[Official] Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+. S1: 05/27/22

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That twirling has a meaning to it breh. Anakin and Obi Wan use two different styles of lightsaber combat but theyve trained their whole lives together. When two swordsman know each others moveset like that theyll stall for time or try to find an unorthodox opening using those sword twirls. Its also a way of being flashy. So they basically were both trying to see where they would leave themselves open but couldn't find that spot for a few seconds hence all the spinning and then finally clashing at the same spot. Its a subtle way of placing emphasis on how well they know each other, like true brothers. Notice how now that Obi Wan doesnt even know who Anakin is anymore as Vader, he couldnt block any of his strikes that well. He changed his form up and its been ten years since they last sparred, with Kenobi not even training in that time frame. The saber fights are well done its the writing thats kinda iffy
Yeah exactly these dudes trained together for years they were looking for an opening
 

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Because to a certain degree everyone has a proclitivity to the force, most living creatures, but its when you access it that you typically are able to be noticed.
Leia never accessed it because she never was trained in it.
Luke intuitively accessed it in his races and living a far harsher life than Leia, like his father.

Vader tortures Leia himslf in A New Hope, he believes his kids are dead.

You non star wars fans say the dumbest shyt

why would he believe this? in episode 3, he was fighting vader and prior to that, he saw that padme was doing just fine. immediately after the fight, she goes into labor and just dies.
 

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why would he believe this? in episode 3, he was fighting vader and prior to that, he saw that padme was doing just fine. immediately after the fight, she goes into labor and just dies.

Are you retarded?
His wife died and he was told she died and the children as well. At her funeral her atomach was stuffed to still appear pregnant

He would have had no idea the kids were born.

Hell it even helped palpetine because after his aurgery and becoming vader he tells him padme is dead and so are the xhildren. Thats when he commita to the datk aide fully , he has nothing left.
 

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Yeah but the way he turned was definitely quick/rushed. George Lucas honestly didn't know what he was doing half of the time.

ROTS was still decent though.
Anakin's turn starts in Phantom Menace and layers get added right up until he turns on Mace, it's all there.

GL knew exactly what he was doing with the prequels (way more than he did when writing the OGs). You can watch the "In the Beginning.." documentary made for Episode I and he pretty much lays out the rest of the trilogy, even to details as telling John Williams that DUEL OF THE FATES will come back for the Anakin/Obi-Wan fight.
 

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Anakin's turn starts in Phantom Menace and layers get added right up until he turns on Mace, it's all there.

GL knew exactly what he was doing with the prequels (way more than he did when writing the OGs).
How did Anakin's turn start in Phantom Menace? :dwillhuh:


Also, there's a reason that the prequels overall have poor reviews.

With the prequels, George Lucas just went with the flow and often made sh!t up. It was a passion project for him.
 

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How did Anakin's turn start in Phantom Menace? :dwillhuh:


Also, there's a reason that the prequels overall have poor reviews.

With the prequels, George Lucas just went with the flow and often made sh!t up. It was a passion project for him.
No, george had 9 movies mapped out from the brginning this is confirmed by early producers atudio execs and his first wife who helped taor the atory down.

They started in the middle. Kathleen had the last 3 movies and ig ored them to do her own tbing. Smh.

That said, the prequels had excellent plot.poor acting from portman and hayden and not enough chatacter building.

The build up to the fall of vader isnt conveyed well because geoege eas too conxerned hitting plot points not making it up, because everytbing fits.
 

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No, george had 9 movies mapped out from the brginning this is confirmed by early producers atudio execs and his first wife who helped taor the atory down.

They started in the middle. Kathleen had the last 3 movies and ig ored them to do her own tbing. Smh.

That said, the prequels had excellent plot.poor acting from portman and hayden and not enough chatacter building.

The build up to the fall of vader isnt conveyed well because geoege eas too conxerned hitting plot points not making it up, because everytbing fits.
Your first sentence isn't true. It's a myth that has been spreads for decades now lol.

Lucas only planned the first film and then wrote the scripts for the others as time passed. However, he constantly changed the plot/storylines. It's obvious that he made things up as he went along. The prequels show that.
 

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How did Anakin's turn start in Phantom Menace? :dwillhuh:


Also, there's a reason that the prequels overall have poor reviews.

With the prequels, George Lucas just went with the flow and often made sh!t up. It was a passion project for him.
Prequels were outlined very well, you kind of described the OG moreso - because he thought he would never get more than one movie he changed Episode IV (then just Star Wars). When he made Empire he thought he would do 9 movies so he gave it a lot of breathing room. He got burned out after and decided to end it all with VI so he quickly turned Leia into Luke's sister and threw in a second Death Star and the Emperor.

Prequels were the opposite, again it's all there if you watch the Episode I docs - which parts of the movies do you feel are random and show that he was making shyt up on the fly?

I don't care about reviews, if I did Nas and Cube etc wouldn't be my GOATS either. On a HipHop board we shouldn't care about reviews. The fact that Disney is pivoting so hard towards the prequels now says way more...

The set ups for Anakin's turn:

- Born into slavery: low self-worth and used to servitude.
- Has to leave his mother behind; his fear for is spoken about by the Masters and he'll never get over that plus the guilt of leaving her. shyt the Jedi flat out reject him for it at first.
- Death of Qui-Gon; QGJ was probably the right Jedi to train Anakin. Obi-Wan was too inexperienced and initially only does it out of his own guilt/promise to his master, he even says so ("I gave Qui-Gon my word").
- He meets Palpatine who will start grooming him from this point on ("we will watch your career with great interest ").

All of this will come back in the next episodes to further his downfall (and in the OG to set up his Return of the Jedi-Anakin).
 

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The set ups for Anakin's turn:

- Born into slavery: low self-worth and used to servitude.
- Has to leave his mother behind; his fear for is spoken about by the Masters and he'll never get over that plus the guilt of leaving her.
- Death of Qui-Gon; QGJ was probably the right Jedi to train Anakin. Obi-Wan was too inexperienced and initially only does it out of his own guilt/promise to his master, he even says so ("I gave Qui-Gon my word").
- He meets Palpatine who will start grooming him from this point on ("we will watch your career with great interest ").

All of this will come back in the next episodes to further his downfall (and in the OG to set up his Return of the Jedi-Anakin).
The prequels were "outlined" and they were still terrible. Bad writing and directing by Lucas. Then, stale acting and mediocre CGI to complete everything lol.

Then again, we're going in circles. We obviously aren't going to agree with each other. So I'll leave it at that :hubie:
 

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The prequels were "outlined" and they were still terrible. Bad writing and directing by Lucas. Then, stale acting and mediocre CGI to complete everything lol.

Then again, we're going in circles. We obviously aren't going to agree with each other. So I'll leave it at that :hubie:
To each his own :manny:
 

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Your first sentence isn't true. It's a myth that has been spreads for decades now lol.

Lucas only planned the first film and then wrote the scripts for the others as time passed. However, he constantly changed the plot/storylines. It's obvious that he made things up as he went along. The prequels show that.
You would be incorrect like most of you kids jumping in to talk with authority of things you know nothing about


Im going to side with Lucas who said this in 1977, and has been consistent that the book of wills was always going to be a huge saga that he had to xut down just to get it made.


If you eatch deleted takes from 1977 you even see them using terms like sith lord vader, that were cut and not formally introduced into film cannon until the prequels, because he always had a plan. 9 movies
 

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You would be incorrect like most of you kids jumping in to talk with authority of things you know nothing about


Im going to side with Lucas who said this in 1977, and has been consistent that the book of wills was always going to be a huge saga that he had to xut down just to get it made.


If you eatch deleted takes from 1977 you even see them using terms like sith lord vader, that were cut and not formally introduced into film cannon until the prequels, because he always had a plan. 9 movies

For the last time, George Lucas made sh!t up as he went along. That's plainly obvious. The original sequel for Star Wars wasn’t Empire Strikes Back, it was Splinter of the Mind’s Eye (source: Star Wars has a lost sequel you've never heard of).

Also, "outlines" aren't scripts. He made up and changed sh!t often. Lucas has an imaginative mind but he's not great at putting them together.

His first wife and other film editors did a lot of the film editing for the OG trilogy. They cut out a lot of nonsense that Lucas wanted to put in the films. However, by the time the prequels came around, he was surrounded by yes men and we saw Lucas's true "imagination" lol. That's why overall, the prequels are terrible.
 

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For the last time, George Lucas made sh!t up as he went along. That's plainly obvious. The original sequel for Star Wars wasn’t Empire Strikes Back, it was Splinter of the Mind’s Eye (source: Star Wars has a lost sequel you've never heard of).

Also, "outlines" aren't scripts. He made up and changed sh!t often. Lucas has an imaginative mind but he's not great at putting them together.

His first wife and other film editors did a lot of the film editing for the OG trilogy. They cut out a lot of nonsense that Lucas wanted to put in the films. However, by the time the prequels came around, he was surrounded by yes men and we saw Lucas's true "imagination" lol. That's why overall, the prequels are terrible.
In the original GRRM outline, Cersi wins
 

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For the last time, George Lucas made sh!t up as he went along. That's plainly obvious. The original sequel for Star Wars wasn’t Empire Strikes Back, it was Splinter of the Mind’s Eye (source: Star Wars has a lost sequel you've never heard of).

Also, "outlines" aren't scripts. He made up and changed sh!t often. Lucas has an imaginative mind but he's not great at putting them together.

His first wife and other film editors did a lot of the film editing for the OG trilogy. They cut out a lot of nonsense that Lucas wanted to put in the films. However, by the time the prequels came around, he was surrounded by yes men and we saw Lucas's true "imagination" lol. That's why overall, the prequels are terrible.
It started out ad a small story in the journal of the whills, he has said this.

His producer at fox says he had a large epic, that had to be cut to make a filmable movie that they didnt expect to actually be auccessful. So the took the middle atory which could be aelf contained if failing and started from there.

So stop it my man, george had a vision and this is documented by 3rd parties and his own word even back in 1977.

I know who his first wife is and she co signs that it was always a larger atory so what point do you think you are making by saying ahe cut out languave that in effects pointa to this all being a larger atory.
 
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