[Official] Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+. S1: 05/27/22

[voltronblack]

Not according to the Jedi code. Anakin called Mace out on it but Mace let fear cloud him. Mace had a tendency to do that. Look how he handled Jango smh

Anakin did not call out shyt he want Palpatine alive help him gain the power over life and death to save Padmé also he broke the jedi code of letting go of possession and attachments, the Jedi were encouraged and trained to love in terms of compassion. Attachment was the inability to accept change as the fundamental characteristic of life; to accept death as the natural part of life; the inability to let go. Mace did not broke the jedi code or laws by killing jango or trying to kill Palpatine because both these men were enemy s of The Republic which is the jedi duty to protect. hell jango kill several jedi before trying to kill mace and there are no such laws or codes saiding that a jedi cant defend themself when they are in clear danger of getting kill.

 

[David_TheMan]

Anakin did not call out shyt he want Palpatine alive help him gain the power over life and death to save Padmé also he broke the jedi code of letting go of possession and attachments, the Jedi were encouraged and trained to love in terms of compassion. Attachment was the inability to accept change as the fundamental characteristic of life; to accept death as the natural part of life; the inability to let go. Mace did not broke the jedi code or laws by killing jango or trying to kill Palpatine because both these men were enemy s of The Republic which is the jedi duty to protect. hell jango kill several jedi before trying to kill mace and there are no such laws or codes saiding that a jedi cant defend themself when they are in clear danger of getting kill.

False.
Anakin reported that palpetine was the aith lord they were looking for to mace in the first place.

If he wanted he could have just been quiet.

Mace had palpetine defeated and diafigured, anakin said its done lets arrest him and end this, mace violated the order's own principles and said we will kill him no trial, and anakin realized then the jedi council was full of shyt

 

[Bryan Danielson]

So last week I was irritated about a kid running away from Grown Men and storm troopers like a top 5 NFL RB.

But not I’m watching Jurassic World 2 and see a young kid out running a fukking dinosaurs

I apologize Kathleen

 

[voltronblack]

False.
Anakin reported that palpetine was the aith lord they were looking for to mace in the first place.

If he wanted he could have just been quiet.

Mace had palpetine defeated and diafigured, anakin said its done lets arrest him and end this, mace violated the order's own principles and said we will kill him no trial, and anakin realized then the jedi council was full of shyt

He was not that defeated seeing how he had more than enough power to kill mace proveing his point that he needed to be kill right than and there.

 

[David_TheMan]

He was not that defeated seeing how he had more than enough power to kill mace proveing his point that he needed to be kill right than and there.

He didnt have more than enough powernto kill mace. You aeem to forget mace was about to kill him until anakin cut off his arm. Its only then with the break that he was able to overwhelm mace with force lightening and cast him into the xity

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

He didnt have more than enough powernto kill mace. You aeem to forget mace was about to kill him until anakin cut off his arm. Its only then with the break that he was able to overwhelm mace with force lightening and cast him into the xity

Exactly

 

[Lord_nikon]

She’s pretty but she gives me dyke vibes

she's a pretty chocolate lady ,,,,,,,,, but she has the bull nose ring so

 

[Lord_nikon]

"fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering."
The quote alone foreshadowed his fall to the dark side.

and


Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not

Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose.





small things like make like the prequel even more,,,, those prequel still had a great story

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

Mace kne

False.
Anakin reported that palpetine was the aith lord they were looking for to mace in the first place.

If he wanted he could have just been quiet.

Mace had palpetine defeated and diafigured, anakin said its done lets arrest him and end this, mace violated the order's own principles and said we will kill him no trial, and anakin realized then the jedi council was full of shyt

So was Anakin wrong when he threw Palpatine down the shaft in Episode VI? I mean he even attacked him from the back.

The Mace/Palpatine fight achieved a few things:

- it shows why Palpatine fears the Jedi so much in the OT, he can get got.
- It was a false parallell to Anakin vs Dooku:

Anakin didn't kill Dooku for any reason other than revenge.

Mace goes for the kill because he realises that if Palpatine lives, the Jedi will lose....and he's 100% right. He also knows Palpatine is PRETENDING to have lost his power, unlike Dooku who literally had his hands cut off.

"Don't listen to him Anakin...He controls the senate"

At this point some of the Jedi also feel Order 66 coming "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi".

Anakin brings up the Jedi code, this isn't to show that Mace was wrong - it's to show that Anakin is. What does he do when Mace tells him Palpatine is too dangerous?

"I need him!"

ANAKIN is the one who doesn't give a shyt about the Jedi code in this scene, and Mace is the one truly doing his job.

"Destroy the Sith, we must"

That moment was all about Anakin, not Mace and Palpatine. Anakin was supposed to help Mace and bring balance to the force, Palpatine would absolutely have fought back ("UNLIMITED POWER") if Anakin didn't step in - and Anakin was then supposed to kill Palpatine by attacking him while he was fighting Mace.....EXACTLY what he does to Palpatine 30 years later.

The Jedi code is about killing the defenseless, Palpatine was anything but and he proves this the moment Anakin steps in. This was Anakin's chance to help the Jedi and bring balance but he fails.

This is important to note - Mace would not have killed Palpatine, Anakin is the chosen one. Palpatine would a 10000% have fought back, or if Mace would not attack he would've a 10000% attacked Mace anyway. If Anakin was there on some Jedi shyt, he was more than free to step in when Palpatine started frying a truly defenseless Mace (proving to Anakin that Palpatine was pretending to have lost his powers). Anakin witnesses Mace telling Palpatine that he will arrest him, he witnesses Palpatine saying "no no no you will DIE" and he still chose to help Palpatine instead of Mace.

He'll do the right thing by murking Palpatine when the same happens to Luke, and he'll help Rey murk Palpatine's clone AGAIN in the same way he was supposed to with Mace.
George Lucas

 

[David_TheMan]

Mace kne


So was Anakin wrong when he threw Palpatine down the shaft in Episode VI? I mean he even attacked him from the back.

The Mace/Palpatine fight achieved a few things:

- it shows why Palpatine fears the Jedi so much in the OT, he can get got.
- It was a false parallell to Anakin vs Dooku:

Anakin didn't kill Dooku for any reason other than revenge.

Mace goes for the kill because he realises that if Palpatine lives, the Jedi will lose....and he's 100% right. He also knows Palpatine is PRETENDING to have lost his power, unlike Dooku who literally had his hands cut off.

"Don't listen to him Anakin...He controls the senate"

At this point some of the Jedi also feel Order 66 coming "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi".

Anakin brings up the Jedi code, this isn't to show that Mace was wrong - it's to show that Anakin is. What does he do when Mace tells him Palpatine is too dangerous?

"I need him!"

ANAKIN is the one who doesn't give a shyt about the Jedi code in this scene, and Mace is the one truly doing his job.

"Destroy the Sith, we must"

That moment was all about Anakin, not Mace and Palpatine. Anakin was supposed to help Mace and bring balance to the force, Palpatine would absolutely have fought back ("UNLIMITED POWER") if Anakin didn't step in - and Anakin was then supposed to kill Palpatine by attacking him while he was fighting Mace.....EXACTLY what he does to Palpatine 30 years later.

The Jedi code is about killing the defenseless, Palpatine was anything but and he proves this the moment Anakin steps in. This was Anakin's chance to help the Jedi and bring balance but he fails.

This is important to note - Mace would not have killed Palpatine, Anakin is the chosen one. Palpatine would a 10000% have fought back, or if Mace would not attack he would've a 10000% attacked Mace anyway. If Anakin was there on some Jedi shyt, he was more than free to step in when Palpatine started frying a truly defenseless Mace (proving to Anakin that Palpatine was pretending to have lost his powers). Anakin witnesses Mace telling Palpatine that he will arrest him, he witnesses Palpatine saying "no no no you will DIE" and he still chose to help Palpatine instead of Mace.

He'll do the right thing by murking Palpatine when the same happens to Luke, and he'll help Rey murk Palpatine's clone AGAIN in the same way he was supposed to with Mace.
George Lucas

1st off don't ever bring in the Disney sequels when discussing star wars.

Now then, Dooku was killed in battle, no issue with that, he was a jedi who converted to the SITH and seemed legit shocked that he was bested in battle by Anakin and then destroyed.

Dark Jedi typically always disliked the regular Jedi, because they worked against them, you narrow down that dark jedi group to the SITH who purposely used small number of Master / Apprentice, they have to be even more weary of Jedi because their numerical disadvantage, nothing special in that sense.

Mace is wrong, he has Palpetine defeated, imho, Palpetine didn't purposely get force electrocuted and disfigured when he didnt even know anakin was in the raid. If you remember Mace beat Palpetine down before Anakin got there, its only when Ankin entered that he started playing up how feeblie he was but he was still beaten.

That said, him being exposed alone would have removed all his influence in the senate, they already had proof he was linked with Grevious and Dooku, and Anakin the hero of the Republic had his word that he was a Sith lord. It was time for Mace to set his pride aside and simply follow the code of the Jedi. When he didn't he lost Anakin. Even Yoda had to admit the jedi and the council had lost their way and this was just the last straw that broke the camel's back IMHO.

Again, Anakin reported Palpetine to Mace as the sith lord for arrest, he was battling between being faithful to the order that rejected him and talked down on him, and the man who was telling him he could help him, listening to his fears and massaging them.

That said, we may just have to agree to disagree on our interpretation.

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

1st off don't ever bring in the Disney sequels when discussing star wars.

Now then, Dooku was killed in battle, no issue with that, he was a jedi who converted to the SITH and seemed legit shocked that he was bested in battle by Anakin and then destroyed.

Dark Jedi typically always disliked the regular Jedi, because they worked against them, you narrow down that dark jedi group to the SITH who purposely used small number of Master / Apprentice, they have to be even more weary of Jedi because their numerical disadvantage, nothing special in that sense.

Mace is wrong, he has Palpetine defeated, imho, Palpetine didn't purposely get force electrocuted and disfigured when he didnt even know anakin was in the raid. If you remember Mace beat Palpetine down before Anakin got there, its only when Ankin entered that he started playing up how feeblie he was but he was still beaten.

That said, him being exposed alone would have removed all his influence in the senate, they already had proof he was linked with Grevious and Dooku, and Anakin the hero of the Republic had his word that he was a Sith lord. It was time for Mace to set his pride aside and simply follow the code of the Jedi. When he didn't he lost Anakin. Even Yoda had to admit the jedi and the council had lost their way and this was just the last straw that broke the camel's back IMHO.

Again, Anakin reported Palpetine to Mace as the sith lord for arrest, he was battling between being faithful to the order that rejected him and talked down on him, and the man who was telling him he could help him, listening to his fears and massaging them.

That said, we may just have to agree to disagree on our interpretation.

I totally agree that Mace legit beat Palpatine, George Lucas specifically came out to confirm that twice.

You have way more faith in the senate than I do. They didn't care for the Jedi and didn't know what a Sith Lord was, to them Dooku and Grievous were the bad guys. I don't think they would support the Jedi at all, plus Palpatine wasn't going to let Mace arrest him anyway and I think Mace knew it.

But ok, at least I can see a worthy opponent in you SW breh, and agree on the sequels I don't know why I threw that shyt in. Mace is my favorite character, othrr than maybe Anakin, so I always need to know people aren't shytting on him for no reason - but you aren't at all so I cam live with our different views on what went down there.

So many people cape for traitorous Anakin by shytting on Mace that I get extra defensive over this scene.

Dap and rep pending.

 

[Brehcepticon]

The Boys waxed Kenobi Stanford Edgar handling business in any universe

 

[Bar Razor]

This is my first post on the Obi Wan series. I want to start by saying I'm a big Star Wars fan - used to read the novels back in the day, comics, played numerous video games, etc. Like most, I disliked the sequels greatly. Prequels were redeemed somewhat by the Clone Wars series but still ultimately a disappointment. Unlike the sequels, I felt there were a lot of good, creative things there ultimately derailed by execution. I WANT to love Star Wars again, and after Mandalorian I was high on "Filoni and Favreau have come to right the ship". Unfortunately, aside from Mando, it's all been mediocre to bad. Obi Wan is just ok. And ok just shouldn't be the case for a legacy character like Obi Wan.

I saw it put once that Star Wars essentially consists of two fandoms - those that care about the lore, canon and story and those that like the "brand" of Star Wars and are not really discerning of anything else. They will accept most anything with the Star Wars aesthetic. I try not to nitpick, and I give a LOT of leeway but Obi Wan just has so many glaring flaws that I just can't. This is taken from elsewhere but really sums up a lot of the issues with the last episode:

Obi-Wan being delirious and incomprehensible because his arm was burned? Did he have a concussion? If they're trying to say he was in shock, that's not what that looks like. Was he drugged?

The base not having shields or cannons or fighter patrols or any means of defense was laughable. One bomb completely destroys that.

Tala getting through security was ridiculous.

Tala and Kenobi having full conversations over their microphones while Kenobi was sneaking and Tala was sitting next to a group of officers was jarring.

The base not having any cameras was insane.

Seeker droids only being able to see directly in front of them was canon breaking.

Obi-Wan not putting on the Stormtrooper armor was a . . . Creative choice.

Obi-Wan clearly being visible to stormtroopers walking down the hallways was sloppy.

Tala beating up an officer like 5 feet away from the coms room and nobody looking up was immersion breaking.

Tala beating up those two stormtroopers was fight choreography that would get laughed at in a fan film.

Reva trying to play good cop after intimidating Leia with a dead body in the previous episode makes me think the writers didn't talk to each other.

Reva not starting off every interrogation with mind reading is inexplicable and she did this twice.

Reva even interrogating Leia in the first place and being confident she knew something when Reva just had her kidnapped 72 hours ago had me scratching my head. What kind of organization would tell a 10 year old they just encountered anything about their organization.

Leia fitting into their torture machine makes me wonder if the Empire regularly tortures children.

Leia not struggling when holding off the Force interrogation like Rey did with Kylo was inconsistent.

Kenobi being able to hold back an ocean and being able to crack that glass after struggling to move a paper weight earlier was inconsistent in-episode.

The entire Tala/Reva conversation was just bizarre. Reva needs to be reading people's minds.

The aforementioned trench coat scene actually surpassed the Leia chase scene as the dumbest scene I've seen this year.

The emperor building an underwater base with glass that cracks after one blaster shot is galaxy brained.

The logistics of those T-47s not running into the wall on their strafing run was ludicrous. So was T-47s going into fukking space when they have a super low ceiling. So was the T-47 floating like a fukking balloon.

Reva deflecting T-47 shots like they're fukking blaster lasers was demonstrative of everything wrong with Disney Star Wars.

The long and pained sadness over Wade who I legit don't think we met killed me.

Reva jacking Vader's tracking idea was dumb.

Vader not killing Reva for Reva allowing Kenobi to escape so that they could find The Path because . . . Kenobi is all that matters, was so illogical it made my brain bleed.

 

[ORDER_66]

The thing I really liked about episode 4 was him holding the window stopping the ocean from blasting in that shyt was dope...

 

[Big Dick]

This is my first post on the Obi Wan series. I want to start by saying I'm a big Star Wars fan - used to read the novels back in the day, comics, played numerous video games, etc. Like most, I disliked the sequels greatly. Prequels were redeemed somewhat by the Clone Wars series but still ultimately a disappointment. Unlike the sequels, I felt there were a lot of good, creative things there ultimately derailed by execution. I WANT to love Star Wars again, and after Mandalorian I was high on "Filoni and Favreau have come to right the ship". Unfortunately, aside from Mando, it's all been mediocre to bad. Obi Wan is just ok. And ok just shouldn't be the case for a legacy character like Obi Wan.

I saw it put once that Star Wars essentially consists of two fandoms - those that care about the lore, canon and story and those that like the "brand" of Star Wars and are not really discerning of anything else. They will accept most anything with the Star Wars aesthetic. I try not to nitpick, and I give a LOT of leeway but Obi Wan just has so many glaring flaws that I just can't. This is taken from elsewhere but really sums up a lot of the issues with the last episode:

You could make posts like that about any of the Star Wars movies though. Their shyt has never been airtight like Better Call Saul or The Wire.

The lore is what makes star wars dope to me but let’s but act like this series is known for tight writing.