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Matrix Resurrections Review

4/5 STARS (GRADE B)


Watching a Marathon of the whole Trilogy and Animatrix before is must viewing. You can't go into this blind. Well where do I begin. First this was basically a Sequel, remake, reboot all wrap into one. At the same time it was actually commentary on sequels, remakes, reboots and IP. People call it "Meta" but it was done before in films like "Gremlins 2" or "Wes Craven's A New Nightmare". The biggest question I had going into this was how in the world is Neo and Trinity alive after what happen in "Revolutions". Well that was answered. I like the concept of them being reinserted back into the Matrix. Cypher talked about this in the first film. Having his memory wiped and starting a new life as a celebrity. Making Neo a video game programmer who's is Thomas Anderson again and Trinity a mother who loves motorcycles named Tiffany was interesting. Their RSI (Residual Self Images) were both different so nobody could find them inside the Matrix. (Neo was much older and bald, Trinity had blonde hair). The first half the of film is basically a Neo Rescue Mission. The last part turns into a Trinity Rescue Mission.

The biggest shocker of the film was the Time jump/skip. There were rumors it was 20 to 30 years. But it was actually over 60 years. That's wild like in "Aliens" when Ripley was in cryo sleep for all those years after "Alien". It really put into context how long Neo and Trinity had been back in the Matrix again. Basically Neo was tricked into believing everything that previously happen was nothing more than a successful Video Game he created. The Machines were really playing mind games. Bugs played by Jessica Henwick is basically leading the new Resistance. She's the top Soldier for Niobi in the Real World. There's a new crew and operator as well. Zion is no longer there, it's called "Lo". Machines kept the truce treaty but this caused there to be a internal war. Machines V Machines. Now Humans and Machines are working together. Jada's back in a small role playing an Elderly Niobi. Her crew heard stories about Neo for years which makes them want to do the mission. Yahya actually wasn't Morpheus but a program designed with characteristics of both Agent Smith and Morpheus. Neo's Boss at the the Video Game Company is basically Agent Smith in a new shell. Both of them go against their programming and turn on the Machines.

There were some Nostalgic beats by playing shots from the original Trilogy while also editing in actually scenes here to there. But the movie is definitely a sequel as it does answer the questions from "Revolutions" and what really happen to Neo and Trinity. Their bodies were both repaired from what happen. Neil Patrick Harris playing The Therapist/Analyst is basically The Architect Jr as I said. He's the new creator of this version of the Matrix. Neo was the 6th version during the Trilogy so this was the next version. I liked how it was different than the original trilogy. It didn't have the green tint and was much brighter like the end of "Revolutions". Also the things they do in this Matrix is much different so this version was crazy. Sati ended up having an important role as she had information on the new Pods Neo and Trinity were in. I noticed the Action was much smaller scale. A lot of agent shoot outs and a few hand to hand combat but not huge action set pieces. Only the climax felt big like that honestly. I think they were going for a more intimate feel. Overall I did enjoy it because it really expanded the Universe. Lana did pretty good with this but I think the smaller scale action is because her partner in crime wasn't there this time.

That 60 year time gap is a long time and a lot can be explored about what happen in a prequel or even another "Animatrix". I liked Bugs as a new character and the Analyst as the bad guy. He was much more active than the other Architect. In the Real World Morpheus has a huge Statue but they didn't get into what actually happen to him which may open the door for a future return. I actually wanted more Real World shots since so much has happen in those 60 years. The new Morpheus program and Smith Program were OK but I think they both could of just been brand new characters even though again they are more programs. Yahya was cool but I'm glad he wasn't actually Morpheus like I originally thought. Him being a program is a much better storyline. The Self Aware stuff in the beginning was pretty good commentary on the obsession with IP and Reboots/remakes. After my 2nd viewing I noticed some things I completely missed the first time. The movie basically was the Happy ending we didn't get in "Revolutions". Neo and Trinity not only live on but they are now in control of the new Matrix. I wasn't shocked Neo's powers were weak in this film. He clearly was suppressed for a long time. There was also commentary on addiction, reality and yes relationships etc. Love the last scene where he couldn't fly and Trinity could. By having a Matrix Marathon it really showed how much Neo and Trinity relationship was a very important part of the story.

Not to be too hyperbolic since it just came out but my initial feelings is that I did enjoy this more than what they did with the "Star Wars Sequel Trilogy", "Indy and the Crystal Skulls", "Blade Runner 2049" and even "Terminator Dark Fate" as far as bringing back Legendary characters after a long hiatus. I felt they had a better landing than those films. I also liked it as a Sci-Fi Part 4 better than "Phantom Menace", "Alien Resurrection", "Terminator: Salvation" or "The Predator". As soon as I was done watching I knew it was going to be polarizing and that's good. Matrix films are very layered and hit people differently. That's not a bad thing to me and shows how much depth the series has. As for the box office, Worldwide it pulled in about 70 Million but Domestically was definitely hurt by a mixture of Holiday season, Cases rising from the virus and Millions watching it at Home on HBO Max. Early reports are over 3 Million watched it this weekend at Home and it was the most pirated film as well. Other films including Spidey took some hits too. I expect theaters to struggle as we go into 2022. Overall I know it's early but I feel it's on par with "Reloaded" .but not better. Because it picks up after "Revolutions" so well I think it fits nicely after watching that film. I think this film made "Revolutions" even better because we know what happens after now. The Movie actually also works as an Epilogue to the Original Trilogy. Please do a Matrix Marathon if you haven't, made the film even better watching the others recently. Clearly one of the Greatest Sci-Fi Franchises Ever.
Thank you :blessed: I guess it's not for everyone but those of us who were able to enjoy it thoroughly did
 

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The biggest reason this franchise never hit the highs of the first movie is because the first movie is all about building myth and legend and all the sequels are about deconstructing the importance of everything first movie championed.





The first movie is the journey to those two moments.

The sequels actively tell us those two moments don't mean shyt because it's happened 7 times prior and becoming The One isn't really breaking free it's just the next step in an already predetermined set of steps. A few early reviews said this is The Last Jedi of the Matrix franchise but that's not true. Reloaded was The Last Jedi. That was the movie that deaded the legend and removed myth from the franchise. Revolutions and Resurrections is where you end up when you continue making stories after deading the mythology.

The Matrix is a timeless classic. Matrix Resurrections is just another action movie.


Yeah, the end of the first movie should have probably been the end point of "The One's" story.

Neo basically ascended to digital Godhood, then right back at the beginning of Matrix 2 he's back to running from "upgraded" Agents.

Once you are no longer bound by the rules of the Matrix, nothing in the Matrix should have been able to touch Neo at all.
 

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Yeah, the end of the first movie should have probably been the end point of "The One's" story.

Neo basically ascended to digital Godhood, then right back at the beginning of Matrix 2 he's back to running from "upgraded" Agents.

Once you are no longer bound by the rules of the Matrix, nothing in the Matrix should have been able to touch Neo at all.

This is why they would have been better off making prequels, but im sure WB didn't want that

I liked reloaded but you can't top the first ones arc..... Continuing the story made no sense
 

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This is why they would have been better off making prequels, but im sure WB didn't want that

I liked reloaded but you can't top the first ones arc..... Continuing the story made no sense

Right, I was going to say they should have continued doing what they were doing with The Animatrix.

The problem was, because of the Star Wars Prequels, I think prequels in general were out of favor back then.
 

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Its borderline trolling though, that Gremlins analogy is apt. Resurrections felt like a parody for the first half, unlike Gremlins 2 which committed to it the entire film. This film did all that meta analysis, criticism of corporate Hollywood only to fall right into generic scifi nonsense. Keep in mind G2 is another sequel that WB wanted made, despite the director's protest, until they WB threw enough money at them.

Its like the Lana was apologizing beforehand. She clearly didn't want to make this film. Who was this film for, WB?
Why is everyone saying this? Every director/producer wants to make another film no matter what. These W brothers/sisters aren't that good anyways and they're the 'M. Knight Shyamalan' of science fiction imo. I actually believe they stole ideals and concepts for the first Matrix. If they got the greenlight and budget to make something else instead of Matrix Resurrections then that more than likely would've been wack too. :hhh:
 

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Anyone in here explain yet what is the matrix “video game” they kept referring to? :patrice:


What is the Matrix video game in the movie? How did people play it for example
Its a poorly written plot, tacked on at the last minute. It doesn’t make sense when you thonk about...

NPH talked about using "bullet time" against Neo...bullet time was never referenced in the Trilogy, only by the IRL directors. All Neo did was "move like they (the agents) do" according to Trinity. This would make sense if the Trilogy was video game in this film universe but the film tells us from the beginning that the Matrix is real. There never was a game. So why is a fictional character meta-referencing a real world film technique that doesn't necessarily have a frame of reference within said universe....:manny:You could easily solve this by saying the trilogy was a film series and Neo is an actor but the check clears either way:umad:
 

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We're supposed to believe the clips from Matrix 1 that we saw in the opening scenes were made inside the "Matrix" video game that Tom Anderson created inside the new Matrix

A totally photorealistic VR game that just happened to look exactly like the first movie (with the same camera angles and everything) except with Hugo Weaving replaced by a virtual copy of Morpheus (that for some reason doesn't look like Larry Fishburn even though everyone else is the same)

Even though the new Matrix looks like "our" world, with our level of technology, apparently inside the Matrix video games reached perfect simulation level.

But, yeah, if you think about that part too hard it kind of falls apart. For example, if the "game" is not totally "on rails", then how could it ever play out EXACTLY like the first movie? That would only work if we were looking at a "cut scene", but we know it's not a cut scene because the Morpheus character was meant to be able to grow and evolve.

(Which would be impossible if the game were just totally on rails)
I don’t think that was the Game we was seeing.

Cause neither of them looked like neo and trin that we knew of. They looked old but saw themselves as they old self

also when the new Morpheus was given the red pill that wasn’t the matrix game either. It was another program neo had that wasn’t in the game.

he set it up to help them find him.
 

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We're supposed to believe the clips from Matrix 1 that we saw in the opening scenes were made inside the "Matrix" video game that Tom Anderson created inside the new Matrix

A totally photorealistic VR game that just happened to look exactly like the first movie (with the same camera angles and everything) except with Hugo Weaving replaced by a virtual copy of Morpheus (that for some reason doesn't look like Larry Fishburn even though everyone else is the same)

Even though the new Matrix looks like "our" world, with our level of technology, apparently inside the Matrix video games reached perfect simulation level.

But, yeah, if you think about that part too hard it kind of falls apart. For example, if the "game" is not totally "on rails", then how could it ever play out EXACTLY like the first movie? That would only work if we were looking at a "cut scene", but we know it's not a cut scene because the Morpheus character was meant to be able to grow and evolve.

(Which would be impossible if the game were just totally on rails)

The "Morpheus" character wasn't part of the game. The game was created by the Matrix itself as an explanation for why Neo remembered these events. How the game functions isn't important because it was only meant to be a means of controlling Neo.

"Morpheus" was a character that Neo created as part of a loop based on the first scene of the original Matrix. He was created as a way for Neo to wake himself up.
 

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Haven’t read the comments yet, but just finished this. It wasn’t a bad movie at all, but I realized right near the end that I really don’t understand what the stakes really were (outside of the basic nature of what the Matrix is). Movie just seems like it was missing something.

There was no sense of urgency. Nothing, other then people being too self absorbed, seemed like it was a reason for thus movie to be made. I'm going to watch it again, but other then NEO having a midlife crises, what was the movie about? What was the problem? Maybe I was too stoned...

It was basically the same stakes of the first movie. Figure out who you are and save your friends.

In this one he knew who he was but was being kept from being him and save Trinity

In the wake of a machine war, Trinity and Neo were brought back to life to power a new version of the Matrix.

He wanted out.

The stakes were easy to miss. After the war ended and people were being freed and the lack of power led to a machine civil war. In the wake of that the Matrix was rebuilt and people aren't being freed anymore. Niobi wants to keep the status quo because it's peaceful but Bugs wants to free Neo and Trinity to disrupt the system in order to give more people the opportunity to wake up from the Matrix.
 

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Its a poorly written plot, tacked on at the last minute. It doesn’t make sense when you thonk about...

NPH talked about using "bullet time" against Neo...bullet time was never referenced in the Trilogy, only by the IRL directors. All Neo did was "move like they (the agents) do" according to Trinity. This would make sense if the Trilogy was video game in this film universe but the film tells us from the beginning that the Matrix is real. There never was a game. So why is a fictional character meta-referencing a real world film technique that doesn't necessarily have a frame of reference within said universe....:manny:You could easily solve this by saying the trilogy was a film series and Neo is an actor but the check clears either way:umad:
You couldn’t make it a film. The point was to drive Neo crazy with confusion.

The entire language of the OG trilogy is based on the internet/game terminology and rules. Switching to a film wouldn’t completely give it way cause it has different terminology and rules.

The whole point of the opening scene of the Matrix was to get to a phone cause landlines was the thing for internet access back in 1999. Not for film.

And the game was real(how much of the original trilogy it was I don’t know) but we did see a Trinity toy on his desk.
 
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