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Rewind
2nd Childhood
I Gave You Power
Small World
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The Setup
The Message (second verse)
Suspect (first verse)
Blaze A 50
The Foulness (Tommy Gun Dun and Money Mike verse)
Drunk By Myself
Amongst Kings
Fetus
Sekou Story
Live Now

And I'm probably forgetting some...

Almost no point of even mentioning storytelling concept tracks from Nas because almost all his songs will have stories interwoven into it, think for example his verse on Still Dreaming, His verse on Music for Life with Hi Tek, Surviving The Times, and countless other tracks it’s almost Asinine to not mention hun as it’s a main part of his style.
 

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Jay just seems to hover over the media industry as some sort of King Maker, which makes everyone not want to even annoy him for fear of their careers. Jay isn't the best lyricist, isn't anywhere near a great story teller. His voice is weak, his catalogue is only above average, and lost the battle to Esco. Yet they treat dude like he's some musical savant. It's hilariously strange.

Anyone with a trained ear would easily understand that Nas is far superior to Jay. It should be common sense, really.

You got dudes (Symba) talking about why Jay is the best and doesn't even mention anything Music or skills related. It's always about money and Beyonce. It's embarrasing. Imagine any other genre of music anointing an artist as the greatest because of their financial status or who they're married to. And in these type of interviews (Symba with Math Hoffa or Yayo on drink champs) notice how there is always someone that mentions Nas (Math, or someone in the audience) and the interviewee (Symba or Yayo) play dumb as if they didn't hear it. They just don't want to bring Nas up and state the obvious, which is that dude is simply and clearly the GOAT.
My thoughts exactly you be bit more extreme on Jay than me:mjlol: . I do understand the frustration tho the dikk ridin is unbearable. That nikka solo catalog post AG is weak IDGAF about "hit" records (that had a lot of help btw:sas2:)
 

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I love it because it has that "fukk U" type vibe :russ:

Nas generally humble on the mic but love it when he kicks his arrogant bars knowing he's the best

Can the king lounge for a second, kick his hooves up?
Grow stubble on the face for once without a smooth cut?
Grow a little gut, can't even enjoy the fruit of my labor
Before they call me Luke and hand me my lightsaber
 

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Rob has told some great stories Life Story I Love you baby being some of his best. Nas could probably go 5 albums deep with story material. It's clear as day what they are trying to do dismiss his catalog like this shyt ain't happen "it's not as good as you remember it". You don't say a nikka that wrote something like the One love 3rd verse I Gave You Power or Rewind (A song fukking backwards that had never been done in Hip Hop) as he just "good". Say you don't know the catalog move on:camby:

CTG a straight up weirdo. We had a Coli breh who traveled to the MSG show that happened to meet him. Said the first thing CTG said after finding out he was in town for the Nas show was "the show ain't sold out" :mjlol: like that's your first thought? shyt was a lie too

For real these radio stations still bitter about Nas putting them on blast for their payola schemes back in 2002. And the NY dudes a bunch of unapologetic Hovengers, they can't give son no love without adding qualifiers. We know how it go
 

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CTG a straight up weirdo. We had a Coli breh who traveled to the MSG show that happened to meet him. Said the first thing CTG said after finding out he was in town for the Nas show was "the show ain't sold out" :mjlol: like that's your first thought? shyt was a lie too

For real these radio stations still bitter about Nas putting them on blast for their payola schemes back in 2002. And the NY dudes a bunch of unapologetic Hovengers, they can't give son no love without adding qualifiers. We know how it go
Need those brunch invites :mjlol: . Honestly for me music is subjective it's not about Nas being #1 on your list. People think Drake, Wayne, Jay, Ye, EM, Nas, Pac, BIG, older heads Ra, KRS, LL, Cube new gen K-Dot, Cole whatever. It's the fact the way these clowns in the media dismiss his catalog like he isn't worth mentioning is bullshyt. That nikka that they dikk ride endlessly you know lost to Nas in the biggest battle in Rap history has dents in his armor just like everybody else. Hasn't made a great solo album in 16 years but he's the unanimous GOAT fukk outta here
 

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Undying Love
One Love
Rewind
2nd Childhood
I Gave You Power
Small World
Shootouts
The Setup
The Message (second verse)
Suspect (first verse)
Blaze A 50
The Foulness (Tommy Gun Dun and Money Mike verse)
Drunk By Myself
Amongst Kings
Fetus
Sekou Story
Live Now

And I'm probably forgetting some...


Hella list..

Imma add these to a storytelling song folder
 

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Nas only gets praise when it comes to them trying to keep some sort of beef or bullshyt brewing. When 21 Savage said his little bullshyt about Nas relevance Charlemagne was one of the main people sounding the alarm proclaiming how blasphemous it was for him to disrespect Nas, but when it comes to an honest to goodness SLAM DUNK conversation clearly in favor of Nas they straight up tossed what is arguably his greatest artistic strength in the bushes.


Look I love Jay-Z. I really do. He’s been permanently entrenched as my number 2 favorite MC for 15 years now. But to even ATTEMPT to list that nikka amongst rap’s greatest storytellers is a DISGRACE to storytelling as an artform within the genre. A complete and utter FRAUDULENT statement. Its all just revolting how blatant this shyt is. Nas is the reason why Lupe Fiasco, J.Cole, and Kendrick Lamar TELL stories in their raps and they’ve all said so. Even Drake said he specifically studied Nas for his STORYTELLING ability.


I think we need to finally admit, as Nas fans, that the man himself might just be a bad person. Thats the ONLY explanation for this bullshyt. Nas makes people’s mother’s cry and he kicks puppies in the street. Thats the only explanation brehs
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Jay just seems to hover over the media industry as some sort of King Maker, which makes everyone not want to even annoy him for fear of their careers. Jay isn't the best lyricist, isn't anywhere near a great story teller. His voice is weak, his catalogue is only above average, and lost the battle to Esco. Yet they treat dude like he's some musical savant. It's hilariously strange.

They all scared of him so they kiss his ass. They don't wanna get "the phonecall"

You wanna know why CTG will never say a bad word about Hov again in a public setting?


Been stories like this for two plus decades. Well known Def Jam and Roc-A-Fella pressed radio stations to stop playing the Stillmatic freestyle back in the day

Whereas Nas and his team don't give these dudes the time of day. And Sony had the clout to press these outlets back in the day, they could have killed a lot of the negative narratives 96-04 but you talking about the home of Michael Jackson and Mariah Carey at the time, they just wasn't invested in hip hop like that to care enough. Whereas Kevin Liles and Lyor Cohen was out there stepping on these media outlets throats for their artists.
 

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to me was a gift and a curse Nas was on Columbia. What was great about it is he had his own lane and somewhat freedom. DIdn't have to be part of the Def Jam/ Universal machine and all the BS that came with it I.e getting black balled . The negative side though was these NY radios were more or less aligned with Def Jam/ Universal artists. Def Jam pushed the shyt out of artists if the buzz was right. Not sure Nas got that level of push at times

that’s why 50 was smart going with Dre and Em. Irv had pull to scew 50 if he signed to a lot of labels. But not so easy when you’re signed to Em/ Dre/ Interscope
 

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Starting to think Nas is a really awful person to these people behind the scenes.


Like dude is pissing in nikkas coffees, impregnating they’re wives and forcing the husbands to sign the birth certificate, tossing newborn babies off speeding boats. Lighting up spliffs in the non-smoking section. Returning Library books months late and not paying the fee.


It baffles the MIND that two supposed Hip Hop heads would really, with a straight face and clear conscience state that Nas isn’t INARGUABLY one of the top 3 best storytellers in rap history.
I think media folks want validation from certain people, or acknowledgement that they "helped" someone make it. Like that person is supposed to spend the rest of their life doing you favors. I heard someone...it might have been Premo, say Nas should have Large Pro on every album since Large Pro put him on. But you'd never hear someone say Jay should have Clark Kent on every album. In fact, Kent has only been on what, two Jay albums? You will never hear some dust rap fan say "Jay need to do another song with Clark Kent" either.

Anthony Saleh has alluded to him having to repair some stuff when it came to concerts and appearances years ago, to get Nas back in some good graces. I get there are some valid criticisms, like with the Kay Slay video thing. And we all know Nas had some issues with radio personalities in the 00s. But I've watched Salaam Remi interviews where he said he went up to the radio station with Nas and made sure shyt was all good. Yet certain people still mad to this day.

They wanted him to fail. They wanted breh to be out here promoting Illmatic 3 or some shyt, produced entirely by Pete Rock. They hate that he's out here shining, buying mansions and shyt.
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Also: Nas being on Columbia instead of Def Jam (in the 90s) is also a major role in this.
 

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Nas's relationship or lack thereof with the media is what it is is because he frustrates them. What's funny is that it is not like he intentionally sets out to frustrate them. The media likes people that are predictable and messy. Nas is neither, so to people who vibe with that messy energy and predictability, someone like Nas frustrates them. He doesn't do drama and he doesn't necessarily do what people anticipate or expect him to do. Therefore, he'snot easily manipulated or pulled into BS.

Nas even have has fans that hold it against him that he never did albums that they felt he owed to them. Because of their entitlement, they resent Nas for making four albums with Hit Boy and not giving them one album with Premo. They resent Nas because Distant Relatives exists, but there's not an album with AZ. They resent Nas for having Salaam Remi helm albums and not getting beats from 9th Wonder.

Then you have people that resent Nas because he doesn't feed into BS. Outside of what he shares in his music, he doesn't spend time talking about his personal life. We don't see Nas on the segmented seven part interviews bad mouthing people he had beef with in the 90's. We don't see Nas talking about rap and R&B women he smashed throughout his career. We don't see Nas being bitter about new rapper. Because of this and what I mentioned above the media will do what they do to bait him and specifically the fan base hoping the outcry is loud enough to get a rise out of him.
 

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Nas not being labeled a great story teller on national airwaves is the last thing I expected honestly. I always thought that would be something that they couldn’t deny but it proves the levels they will go to discredit him. Nas going to drop another dope album this year and piss more people off :ahh:
 
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I think media folks want validation from certain people, or acknowledgement that they "helped" someone make it. Like that person is supposed to spend the rest of their life doing you favors. I heard someone...it might have been Premo, say Nas should have Large Pro on every album since Large Pro put him on. But you'd never hear someone say Jay should have Clark Kent on every album. In fact, Kent has only been on what, two Jay albums? You will never hear some dust rap fan say "Jay need to do another song with Clark Kent" either.

Anthony Saleh has alluded to him having to repair some stuff when it came to concerts and appearances years ago, to get Nas back in some good graces. I get there are some valid criticisms, like with the Kay Slay video thing. And we all know Nas had some issues with radio personalities in the 00s. But I've watched Salaam Remi interviews where he said he went up to the radio station with Nas and made sure shyt was all good. Yet certain people still mad to this day.

They wanted him to fail. They wanted breh to be out here promoting Illmatic 3 or some shyt, produced entirely by Pete Rock. They hate that he's out here shining, buying mansions and shyt.
:manny:

Also: Nas being on Columbia instead of Def Jam (in the 90s) is also a major role in this.


I agree with all of this except the Columbia angle. Nas himself has said that difference between his time at Columbia and his time with Def Jam is that Columbia pretty much let him do whatever the fukk he wanted, including set his own release dates, whereas with Def Jam there was more red tape. He wanted to put out Lost Tapes 2 in 2011 before Def Jam put the kabosh on that.
 
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