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I’m disappointed in holden as well

he saw this bytch literally shoot fred johnson in the back

but he thinks it fine to fly the ship she spent 18 hours working on :francis:





in his defense, he has an unhealthy obsession with preventing the protomolecule from getting out into the universe. So when it got took, that's all he was thinking about, was going to get it back so that he could destroy it.
 

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in his defense, he has an unhealthy obsession with preventing the protomolecule from getting out into the universe. So when it got took, that's all he was thinking about, was going to get it back so that he could destroy it.

fair enough…I wanna know how the hell they knew that shyt was under dude bed tho :mjlol:
 

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I really like how they’ve handled clarissa’s character in hindsight…I didn’t/don’t like when they bring in the random family member we’ve never seen/heard of who’s out for revenge when an important character we’ve spent time with is killed/apprehended…but I like that they’ve continued her story and even attempted to humanize her beyond being just a plot device
 
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I really like how they’ve handled clarissa’s character in hindsight…I didn’t/don’t like when they bring in the random family member we’ve never seen/heard of who’s out for revenge when an important character we’ve spent time with is killed/apprehended…but I like that they’ve continued her story and even attempted to humanize her beyond being just a plot device



Yeah I hated her at first too but she really grows on you. Her character development is A1. Which episode you on?
 

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Just like Jon Snow :mjgrin:
nah jon could actually scrap and held himself accountable for the most part

in season 4 *alone*, holden puts the president on ignore, lets his belter gf's new homies commit warcrimes then covers it up, fires missiles at an alien structure he sees for like 2 minutes, gets everybody marooned, loses the debate with moultry because he can't deal with Facts and Logic™ and has to resort to violence, and reinforces propaganda across the universe.

jon snow only got half that reckless after he died :dead:
 
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nah jon could actually scrap and held himself accountable for the most part

in season 4 *alone*, holden puts the president on ignore, lets his belter gf's new homies commit warcrimes then covers it up, fires missiles at an alien structure he sees for like 2 minutes, gets everybody marooned, loses the debate with moultry because he can't deal with Facts and Logic™ and has to resort to violence, and reinforces propaganda across the universe.

jon snow only got half that reckless after he died :dead:




:dahell:

Like Jon Snow didn't sleep with the enemy, and break his vow. He got people killed with his foolery. He took a whole nation of wildlings who had committed crimes against the Night's Watch south. He got most of the Night's Watch killed during this effort. These other incidents happened after he came back but no excuse. This dumbass nicca goes to war knowing good and well he aint got the numbers to win and gets most of the wildlings he "saved" killed anyway. This nicca got @Won Won killed. :dahell:


Then he hatches a dumbass plan to go beyond the wall to grab one undead soldier, gets Thoros of Myr killed, thereby ending Beric Dondarion life.

Then this nikka gets a whole dragon killed cause he wants to show off in front of his new girlfriend, and prove that he can "scrap" as you say.

Then he gets Dany's entire army murked, turning her mad. Then he kills HER.

This nikka Jon is a whole menace :dahell:
 

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:dahell:

Like Jon Snow didn't sleep with the enemy, and break his vow. He got people killed with his foolery. He took a whole nation of wildlings who had committed crimes against the Night's Watch south. He got most of the Night's Watch killed during this effort. These other incidents happened after he came back but no excuse. This dumbass nicca goes to war knowing good and well he aint got the numbers to win and gets most of the wildlings he "saved" killed anyway. This nicca got @Won Won killed. :dahell:


Then he hatches a dumbass plan to go beyond the wall to grab one undead soldier, gets Thoros of Myr killed, thereby ending Beric Dondarion life.

Then this nikka gets a whole dragon killed cause he wants to show off in front of his new girlfriend, and prove that he can "scrap" as you say.

Then he gets Dany's entire army murked, turning her mad. Then he kills HER.

This nikka Jon is a whole menace :dahell:
Holden literally could've went home and minded his own business at any point though. None of this was his fight :mjlol:
 
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Holden literally could've went home and minded his own business at any point though. None of this was his fight :mjlol:



He was the only one that knew what the protomolecule was. :dahell:

If at any point, Holden steps out of the fight, the universe implodes. He's responsible for exposing the protomolecule and what it's capable of. He's responsible for stopping the war between earth and Mars. For stopping the protomolecule soldiers from getting out.

Let go of this unhealthy hatred, breh :dahell:
 

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He was the only one that knew what the protomolecule was. :dahell:

If at any point, Holden steps out of the fight, the universe implodes. He's responsible for exposing the protomolecule and what it's capable of. He's responsible for stopping the war between earth and Mars. For stopping the protomolecule soldiers from getting out.

Let go of this unhealthy hatred, breh :dahell:
He wouldn't even know about the protomolecule if he wasn't trying to go into business for himself after the Cant and the stealth tech :mjlol: which he also didn't help lol.

shyt, if he didn't get wrapped up with Miller then those scientists don't get aired out either. you can make a legit argument that holden made the universe worse every step of the way
 

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:dahell:

Like Jon Snow didn't sleep with the enemy, and break his vow. He got people killed with his foolery. He took a whole nation of wildlings who had committed crimes against the Night's Watch south. He got most of the Night's Watch killed during this effort. These other incidents happened after he came back but no excuse. This dumbass nicca goes to war knowing good and well he aint got the numbers to win and gets most of the wildlings he "saved" killed anyway. This nicca got @Won Won killed. :dahell:


Then he hatches a dumbass plan to go beyond the wall to grab one undead soldier, gets Thoros of Myr killed, thereby ending Beric Dondarion life.

Then this nikka gets a whole dragon killed cause he wants to show off in front of his new girlfriend, and prove that he can "scrap" as you say.

Then he gets Dany's entire army murked, turning her mad. Then he kills HER.

This nikka Jon is a whole menace :dahell:

:gucci:
 
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