trump lead to CIA assets being killed
It would be surreal if Trump went to Death Row. The most likely outcome is a stay at ADX Florence Supermax with Multiple Life Setences. 23.5 Hours in a small cell (7ft x 12ft). Former FBI Agent Robert Hanssen did espionage and missed out on Death by confessing.
The government executed Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for leaking nuclear secrets to Russia. They were the last civilians executed for espionage.
If they can prove Trump lead to CIA assets being killed
They need to deep fry him if that's the case.
wild100sboy
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Fox News: “I mean, how good were the CIA assets if they are getting captured or killed?”The government executed Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for leaking nuclear secrets to Russia. They were the last civilians executed for espionage.
If they can prove Trump lead to CIA assets being killed
“Maybe sharing our secrets will help the USA. Trump knows what is best for this country!”
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Truly though, this is not good news for Trump. If he was President he would get away with this, or a slap on the wrist. As a Citizen, nope.
which is why the GOP worked so hard to overturn the election
It does bring a question though, one that isn't Trump-direct. I wonder what crimes would come to these guys who aided Trump knowing and unknowingly. That shyt will keep you up at night, because while Trump doesn't have a chance, he was the former president and has some money.
Others, they are just nobodies.
Spidey Man
Superstar
15 life sentences with no possibility of parole locked in that tiny cell for 23 and a half hours a day. Just kill me.
God damn.
This has Kushner written all over it.
Remember when he gave bin Salman of Saudi Arabia the names of all the non loyalist in his family/gov. and got them all locked up in a giant hotel prison.
Saudi Crown Prince Boasted That Jared Kushner Was “In His Pocket”
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told confidants that Kushner discussed the names of royal family members opposed to his power grab.
theintercept.com
I bet he did the same thing but against U.S. intel.
I wonder who he sold the info to?
This shyt is way crazier than I could have imagined.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
seems like Trump and Co did another serious sad from everything I've read
the case for not indicting people better pretty thought out because I think the likelihood of people being arrested is really high... the DOJ really gave them every chance to play this straight and they lied and tried to cover it up repeatedly
like there's no reasonable justification for what Trump has done at all other than the worst case scenarios that we're imagining
the case for not indicting people better pretty thought out because I think the likelihood of people being arrested is really high... the DOJ really gave them every chance to play this straight and they lied and tried to cover it up repeatedly
like there's no reasonable justification for what Trump has done at all other than the worst case scenarios that we're imagining
