Official Power Book III: Raising Kanan Season 1 Thread

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Rakim is not modern breh. He was dope for his time and influenced the new school but he has an 80s flow. Stop it. Multi syllable rhyme patterns didn’t become standard until the Mid 90s with rappers like I named (Nas, Jay, Biggie). In 1991, nikkas was just rhyming one word, not flowing the same way and splitting up sentences or making up words so they’d rhyme.

Compare this



To this



Nas is gliding over this beat. Rakim isn’t. Famous sounds like Nas when people back in 1991 would’ve been rapping like Rakim. It’s not accurate.


This is super inaccurate... because Rakim wasn't rapping like 'Follow the Leader' by '96/'97 either.

nikkas were definitely past just rhyming one word with one word before '91... the multi shyt actually started becoming prevalent during Rakim's era.
 

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This is super inaccurate... because Rakim wasn't rapping like 'Follow the Leader' by '96/'97 either.

nikkas were definitely past just rhyming one word with one word before '91... the multi shyt actually started becoming prevalent during Rakim's era.

Why would what Rakim did in 1997 have any relevance to 1991. I’m talking about 1991. There’s no time machines. The show is set then. If think early Rakim sounded like rappers from the late 90s you need your ears cleaned breh.
 

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Why would what Rakim did in 1997 have any relevance to 1991. I’m talking about 1991. There’s no time machines. The show is set then. If think early Rakim sounded like rappers from the late 90s you need your ears cleaned breh.
I Got It Made came out in the late 80s. Flows were advanced by then.
 

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I agree its a little "early" for the year the show is supposed to be.
But, to be fair, we don't really know how much time has passed since the premiere. I think by now they're at least late into 1992. So its not like they're in 1987 sounding like 1994.


OK, this thread kind of sent me through a youtube "rabbit hole" of stuff that I didn't remember...and I'm going to back away from my claim that the lyrics sound like they're from years later than 1991.

This apparently came out in 1991, and its actually almost an exact match to the time and place that this show takes place in:


The beat and Jukebox's singing still sound out of place to me, but the lyrics are not really as far off as I thought they were when I first saw the episode.
 

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Why would what Rakim did in 1997 have any relevance to 1991. I’m talking about 1991. There’s no time machines. The show is set then. If think early Rakim sounded like rappers from the late 90s you need your ears cleaned breh.

So when did I say early Rakim sounded like rappers from the late 90s...

You said "Rakim has an 80s flow" and used a video from the 80s as your example, then compared it to what Nas was doing in '96... but it's not as if Rakim was doing the '88 style his whole career. Rakim was out of the "80s flow" by the mid-90s himself. So I don't really get what you're gettin' at... especially considering that the person you're referring to was one of the main rappers of his era who were capable of adapting to different pockets/flows and didn't rap one way his whole career.

And aside from that point, the thing about the rhyming one word with one word in '91 is off too. There were people still doing that, but it had also gotten well past that by then. That's even more of an inaccuracy than your Rakim statement.
 

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Why would what Rakim did in 1997 have any relevance to 1991. I’m talking about 1991. There’s no time machines. The show is set then. If think early Rakim sounded like rappers from the late 90s you need your ears cleaned breh.
Up and coming rappers don't sound like current rappers they're usually what's coming next so famous should sound like a 1993 rapper..

For example Nas sounded far advanced compared to these other rappers because Nas was a 1994 rapper rapping in 92



1991 flow






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So when did I say early Rakim sounded like rappers from the late 90s...

You said "Rakim has an 80s flow" and used a video from the 80s as your example, then compared it to what Nas was doing in '96... but it's not as if Rakim was doing the '88 style his whole career. Rakim was out of the "80s flow" by the mid-90s himself. So I don't really get what you're gettin' at... especially considering that the person you're referring to was one of the main rappers of his era who were capable of adapting to different pockets/flows and didn't rap one way his whole career.

And aside from that point, the thing about the rhyming one word with one word in '91 is off too. There were people still doing that, but it had also gotten well past that by then. That's even more of an inaccuracy than your Rakim statement.

You taking the argument in circles.

The show is set in 1991.

Famous is a rapper in 1991.

He is not rapping like rappers rapped in 1991.

He’s rapping like rappers who came up AFTER Nas, Biggie and Jay-Z.

Go watch Juice, House Party, Boyz N The Hood and New Jack City and then tell me if “Streets Need a Body” fits in with the era of those movies. I’m done arguing this simple ass sh*t.
 

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You taking the argument in circles.

The show is set in 1991.

Famous is a rapper in 1991.

He is not rapping like rappers rapped in 1991.

He’s rapping like rappers who came up AFTER Nas, Biggie and Jay-Z.

Go watch Juice, House Party, Boyz N The Hood and New Jack City and then tell me if “Streets Need a Body” fits in with the era of those movies. I’m done arguing this simple ass sh*t.

They play songs from back then on the show and they sound nothing like Famous's style
 

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You taking the argument in circles.

The show is set in 1991.

Famous is a rapper in 1991.

He is not rapping like rappers rapped in 1991.

He’s rapping like rappers who came up AFTER Nas, Biggie and Jay-Z.

Go watch Juice, House Party, Boyz N The Hood and New Jack City and then tell me if “Streets Need a Body” fits in with the era of those movies. I’m done arguing this simple ass sh*t.

OK... I actually said the same thing, that it didn't at all sound like anything from '91. Still, this has nothin' to do with that other erroneous shyt you said. You were completely incorrect about that, but you're right about this. Congrats. :manny:
 

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OK... I actually said the same thing, that it didn't at all sound like anything from '91. Still, this has nothin' to do with that other erroneous shyt you said. You were completely incorrect about that, but you're right about this. Congrats. :manny:

No bruh your argument makes no sense. If Famous doesn’t fit on movies like Juice, New Jack City, Boyz N The Hood then that means you wasted pages being hardheaded because that’s an easy way to know he’s out of place. Like I said from the very beginning he sounds like a late 90s artist.
 
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