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account annoys me always shytting on the fans. Market the album outside of IG/ twitter. There was recent comment on YouTube maybe a week or so ago how they didn't even know Magic came out :francis: . Came to YouTube to listen to Stillmatic just happened to come across Magic:snoop:

I agree marketing can be stronger
 

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account annoys me always shytting on the fans. Market the album outside of IG/ twitter. There was recent comment on YouTube maybe a week or so ago how they didn't even know Magic came out :francis: . Came to YouTube to listen to Stillmatic just happened to come across Magic:snoop:

My brother had no idea it came out either, he didnt know until Nas performed at the Grammys. We are lowkey delusional because we are serious supporters of our favorites and stay on top of everything (pause) and check out The Coli and see their IG posts and all that, we think everyone knows what we do, :laugh: , that's not how things work...especially not for someone who isn't a cover of the tabloids every week, constantly in the headlines media whore. Somebody like Nas gotta get his ass out there and promote. IG aint enough, that's really just babies on there who aint even really up on a Nas like that for the most part, hopefully he realizes this now for the next one.
 

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As others have said getting on lot of these podcasts can do a lot for buzz. They get shared all over social media as short clips. Even mid level rappers getting half a million views and shyt for some of these interviews.

On another note. Was in the most popular streetwear shop in UK called END in London. They mostly play hip hop and all of a sudden Dedicated came on. Was random but cool to hear a new Nas album cut being played in public. Salute to whoever put together the playlist haha
 

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My brother had no idea it came out either, he didnt know until Nas performed at the Grammys. We are lowkey delusional because we are serious supporters of our favorites and stay on top of everything (pause) and check out The Coli and see their IG posts and all that, we think everyone knows what we do, :laugh: , that's not how things work...especially not for someone who isn't a cover of the tabloids every week, constantly in the headlines media whore. Somebody like Nas gotta get his ass out there and promote. IG aint enough, that's really just babies on there who aint even really up on a Nas like that for the most part, hopefully he realizes this now for the next one.
Yea I think the marketing plan has to be broader. Plus I think they need to have hard copies ready to ship the week it drops in particular vinyls.
 

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I bought Magic digitally and the physical both on first day we were able.... I got told last week by Mass Appeal that they were refunding my physical because they ran out of stock.

I'm not sure where this dude fits in Nas team, but it's a weird move to shyt on the fans like this :manny:
 

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Yeah. I find it strange to put the pressure of nas success on the fans like that. Nas is the type of artist that is not in the sales run. Most of his money is made on the investments and touring. Not album sales.
And especially after 30 years of career and him being indépendant, the goal should be to cement the loyal fan base rather than please the masses. They are the ones who comes to the venues and bought the merch. The promo they did is not enough to blame subpar sales on the fans when it comes to nas.they need to be aware of the fans demographics. We are not Bieber or behive fans. We are not going to run Spotify all night to boost the streaming. Nas fans are mostly grown men and women who wants to hear quality music and thats it, they will support but don't have time to be community managers. Nas' team needs to chill a little bit and focus more on deliver the merch and the records on time and not with 6 months delays
 

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I bought Magic digitally and the physical both on first day we were able.... I got told last week by Mass Appeal that they were refunding my physical because they ran out of stock.

I'm not sure where this dude fits in Nas team, but it's a weird move to shyt on the fans like this :manny:

I don't think they directly on the team. O think it's a fan account that got some connections to the camp

Because like you said the complaints make no sense. Nas not moving like someone overly concerned with maximizing sales. Magic dropped with one day notice, no promo run, no physicals or merch available for sale until months after release. KD1 & 2 dropped with one week notice, he did a solid promo run for KD1 but not so much on part two. Choice of singles and videos on KD2 not looking to maximize sales if that was the case he'd have dropped visuals for Nobody, EPMD2 with the Em stimmy and YKTV and pushed those as singles.

The numbers he doing are great for an artist 30 years into his career releasing albums on a true independent label, you just not gonna get the promo and playlist placement it take to move more units than he has without a major label pulling strings and spending money to get your music in front of a wider audience
 
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I was gonna come in here and talk about this lol


I saw this plus, they floated out this tweet saying hypothetically what if KD 3 was just 27 summers/spicy/yktv songs. And I said to them "It would be cool to have those joints but you have to balance it out with the core shyt that got the heads to love KD 2 and Magic." And like others they seem to be stuck on the feeling of streaming/sales but I dont think they're realistic about where Nas is in the game right now. Hes an older artist on his own independent label (Still a cat who gets a lot of industry goodwill mind you. Its not hard for him to get younger artists and legends to rock with him but hes still an independent artist which means he doesnt have a major label thats gonna do the powerwork of keeping him on DSP playlists and promo marketing and getting his name out there)



100% Ive seen in previous years them trying to have streaming parties and Im like "Yo I would love if Nas had that kinda pull but hes not Nicki Minaj and Beyonce. Like they are young people that fukk with Nas Ive seen but his base is still older (27 and above) they aint got time for that shyt and its not like he hung around in the 2010s like Kanye and Eminem reinventing his sound and gaining new CaC teenage fans which is those guys are older artist who stll sell (thank god he didnt I think it would have backfired for him. Hes always had a tricky thing balancing his popularity with his hardcores pleasing both and general rap media).



Im having a conversation with them right now and they seem to be pissed Nas doesnt sell more but Im telling them like just going total young aint the answer (It kinda worked with KD 1 ngl but it wasnt like it make Erica and Jeffery in New Hamphsiere go "Yo I gotta get King's Disease on Vinyl bro!")

I think hes doing a lot of things right so far. Hit Boy and him have found music that appeals to both his older/core base (KD 2 and Magic) and young fans who say "yo this is dope" (KD 1) he just has to put the work to get out there visibility wise (Aint like he promoted KD 2 and Magic he cant be mad at the numbers when it was a surprise drop on christmas with NO physical sales/Merch until 4 months later so throw out that 23k number)

I feel like if he smartly works with popping artists that have a big supporting fanbase that will gravitate to whoever they work with without losing his identity on a song he'll be fine ( It worked with the ASAP guys, Em's not a young but you know that stimilus works.... I think in that respects working with a Kendrick or Cole is long due. Hes got records in the vault with Mac Miller and Tyler the Creator, Frank Ocean. Maybe see whats up with that. I think relinking with Tyler, Anderson Paak would be dope, maybe a Kaytandra and The Internet or Thundercat with Hit Boy running point would be dope.I know he a street dude and Im sure Jungle in his ear about working with some drill guys Id be super super careful with that ).

From a marketing standpoint continue to do promos/interviews in the right places (fukk No Jumper but Budden/Rory and Mal/Rap Radar/Shannon Sharpe/All the Smoke as well as the usual places he did before like Breakfast Club, Ebro). Try and do TV (I know no major label can book him but hes Nas if they ask a Fallon/Colbert they gonna say no? Hell he might finally do SNL since he finally did the Grammys) and time it right not like 3 or 4 months later. Maybe even do some North American Festivals again (Slot in coachcella, lollapolloza and I know this sounds wild maybe Rolling Loud? Yeah I know its the inverse of Rock the Bells but they get some older legacy acts on there like DMX/Busta/Dipset/50....I know Nas isnt considered turned up but if Griselda/Joey Badass/Freddie Gibbs can get on there you cant tell me there aint some stage he can slide on ). Lastly liscene his stuff out. Netflix showed that playing your music on shows everyone watches helps a lot (Peep the jump he got from Ozark or what Kate Bush got from Stranger things) hes already someone who gets played in commercials (How many trailers we seen Made you Look in? Also remember the 2020 NBA Finals playing KD 1?)

All that to me makes more sense to market him and an album than just "Yo lets shoot from 80 feet with this NBA Youngboy collabo". Otherwise dont worry about sales, because its fine right now and just get the merch and vinyl which looks fire in time for the fans:manny:



I know this is all big big Fanager energy but Im just saying to that person:pachaha:


Nas can easily do 60K first week. KD 2 wasn’t far off from that number BUT the caveat is that Nas, sales wise, is an artist that benefits from a traditional roll out. That means 2-3 weeks notice, a single, video, and a promo run similar to what he did for KD1. He went on the Breakfast Club, he did a grouping of 15-20 minute interviews across other media, he promoted pretty heavily across social media. Hit-Boy also did a pretty good job promoting as well. They need a marketing PLAN.
 

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Nas can easily do 60K first week. KD 2 wasn’t far off from that number BUT the caveat is that Nas, sales wise, is an artist that benefits from a traditional roll out. That means 2-3 weeks notice, a single, video, and a promo run similar to what he did for KD1. He went on the Breakfast Club, he did a grouping of 15-20 minute interviews across other media, he promoted pretty heavily across social media. Hit-Boy also did a pretty good job promoting as well. They need a marketing PLAN.
Yea I agree the marketing has to be right and they have to have the physical copies ready to ship. They can probably count on 25,000 30,000 coming from physical sales. After that streams will be the rest and depending on the features he goes with can up the number even more. For example let’s say he had a Drake record as the first single. His fan base is heavy streamers so that would help streams.
 
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