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jensyao

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So you saying that wasn’t Nas on the answering machine skit?:ohhh: I remember Nas smoked the original, Holla Back but for removed on the official
just listen to the skit...it doesn't sound like Nas....this is Nas on an answering machine...you can compare the 2



yeah, steve stoute talked Nas out of collaborating with Kool G Rap and AZ and that's why Nas isn't on the album...Steve uses the same Russell Simmons argument to tell Nas that Kool G doesn't sell records, and neither does AZ...Steve Stoute talks shyt about AZ on drink champs with NORE and NORE didn't really stop Steve from saying his shyt and instead laughed at some of his claims, so that's why AZ still hasn't done a drink champs yet...AZ put Steve's interview on the intro of his mixtape and DJ doo wop chopped it up to only include the hate that Steve gave AZ...Steve may be the reason that AZ has 25 unreleased tracks recorded with Nas but doesn't have a joint album with Nas yet -- they been sitting on this collaboration for like 2 decades...Steve Stoute said that AZ's lyrical ability didn't show up when he's not with Nas when you listen to AZ's discography <<-- umm maybe on the radio singles but AZ had some deep cuts that were amazing



Steve was like Dame Dash at interviewing in 2017...this was Steve's unapologetic, unpolished phase. The same memes that Dame Dash got for his breakfast club interview in 2015 was the same memes Steve got in 2017...Steve and Dame only wanted to manage winning artists and it showed they lacked interviewing skills when addressing the general public about their polarizing sentiments...Steve basically said his inner thoughts to NORE on drink champs in 2017 not expecting that a million people would listen to it. Dame also foolishly did that on the breakfast club in 2015...only in 2020-21 did Dame and Steve get their act together on interviews and actually addressed the public not as mindless drones but actual people who can think for themselves...when you listen to recent Steve and Dame interviews, they actually drop knowledge but it's kinda late given that the public already made their opinions about Dame's and Steve's character flaws from their first interviews that blew up...Steve and Dame basically wrote the same book back in the days too: corporate sponsorships with hip hop culture. Steve wrote about the "Tanning of America" from a positive perspective -- how society is integrating with black culture. Dame wrote about "Culture Vultures" from a negative perspective -- how companies misappropriate and rip off black culture ignorantly for capital gains. Those 2 books talk about the same thing but with different perspectives because those 2 people do basically the same thing when being past business partners with Nas and Jay, respectively



and I also found it really fukking hypocritical that Steve said that he didn't want to manage artists in 2017, but then double backed and started parading around his "united masters" management group on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/c/unitedmasters/videos) with NLE Choppa...like you mean to tell me that AZ has less talent than NLE Choppa? fukk outta here. Steve is trying to educate people nowadays about the music game with his new interviews, even though years ago he said that he was out of the music management business...Money probably dried up or Steve saw the success that Nas had with Saleh. Nowadays, Steve is trying to find new talent to mold into his business venture deals because that's what he's ultimately good at when getting these deals for big name artists like Nas and Jay-Z (the deal basically could be done without a middleman but the middleman gets a cut if he brings both parties to the table) -- Steve is trying to find/mold another big name artist for future deals...Steve is about business and education in his new videos but he stays on some clout chasing shyt if you simply trace his actions without him explaining his actions in hindsight. Both Steve and Dame have the same close-minded flaw: their chauvinistic confidence got them to where they are but that trait also blindsided them from seeing their own imperfections when other people accomplish better deals than they do. Steve adjusts by doublebacking on his previous strong stances making him look like a hypocrite while Dame adjusts by simply dismissing other people's accomplishments and only praising what Dame contributed to
 
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yeah, steve stoute talked Nas out of collaborating with Kool G Rap and AZ and that's why Nas isn't on the album...Steve uses the same Russell Simmons argument to tell Nas that Kool G doesn't sell records, and neither does AZ...

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Makes zero sense to me. It's on G Rap's album so how does it really affect Nas how much its gonna sell. Nas gonna get a paycheck for it either way. Do it cuz the song is great, cuz G Rap is one of the most influential rappers ever and cuz you have great chemistry with him and AZ. Its even crazier cuz Nas already had a verse on the song. How does that work? They hit up G Rap and go "You gotta take Nas off the song"?

I really wish Nas hadn't listened to Stoute on this one. Stoute really was the gift and curse of Nas career IMO. Helped him reach the mainstream so for that he deserves props but he also held him back from doing great things at other times.
 

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Premo himself said that was Nas on the voicemail though. That's why when the last Gangstarr album came out, Nas revisited his role by doing another voicemail message to hype the album.

EDIT: nevermind I misread the post lol, I thought you were saying Nas wasn't on the Gangstarr skit. My bad lol.
 

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Stoute really was the gift and curse of Nas career IMO. Helped him reach the mainstream so for that he deserves props but he also held him back from doing great things at other times.
yeah, this have been said plenty of times, but Steve got the trackmasters to do IWW beats for Nas like The Message, a beat that Nas rejected at first (too lazy to pull up the timestamp from the drink champs video), and now Nas still continues to perform it w/ the original scarface intro
Steve got Nas that Hate Me Now instrumental/sample w/ the hook. Nas had the idea to sample Whodini and trackmasters laced him with the If I Ruled the World beat...Steve A&Red for both IWW and Mary J Blige's Share My World albums...not sure if anybody plays that A&R role for Nas today besides people in his circle.

getting a beat from the trackmasters back in the day was like getting a beat from Justice League today
 
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she was normal for the video but her rant revealed she was batshyt crazy...avoid

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