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[CodeBlaMeVi]

Think about it

99% of the movies he gets praised for are mob movies are they not


We've seen nolan do war movies "dunkirk"

Super hero movies " the dark knight"

Scifi movies with mind bending concepts like
"Inception"

Scifi outter space movies like "interstellar"


All very different but all great



Even Martin's movies like king of comedy are all done in the same vein as his other movies. If you've seen one you've seen them all.
Like wolf of wall street is a non mob version of casino.

Nolan has far more range

Outside of Insomnia, Nolan has wrote or co-wrote all his joints. Writing a film is a tedious process especially with Nolan’s concepts.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

That's in all likely not on purpose tbh. Nolan's movies traditionally do a terrible job of consistency between cuts/direction of movement in chase scenes. He crosses up directions and order all the time. shyt moves from left to right casually amd at ramdp,. He just goes with what cut looks best. The Batman chase scenes are notorious for this. It'd be an incredible accomplishment if he not only suddenly fixed this weakness in his game and then applied it as a plot point suddenly

It’s specifically one in the beginning of inception where Dom tosses the roll of money to the left of the screen and the Asian kid catches it to the right of the screen. The Japanese boss wakes up and the Asian kid is to the left of the screen now.

 

[Neuromancer]

How great can he be when he ONLY makes one type of movie....Italian mob movies

Amended. All of his movies have the same tone

Then again. So do Nolan's.

 

[Scottie Drippin]

It’s specifically one in the beginning of inception where Dom tosses the roll of money to the left of the screen and the Asian kid catches it to the right of the screen. The Japanese boss wakes up and the Asian kid is to the left of the screen now.

Yeah he's horrible with this.

 

[ultraflexed]

Aviator, Taxi Driver, and Raging Bull get more praise than most of his catalog not named Goodfellas. So nah the 99 percent thing doesn't add up. In fact, Goodfellas is the one mob movie in his catalog that gets a lot of praise outside of the other ones. That doesn't add up.

I wouldn't say Nolan has more range; Nolan is interested in telling different stories. Scorsese is really interested in inner conflict so most of his stories are grounded on earth and deal with that inner conflict and contradictions we have as humans. Nolan's movies, even the ones I love, are less about "people" and more about ideas or institutions around those ideas. Or they involve a big hook with very dense plots where the characters just act as chess pieces to move the plot along.

I'm not saying he's not great but like you said they all have similar styles to the movies he does

I think nolan movies are grounded as much as possible for the movies to choses

Batman was very grounded
So was interstellar

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Yeah he's horrible with this.

He needs a better script supervisor. That’s who job it is to make sure continuity is maintained in every take. It’s an easy thing to lose focus of. I’ve had issues with that and the editor and director are at the mercy of taking the best take.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I'm not saying he's not great but like you said they all have similar styles to the movies he doesnt

I think nolan movies are grounded as much as possible for the movies to choses

Batman was very grounded
So was interstellar

I don't mean grounded like that. I mean grounded as in they take place on earth purely on earth and aren't Scifi. He's not interested in making a sci-fi movie so he shouldn't do that and that doesn't mean Nolan has more "range" than him. Nolan isn't doing Kundun or Silence just like Scorsese isn't doing Interstellar or Inception

 

[MartyMcFly]

Yeah he's horrible with this.

I don't think that's an accident tho. Since we're taking Scorsese a bit, he also doesn't care about continuity and it doesn't matter for his movies because everything else about the movie is done so dopely, you only notice that shyt if you're really looking for it. Being caught up in the narrative and the acting and whatever else means paying less attention to continuity. Scorsese makes a bet audiences don't care about that kinda stuff. Do members of the audience are? Sure. But the audience as a whole? They only care if everything else sucks and they have no choice but to notice the flaws. But its like any good magician: if you're doing the trick right, no one notices the strings on first glance

 

[hex]

Prologue reminds me of The Dark Knight Rises opening

That movie turned out to be super trash.

Fred.

 

[MartyMcFly]

That movie turned out to be super trash.

Fred.

Let's hope its not the same portend

 

[ultraflexed]

I don't mean grounded like that. I mean grounded as in they take place on earth purely on earth and aren't Scifi. He's not interested in making a sci-fi movie so he shouldn't do that and that doesn't mean Nolan has more "range" than him. Nolan isn't doing Kundun or Silence just like Scorsese isn't doing Interstellar or Inception

Here the difference
Martin is a traditional quarterback
6'4 235, huge arm, very accurate and can move in the pocket

Nolan is 6'3 225, great arm can pass in and outside the pocket, and run for first downs. Throw on the run as well
Nolan can do more with greatness

 

[Scottie Drippin]

I don't think that's an accident tho. Since we're taking Scorsese a bit, he also doesn't care about continuity and it doesn't matter for his movies because everything else about the movie is done so dopely, you only notice that shyt if you're really looking for it. Being caught up in the narrative and the acting and whatever else means paying less attention to continuity. Scorsese makes a bet audiences don't care about that kinda stuff. Do members of the audience are? Sure. But the audience as a whole? They only care if everything else sucks and they have no choice but to notice the flaws. But its like any good magician: if you're doing the trick right, no one notices the strings on first glance

Bruh yes it's an accident c'mon now To bring up Scorcese, too, whose idol is Kurosawa who almost couldn't be more precise with meaningful cuts, blocking, and being deliberate and meaningful (he is NOWHERE near as bad as Nolan though. Things travel in different directions between his cuts it's really bad). No one would do this on purpose if they could avoid it. Of course they say fukk it throw it in anyway because the audience will excuse it.

And now you have people confused by the nonsensical editing and blocking of a scene and thinking it might be relevant to the plot? Probably a good time to bring it up.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Here the difference
Martin is a traditional quarterback
6'4 235, huge arm, very accurate and can move in the pocket

Nolan is 6'3 225, great arm can pass in and outside the pocket, and run for first downs. Throw on the run as well
Nolan can do more with greatness

That's not apt at all. The type of QB you are is based on ability not simply choice. Scorsese chooses to tell stories in the genres he tells them in because stories about human beings on earth interest him more. Tom Brady is a very different QB than Aaron Rodgers because Aaron can move in and out the pocket like you referenced. But Aaron is blessed with physical gifts Tom just isn't. Tom doesn't "choose" to be the kind of QB he is; he just is that because he has no choice. Scorsese and Nolan choose to tell their stories in these specific genres

 

[MartyMcFly]

Bruh yes it's an accident c'mon now To bring up Scorcese, too, whose idol is Kurosawa who almost couldn't be more precise with meaningful cuts, blocking, and being deliberate and meaningful (he is NOWHERE near as bad as Nolan though. Things travel in different directions between his cuts it's really bad). No one would do this on purpose if they could avoid it. Of course they say fukk it throw it in anyway because the audience will excuse it.

And now you have people confused by the nonsensical editing and blocking of a scene and thinking it might be relevant to the plot? Probably a good time to bring it up.

I don't think its accidental though lol. I'm just saying, Scorsese has heard the complaint enough and has said he doesn't care. For someone as precise as Nolan is, I think he also just doesn't care. So if it gets left in the final edit, whatever, he's good with that.

 

[Scottie Drippin]

I don't think its accidental though lol. I'm just saying, Scorsese has heard the complaint enough and has said he doesn't care. For someone as precise as Nolan is, I think he also just doesn't care. So if it gets left in the final edit, whatever, he's good with that.

Not caring =/= on purpose. He is not intentionally fukking up blocking and direction of motion between edits. They film things a bunch of ways and he goes with whatever he thinks looks best/had the actors best take. If it's consistent, perfect, if not, then it's not gonna stop him from keeping it in if it does everything else right.