Franklin brought it up to Jerome in the restaurant
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Franklin brought it up to Jerome in the restaurant
Cissy bought it up when they had s fight. Is there a reason you wanted it bought up more?
That’s a lot of trauma to his psyche. Not to mention all the trauma from previous episodes. All that shyt adds up.He's start drinking right after Sissy killed Teddy.
He still had Leon and Veronique in his corner.
He had already disowned his mother.
He still had building assets available.
He still had a KGB agent tied up who he was using as a trade chip 5 minutes earlier.
Y'all talk like Franklin had no options.
The character actually had less options at the end of the previous season.
People, no matter how string can snap after that much trauma. Why do you think so many soldiers come back fukked up?
I don't get it Leon
Franklin: sexy chocolate mf like me
can't keep a bytch 
It's funny people keep getting upset that he, a straight edge nikka about business, turned to alcohol so suddenly.
People saying there's no way Franklin would've gone out bad so stupidly/quickly when the bolded is the exact reason why.
In the last few episodes it's hard to remember that Franklin is very intelligent. There's a reason (besides the addiction to making the impossible possible) Franklin is so incensed about getting the $73+ mill. Franklin's mind was probably playing the following thoughts on repeat:
1. He killed/lost too many important people to not get that money (Kevin, Rob, Uncle Jerome, Mel, etc...)
2. He burnt too many important bridges (Cane's people, Leon, relationship with Skully heavily reliant on the point 3 below).
3. The fact that his only plug (Teddy) was the one that robbed him made it impossible for him to get a plug of the same caliber ever again: with low prices, not mentally unstable (at least not until the last convo they had), teflon and able to influence the law. Able to front him drugs on credit.
4. He can't just make the money back because: Avi, a crucial piece in the weapons and information department, dead.
5. He can't just make the money back because: Oso, another crucial piece, gone.
6. He got a baby on the way, and a Lady he made a promise too (that nikka knew Veronique was a pragmatic woman, she was gonna leave him either way).
Over and over this is going through his head and the only two conclusions he comes too are:
a) Ain't no way he's ever gonna be able to build wealth like he did. There's a fairly higher chance he dies FAST instead.
b) Therefore he needs to get those $73+ million or his life is out of his control and essentially over. There's no other way he's gonna make it to those millions if he's honest with himself. All the breaks he got when he started ain't gonna be there no more.
So once Cissy kills Teddy...with all of this going on in his head. It must've really felt to him like his momma really killed him. Cissy ain't in his head, so she can't see the pressure he's under to get out with at least something.
TL;DR: Depending on the amount of pressure you're facing, sometimes alcohol is enough to ruin the shyt out your life. Franklin couldn't even go back to hustling in L.A. no more, the sharks that saw the worst of him would've eaten him alive after seeing blood on the water. He was fukked.
Great breakdown,and I think this is the most important thing you said.
"Therefore he needs to get those $73+ million or his life is out of his control and essentially over. "
Control,and needing to have control of his environment is a major weakness for Franklin. I dont know about the first part of what you said,because I think he is somewhat delusional. I think he truly believes his intelligence alone is what took him and his family to where they are.
But he stumbled upon Avi and them bricks. Was lucky enough his auntee knew who he could sell his first brick too. Got robbed,but luckily and Carvell helped him get the money back. Was lucky Kevin told him about his cousin in Oakland. Was lucky Reed was able to get him out of jail for killing Kevin. But as big as his ego became,I really dont know if he looks at it like he was "lucky" at all.
I usually just try to look at Teddy when your trying to figure out Franklins reasoning. Because the show uses them as a mirror of each other alot. I think he wants the 72 mil,for the same reason Teddy took it. Hes upset he had something taken from him,and he was helpless to it(loss of control). And because he feels like it was HIS OPERATION,his mission,and it was him who allowed everyone to eat and make money,and plus its simply his money.
He lost the ability to control his own destiny without that money. Lost the ability to control his family and the streets when he lost the plug. I dont think he was ever going to hand the plug over to Louie btw lol. Im almost certain he would rather nobody have the plug. Plus he was upset when Louie and Jerome didnt want to do his real estate venture(control). Lost control over Alton,then his mama. Then Veronique out here making decisions without his permission(control).
The man needed full control of his environment. And he really only managed to build the empire within a controlled environment. An environment created by the cia plug,and street connections he didnt actually have himself. He was fresh off the porch,and wouldve been food early on,if he woulda had to actually operate in a real jungle. Rather than the simulated zoo environment the plug created for him
.I think by the end,you just see what happens when he loses control over the players(family). Control over his own destiny(the money),and control over the environment(the plug). Once things turn into a jungle out of his control. And he has no cia to help him. No family support system to guide him. You see hes really not mentally fit for this on his own.
When a control freak loses control,losing their mind can soon follow. Franklin built for the zoo,not the jungle. Cant say he maybe didnt know this about himself though. He seemed content transitioning to a controlled environment of real estate. And I think he was perfectly content and happy to leave the streets
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Cave Savage
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Maybe,definitely agree the first seasons were greater and had more complexity. But even then,I never saw signs they were trying to make Franklin unlikeable to the viewer. If they were trying they definitely didnt do enough. He never killed off some beloved character,he killed Kevin
They couldve taken a daring step and had him kill off Leon,or Wanda,maybe even Mel. But they leaned pretty strongly into making him the likeable protaganist. I thought the attempt to villianize him at the last minute was actually different and somewhat daring. Although you think they negated all that by using alchohol. I dont think most people blame alchohol for his actions. Your more likely to see people blame Louie,Cissy and Teddy. And those people were never going to not like Franklin.
I thought they made him progressively more unlikeable after season 1
If they did it was half heartedly. I dont think I started rooting for him to take an L until he put a hit on Louie and Jerome. Which I think was end of Season 3 or 4
. But even then I still liked em,just wanted to see him get his head cracked.Weve just seen way too many protaganist criminals do way worst shyt than Franklin. From The Wire,Sopranos,other street and mafia films.
He never had a moment where he killed Wallace imo. They left it where you could rationalize away his wrong doings. Had us copping pleas for him like we was his mama lol. I think most of us finally admitted he wasnt shyt the same time Cissy did
richaveli83
Veteran
I'm sure he dabbled into crack. I knew enough crackheads growing up to know the mannerisms.
Plus the holes in his shirt, house looking filthy, etc.
You know what hits me about shows like this…If they did it was half heartedly. I dont think I started rooting for him to take an L until he put a hit on Louie and Jerome. Which I think was end of Season 3 or 4
Weve just seen way too many protaganist criminals do way worst shyt than Franklin. From The Wire,Sopranos,other street and mafia films.
He never had a moment where he killed Wallace imo. They left it where you could rationalize away his wrong doings. Had us copping pleas for him like we was his mama lol. I think most of us finally admitted he wasnt shyt the same time Cissy did
Is how green people are.
We love a good crime drama, especially if it’s about us, but it shows me that if you know what you are looking at, at least a tiny bit, you can see why so many people get scammed or hit in the streets or know nothing of what they are talking about.
Like, think about a Frank Saint in real life if you knew him. He’s not u likable but he murdered dudes on your block, his ppl hit kids accidentally (but it’s always accidental), he knocked of teenaged (remember shooting the dudes who f up in his crew), he manipulated and heisted the bookstore from the old people who looked out for him and took him in, he killed his HS girls daddy, and he oh flooded the streets with crack and said he sleeps like a baby.
But he’s a good dude who wasn’t unlikable lmao. This is exactly how we treat our hood “hero’s”
finally watched the finale.
I put it off because I didn't like Cissy shooting Teddy in the penultimate episode.
I'm not exactly sure how I feel about it honestly. It was a great episode, but not exactly the end I wanted either. that might been the best acting I've seen from Damson all series too and that's saying a lot. gonna read the last few pages.
I put it off because I didn't like Cissy shooting Teddy in the penultimate episode.
I'm not exactly sure how I feel about it honestly. It was a great episode, but not exactly the end I wanted either. that might been the best acting I've seen from Damson all series too and that's saying a lot. gonna read the last few pages.
Thats funny
Definitely shows the "They didnt do it to me
" mentality that extends to real life. Folks be with all the bullshyt,respecting people for getting it by any means. In full support of snitches get stiches,minding your business.But soon as your own apartment gets robbed,you out in the streets yelling at the neighbors "So aint nobody seen nothing
!".Soon as a loved one gets killed, your on the news crying "The community needs to stop this no snitching policy,I know somebody saw something
"
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